Gus Mueller Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I just got a hammond m3 - it looks awesome, but it doesn't want to start up... I've oiled it with the official hammond generator oil, and I've waited a week for that to soak in, but when I try to start it up ( as described here: http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/HowToStartAHammond ) nothing happens. Just some scratchy noises and then silence. I've made a little movie of it trying to start up here: http://gusmueller.com/2005/movies/MVI_3989.AVI I really don't know a whole lot about what I'm doing - so if anyone has some pointers for me, I'd appreciate it. I've used google quite a bit to help myself out- but I haven't seen anything that might apply to me. thanks, -gus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I had a b3 that sat in storage for a few years and when I tried to start it...same thing. I don't know if this was smart or not, but it worked. I good friend of mine told me to shoot wd40 down in the little oil cups. Worked like a charm for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gods element Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 You need to hold up the start switch for about 5 seconds and then hold up both the run and start switches together for about 5 more seconds. A-102/Leslie 122...can't live without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidLifeCrisis Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I concur with Mr. Element. The video was kind of quick but it sounds like you are attempting to start it using both switches simultaneous. When the start switch has been held long enough you will notice a slight change in the whirring noise. That is the time to hit the run switch. Keep both of them going until the baby starts to purr. I have heard of the WD40 thing, but I would only recommend it as a last resort. Steve A Lifetime of Peace, Love and Protest Music www.rock-xtreme.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Mueller Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 I'm starting it using the start switch first- for about 8 seconds, and then I flip up the run switch while the start switch is still up. At this point everything goes silent with both switch in the up position. Could there maybe be some bad wiring in there? Or does something just need to be lubed up? I'm happy to take pictures or more videos if you think it would help in diagnosing the problem. thanks, (and for the very fast replies!) -gus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Doe Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Originally posted by Gus Mueller: I'm starting it using the start switch first- for about 8 seconds, and then I flip up the run switch while the start switch is still up. At this point everything goes silent with both switch in the up position. Could there maybe be some bad wiring in there? Or does something just need to be lubed up? I'm happy to take pictures or more videos if you think it would help in diagnosing the problem. thanks, (and for the very fast replies!) -gus Try this: Start switch for 8 seconds. Leaving the start switch on, turn on the run switch for 8 seconds then turn off the start switch. The start switch on a Hammond is spring loaded so that it only stays on if you hold it in the on position. Once you let go of it, it should automatically flip off. My C2 usually takes about another 20-30 seconds before the tubes get warmed up and it starts making music. No signature required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Mueller Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Still no luck. I'm thinking maybe the problem is somewhere else. The shop that I got the oil from said they knew a guy in town that loved to work on hammonds, so maybe I'll give him a buzz. thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in KS Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Is it still under warranty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Mueller Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Heh- no it's not under warranty anymore It was a freebee though- but I'm determined to get it running again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Couldn't tell anything from the video. Actually sounded to me like it was starting. That loud noise you hear is the starter motor - the synchronous motor should be a lot quieter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Mueller Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 ohhhhhh - I (and my wife) got it spinning! What we ended up doing was manually rotating the wheel on the left quite a bit, and it seemed to loosen something up. After that when I hit the starter, everything started spinning (I didn't realize it was supposed to move around on the left... honestly, I wasn't sure what to expect). Now I just need to figure out why no sound is coming out -gus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Originally posted by Gus Mueller: Now I just need to figure out why no sound is coming out -gus ummmmm, press on some keys. (sorry. somebody had to say it.) "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Got any drawbars pulled out? "A cheerful heart is good medicine." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Mueller Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 I've got all the drawbars pulled out. I did manage to get the slightest amount of sound out of it, when the vibrato solo manual is turned to the on position. If I turn that off, then nothing comes through (and it's only this switch as far as I can tell). It's very, very quiet. But it's progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Could be: Dead tube(s) bad wiring Try to determine if the problem is in the preamp or the power amp. The preamp has the expression box attached to the volume pedal. It has outputs that are probably marked G G or something like that. Hang a guitar jack off that and plug it into an external amp. If it works, then the problem is further downstream in the power amp. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Gus, Check the volume toggle switch that it is not on "soft", and make sure the expression pedal is completely depressed. Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Gus, Trying to diagonose your problem long distance is just too frustrating. It looks like you'll have to bring it in. ...Hey guys, what's our address here (and hand me another beer, OK?) (Do ya ever forget that you're talking to people located anywhere? I know *I* do. "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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