First additional EXi for the Korg OASYS

[EricG]

The first new (free) EXi for the Korg OASYS is just around the corner. The synth is growing with the new EXi: STR-1 Plucked String Model (Physical Modeling). And now it will also support 2Gb of RAM.

Check it out at Korg's site. http://www.korg.com/OASYS/STR1.html

 

I am so glad I own one of these (OASYS 76) Can't wait to get my hands (and ears) on this new EXi.

[burningbusch]

That was rumored and that's excellent news. I loved the Plucked String on the OASYS PCI board and I'm sure this is based on that. If you work with it you can get some great clavs out of it. When you compare them against a clav sample, you might say the sample sounds more like the real thing, but the plucked string version PLAYS much more like a real clav. It's the same technology that Emagic uses with the excellent EVD6 (Karplus Strong Algorithm).

 

Also, glad to see that it's free, as it should be. I think it would benefit Korg to map out their strategy for EXis. And make a deal like they're free for the first two years, something like that.

 

Busch.

[Dan Phillips]

Originally posted by burningbusch:

I loved the Plucked String on the OASYS PCI board and I'm sure this is based on that.

Thanks - and you're right, the OASYS PCI plucked string was one of the starting points.

 

Originally posted by burningbusch:

It's the same technology that Emagic uses with the excellent EVD6 (Karplus Strong Algorithm).

Karplus-Strong is essentially a special, simplified case of waveguide modeling - completely amazing in that it can be done with a very small amount of computing power, but different from and much more limited than both the OASYS PCI plucked string and the STR-1.

 

I don't know the inner details of the EVD6 or Sculpture. Technically, from what I understand, their algorithms are probably based on another, slightly different design; there are different ways to do physical modeling.

 

Best regards,

 

Dan

[Ken Hughes]

Just spoke with Jerry Kovarsky of Korg, and we'll have STR-1 any minute now. Look for a review really soon.

[Jeebus]

Originally posted by burningbusch:

Also, glad to see that it's free

You are aware, that the Oasys costs $8000?

[burningbusch]

Originally posted by Dan Phillips:

Originally posted by burningbusch:

I loved the Plucked String on the OASYS PCI board and I'm sure this is based on that.

Thanks - and you're right, the OASYS PCI plucked string was one of the starting points.

 

Originally posted by burningbusch:

It's the same technology that Emagic uses with the excellent EVD6 (Karplus Strong Algorithm).

Karplus-Strong is essentially a special, simplified case of waveguide modeling - completely amazing in that it can be done with a very small amount of computing power, but different from and much more limited than both the OASYS PCI plucked string and the STR-1.

 

I don't know the inner details of the EVD6 or Sculpture. Technically, from what I understand, their algorithms are probably based on another, slightly different design; there are different ways to do physical modeling.

 

Best regards,

 

Dan

Thanks for the clarification Dan.

 

Busch.

[Tusker]

I'm looking forward to that review Ken. I have been enjoying the anticipation of wondering what the Oasys team will do with all that synthesis power after covering the bases.

 

Jerry

[Erroll]

Yawn...

 

The Oasys-PCI has over 40 synthesis algorithms, now big brother has....One.

 

So, it only took 8 months to get this far.

 

Hmm...at this rate, in another 27 years, we'll be at the status quo. Now that's progress!

 

Methuselah or Rumpelstiltskin?

[Dan Phillips]

Hi, Paul!

 

Speaking as someone who has been very involved with both products, the OASYS offers much in the way of synthesis that the OASYS PCI does not.

 

This has been discussed before (including discussions with the person who I believe is behind the previous post, and who should know better than to post such misleading comments). In comparison to the OASYS PCI, the OASYS keyboard offers, among many other things:

* Far improved fidelity and complexity for sample playback/synthesis (taking the place of multiple algorithms on the OASYS PCI)

* Far more sophisticated and flexible virtual analog synthesis (also taking the place of multiple algorithms on the OASYS PCI)

* Far more sophisticated and flexible plucked string modeling (the new STR-1 - also a superset of multiple algorithms on the OASYS PCI)

* Wave Sequencing (far improved over the Wavestation; not available at all on OASYS PCI)

* More flexible and more complete organ modeling

* Far, far more voices of polyphony (for instance, 10 times more high-quality analog voices)

* KARMA

 

OASYS PCI did have some algorithms which are not currently available on the OASYS keyboard, including the flute, sax, trumpet/trombone, and vocal physical models, VPM (aka FM), and the electribe-related drum synth. Then again, the first release of OASYS PCI didn't include sample playback at all...

 

- Dan

[EricG]

I have read alot of OASYS threads in different forums around the net. I seriously don't understand why people in "every" forum are giving Korg such hard times. IMHO it is nice to be able to ask questions, critical questions and express personal opinions about the OASYS. (And get replies fromthe people at Korg ). But just throwing shit without having enough knowledge about the OASYS, is just stupid. (And a waste of your, and more important Korg representants time.) Sometimes it seems like it is not about the discusion or asking questions, but just beeing rude.

 

By the way, Keyboard corner is not the worst forum. But like Ken said in another thread, this place will be a much more pleasant place to hang if people try to be a little bit more respectful to eachother. (Good discusion, different opinions and some temprature is great, but.... yeah, you know what I mean).

 

So to Korg, keep up the good work.

[Tusker]

(OT) There are two major factors from my perspective:

 

- One is the intimacy and anonymity of the internet, which is a easy vehicle for expressing resentment and frustration. This seems a new trend, and I'm not sure how well it translates across industries. I don't think it does, axcept for a few relatively small industries, where opinon leadership is fragmented.

