Junkstyle Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Do you play the note you want to end with or do you play the note you want to begin with? Or does it entirely depend on the circumstance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Originally posted by Junkstyle: Or does it entirely depend on the circumstance? Yes. Cheers, SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Listen to sax and guitar players for where and how they bend within phrases. Careful use of both up and down bends can give the phrase a delightfully greasy, slinky feel. k. 9 Moog things, 3 Roland things, 2 Hammond things and a computer with stuff on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Are you referring to the micro tonal control switch? It depends on what you want to hear ... and whether you are above or below the equator. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Sven's right. You can bend from a pitch. You can bend to a pitch. You can bend in the beginning, middle or end of a note. You can vibrato before, during or after the bend. You can bend to a pitch and back. Or bend to a pitch and then another pitch. You can turn a bend into a vibrato. You can turn a vibrato into a bend. You can bend within a note, or across notes. You can pre-bend (as the note is beginning) or post-bend (as it's dying away). You can ... Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthizen2 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Originally posted by Tusker: You can vibrato before, during or after the bend.This is the main reason I prefer joysticks to the p-bend/modwheel combo for those kind of phrasings. Kurzweil PC3, Yamaha MOX8, Alesis Ion, Kawai K3M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nightime Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I'm the same way. It seems to me to be a more natural transition from pitch bend to modulation using the stick. Just one fluid motion. Wheels take too much thought, when the fucus should be on performance. "In the beginning, Adam had the blues, 'cause he was lonesome. So God helped him and created woman. Now everybody's got the blues." Willie Dixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 We had a lively discussion about this issue in this thread: http://www.musicplayer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/18/t/010965.html and this one: http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/18/t/010805.html#000000 Wheels got a head-start with the minimoog. Around here, I would guess more people are comfortable with wheels than sticks. That is not to be taken as comment on the age of this forum! Really. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. Nightime: I'm the same way. It seems to me to be a more natural transition from pitch bend to modulation using the stick. Just one fluid motion. Wheels take too much thoughtThis is why I love my Roland A-80 and A-50 controllers... they have both types available. I have found, though, that when I'm in a particularly exuberant mood on stage, using the joystick can sometimes introduce unwanted modulation. (for the record, in the privacy of my own home, I'll take all the modulation I can get... on stage, however, I'm a little more shy. ) the fucus should be on performance. Y'mean one of these? http://www.everbritecleaning.co.uk/images/photos/ficus-benjamina-bushy.jpg Oh, my mistake... that's a ficus. Ahem. Cheers, SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Originally posted by Sven Golly: This is why I love my Roland A-80 and A-50 controllers... they have both types available. Forgive me, but aren't those from the dark ages? Did you buy them when they were new? Jest Kidding. About time manufacturers gave us some choices within a board don't you think? Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hmmm. I thought the question was about bending to a note or from a note. For me it depends on the phrasing. On a practiced solo the notes before and after the pitch bend determine that for me. If it is a freeform solo then I usually bend first to the note, hold there for a few notes and play transposed by one step, then bend back. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nightime Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ya Got Me. Sven. One of these days I'll learn how to type. "In the beginning, Adam had the blues, 'cause he was lonesome. So God helped him and created woman. Now everybody's got the blues." Willie Dixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88keys4me Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 The November issue of Keyboard Mag has a good article on this topic, along with some Jan Hammer charts notated for pitch bend. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bennett Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Funny story, during a choir show back in my high school days the choir director was accompanying a rather large male vocalist for his senior solo. Well he had used the joystick and some tape to transpose the key quite a bit lower. Needless to say the tape failedI cant remember what the song was, but he just kept getting more red and sweaty as he bellered his way through those high notes. He was not a happy camper when he came off stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Originally posted by Mr. Nightime: Ya Got Me. Sven. One of these days I'll learn how to type. Hehehe... sorry, Mr. N... I was in one of my GAS moods... all in good fun (and I got dinged for a typo in another thread, so the karmic balance has been restored ). Cheers, SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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