On Topic-How is this possible?

[phaeton]

i was just listening to something i laid down on my 4track last night- it's a plodding, neo-70's heavy metal guitar riff that i recently came up with. I wish i could share it, because it's pure genius, if i say so myself :p I didn't notice it when i was recording it, but i noticed it just now. Where i hit an inverted Am7 (i think that's what C A D makes) and hold it.... It just sings and sings.... and sounds like it's trying to erupt into [i]feedback[/i]. Like as if i were to hold it another 1 or 1.5 seconds it'd just scream wonderful overdriven sexyness.... When i recorded this last night, I ran my strat through my boss me-30 with minimal fx- some mild eq'ing, a "vintage" distortion patch (albeit cranked), a touch of reverb... [i]directly into the 4-track[/i] I recorded this direct! No amplifier, no monitors, i listened with a set of cans! wtf?!?! How can i get feedback when recording direct? I didn't save the patch i used for this so i can't recreate it. Is it just an audio illusion? Does anyone know how to make this happen on purpose?

[Uh Clem]

maybe there's feedback and compression in the patch chain? who knows - sounds like fun though. [i]"It can't be rock'n'roll if there's no feedback." - David Gilmour[/i]

[Matt.Hepworth]

Were you listening through monitors or 'phones? Monitors can give you feedback.

[Alndln]

I actually got something that sounded like feedback/sustain recording direct with my old Sholz Rockman.I wish they wouldv'e updated that thing.Jeff Beck even used one for an updated "People Get Ready(newer version,not Truth)",sounded great.

[fantasticsound]

I don't know if your ME30 has this, but there have been multi-effect boxes with internal, electronic feedback programmed into some patches to deliberately recreate the sound of amp/guitar feedback. If you were monitoring on speakers, it doesn't matter whether they are in a guitar amp or a recording/playback sound system. They can still create the kind of feedback you describe.

[phaeton]

[b] I don't know if your ME30 has this, but there have been multi-effect boxes with internal, electronic feedback programmed into some patches to deliberately recreate the sound of amp/guitar feedback. If you were monitoring on speakers, it doesn't matter whether they are in a guitar amp or a recording/playback sound system. They can still create the kind of feedback you describe. [/b] Yeah, i know that this type of effect is available in some fx processors, but the me30 doesn't have it. And i also understand that all you need is a speaker to move a significant amount of air to create feedback; be it amp, monitor, or anything that can produce sound loud enough to create empathetic oscillation in the instrument. I had no such thing. Here's the signal path: guitar-->cord-->me30{ dist | eq | reverb | speaker emulator }-->cord-->4-track-->headphones. There was no real bonified air-moving speaker involved, everything was line-level. No compression effect either, not even dbx. I was hitting the tape really hard though, so maybe there was some internal compression in the 4-track that was *simulating* feedback. Like the upper freqs were getting squashed or pushed off the spectrum while the signal strength was peaking the meters, but as the volume trailed off (while holding the chord) the upper freqs were starting to roll back in. However, there's a few other chords i hold onto in that recording for about as long, and they don't seem to do the same thing. What gives? I wish i had noticed this when i was recording, i would have fiddled with it and turned it into an exacting science :thu:

[Gtoledo3]

I've gotten some sounds like feedback from going direct into amp simulators; particularly the sansamp models, and the focusrite tone factory.