 

- Secondly, I think the MI keyboard market is increasing signalling the distinctions between high end pro, mid-pro and low end streams, in a manner that it didn't a few years ago. I may be wrong, but a lot of what I hear is resentment that the best is not available for all of us.

 

It's like finding out that your $200 microsoft word package is still not going to let you do desktop publishing as well as some full featured adobe packages will allow others to do it.

 

I think knowledge products have a unique problem signalling their capabilities, more than other products do and so there is always going to be an information difference. Which is why we have secondary data sources (like Keyboard).

 

From my perspective, a high quality synth is a great thing to have out there even if it's not right for me.

 

Jerry

[steadyb]

Originally posted by Jeebus ®:

You are aware, that the Oasys costs $8000?

Yeah, but that's retail.

 

If you have a good relationship with a salesperson, I bet you could get one for $7950, no problem.

[Synthguy]

I'm hoping that this January sees some significant noise in regard some trickle down of more affordable products. If not, I'm going to save my pennies.

 

The net, unfortunately, is a place which allows small people to make themselves feel 10 feet tall the only way they know how. Frankly after my own hiatus, I don't miss a few of you one bit out of 128. Hopefully Ken will feel better about this place soon, or the knotheads will get washed out with the bilge over to Harmony Central, which is a volcanic environment more suited to their personalities.

[Dave Bryce]

Originally posted by Sir Basil:

Frankly after my own hiatus, I don't miss a few of you one bit out of 128. Hopefully Ken will feel better about this place soon, or the knotheads will get washed out with the bilge over to Harmony Central, which is a volcanic environment more suited to their personalities.

Thanks for providing such a shining example of what a non-"volcanic" post should look like, Basil.

 

dB

[Erroll]

Originally posted by steadyb:

Originally posted by Jeebus ®:

You are aware, that the Oasys costs $8000?

Yeah, but that's retail.

 

If you have a good relationship with a salesperson, I bet you could get one for $7950, no problem.

Can this be true??? Good grief! I must have the worst salesman in the world. He charged me $8500 and I'm still on the waiting list.

 

You seem very knowledgeable about such matters. May I ask you a question?

 

Does it have GOOD Karma, or BAD Karma?

[Martin Hines]

Originally posted by Erroll:

Good grief! I must have the worst salesman in the world. He charged me $8500 and I'm still on the waiting list.

Hello "Erroll/Phineas/White Powder Ma/Paul". It is nice to see you and "Jeebus/Chris100/Delirium/Ramsey/Yeti/Ashley Judd/Cheesuschrist" bouncing OASYS criticisms off one another again, just like the old days! Throw in "Mike51/Montana25/Arvon45" and we could have our own reunion party!!

 

I would think all of these aliases would be confusing!! LOL!

 

Given all of your comments about the OASYS (on all of the forums) I would personally HAVE A HEART ATTACK if you purchased an OASYS.

 

You are SUCH a funny guy !!!

 

Originally posted by Erroll:

Does it have GOOD Karma, or BAD Karma?

Just FYI, if you ARE interested in Karma technology, Stephen Kay has now posted 6 of 7 video segments of his OASYS Karma presentation he gave at Music Player Live:

http://www.karma-lab.com/vp/

[Markyboard]

Originally posted by Martin Hines:

Originally posted by Erroll:

Good grief! I must have the worst salesman in the world. He charged me $8500 and I'm still on the waiting list.

Hello "Erroll/Phineas/White Powder Ma/Paul". It is nice to see you and "Jeebus/Chris100/Delirium/Ramsey/Yeti/Ashley Judd/Cheesuschrist" bouncing OASYS criticisms off one another again, just like the old days! Throw in "Mike51/Montana25/Arvon45" and we could have our own reunion party!!

 

I would think all of these aliases would be confusing!! LOL!

 

Given all of your comments about the OASYS (on all of the forums) I would personally HAVE A HEART ATTACK if you purchased an OASYS.

 

You are SUCH a funny guy !!!

Wow - I thad to check which forum I was on. Why are you guys here Martin? Just curious.

[Martin Hines]

Originally posted by Markyboard:

Wow - I thad to check which forum I was on. Why are you guys here Martin? Just curious.

Hi Markyboard,

 

It is nice to see someone who uses the same screen name across multiple forums (it is hard to keep track of otherwise).

 

To your question, I came across this forum last April and joined at that time. Although I don't post here very much, I do "lurk" and see what is being discussed from time to time.

 

I happened to be looking at the various topics when I came across one with OASYS in the title and thought to myself "I wonder if some of my 'buddies' have posted here?", and low and behold, I see two of them -- Jeebus and Phineas.

 

I just HAD to say hi!

 

As to why they feel compelled to criticize the OASYS every single time they see a post about it, you will have to ask them -- it is a mystery to me

[Markyboard]

Originally posted by Martin Hines:

It is nice to see someone who uses the same screen name across multiple forums (it is hard to keep track of otherwise).

I'm warning you. You'll find my sense of humor no better over here.

 

 

I just HAD to say hi!

All are welcome. This reminds me of the original Star Trek episode "Errand of Mercy"

 

 

"Sent to establish an alliance with the peaceful, unsophisticated planet Organia which is located strategically between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, Kirk is disgusted to find the inhabitants apathetic to the presence of Klingons on their world."

 

At KC...we are a simple people.