Groovepusher Sly Posted January 9, 2003 Posted January 9, 2003 Let us know how the demo was. Cambridge, MA - Monday, December 23, 2002 - [url=http://www.motu.com]MOTU, Inc.[/url] announced today that it will debut a pre-release version of Digital Performer for Mac OS X at NAMM 2003 in Anaheim, CA this coming January. Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Stephen Fortner Posted January 9, 2003 Posted January 9, 2003 I will be going to NAMM, and I'm one of those that's been waiting, so I certainly intend to check it out. Over on the Unicornation forums there's been a huge MOTU-bashing fest about the delays, and frankly I don't see what all the fuss is about. Until Waves, Altiverb, BombFactory, all the good soft synths, etc, are happening in X, no DAW is happening in X. I am eager, though. I use X for my non-audio apps and when I go back into 9 it feels medieval. I'm also curious to see if DPX will support the new Audio Units standard for plugs, or if they'll port MAS over. Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse
Jonathan Hughes Posted January 9, 2003 Posted January 9, 2003 According to a post on the MOTU list from someone who was at an in-store Demo, DP X will support audio units. They didn't say if it will replace MAS or be supported along side it.
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 10, 2003 Author Posted January 10, 2003 I'll be waiting to hear your comments. Give it a thorough going over if you can. Can't wait. Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Ultravibe Posted January 10, 2003 Posted January 10, 2003 I don't understand the MOTU bashers, either. They make a pretty darn good product and even though 3.1 was delayed, when it did come out I was comfortable installing it because I knew it would have few bugs. And I was right. The bugs it did have that interrupted workflow were minor and fixed with 3.11 pretty quickly. So when DPX comes out, I'll be comfortable waiting another few months for all the plug-in manufacturers to update their product. And maybe even longer for Apple to release an OS that has the same audio capabilities as OS 9. Of course, sooner or later I'm gonna have to buy a computer that sings with X... money money money money money Andrew Mazzocchi
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 10, 2003 Author Posted January 10, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Ultravibe: [b]I don't understand the MOTU bashers, either. They make a pretty darn good product and even though 3.1 was delayed, when it did come out I was comfortable installing it because I knew it would have few bugs. And I was right. The bugs it did have that interrupted workflow were minor and fixed with 3.11 pretty quickly.[/b] I agree totally. [b]So when DPX comes out, I'll be comfortable waiting another few months for all the plug-in manufacturers to update their product.[/b] Ditto, I DO NOT mind waiting! [b]And maybe even longer for Apple to release an OS that has the same audio capabilities as OS 9.[/b] ??? What capabilites do you mean?[/quote]Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Salyphus Posted January 10, 2003 Posted January 10, 2003 I agree that it's worth waiting for a solid product and that their stuff is really good. Hoewever, they seem to be really bad at communicating with their customers for some reason. Why do we have to hear these things third-hand via someone who talks to a MOTU rep? If they can tell one person they should be able to tell all of us, what's the big (non) secret? Another example: they still haven't said officially whether current purchasers of DP3 will get DPX, yet many people claim to have been told by MOTU reps that you will get DPX if you buy DP3 after Dec. 1. Why the double standard? Gimme some truth! And where the heck are the PCI-324 drivers for OSX? I still think they have the best products out there, but there are definitely things they could do better.
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 11, 2003 Author Posted January 11, 2003 I can usually get through to tech support, and they usually send an answer to e-mail. I'm going to e-mail your comments to MOTU and see how they reply. And, I got the NAMM info from the MOTU web site. Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
alphajerk Posted January 11, 2003 Posted January 11, 2003 and find out about the OSX drivers for their PCI324/424.... i dont give a shit about DPX really until its in second rev over 3.11 but i sure would like to run FCP in OSX and be able to use my MOTU convertors for sound output. alphajerk FATcompilation "if god is truly just, i tremble for the fate of my country" -thomas jefferson
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 15, 2003 Author Posted January 15, 2003 Bump - Show starts tomorrow, hope there's a lot to hear about! Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Lee Blaske Posted January 16, 2003 Posted January 16, 2003 OTOH, if you don't hold MOTU's feet to the fire, you're not going to get any action. It's true that a lot of the plug-ins need to be ported, but the daw applications have to be ready first. MOTU is always slow to get things done. I used to really like their software, but I couldn't put up with the agonizing wait for them to be compatible with my Digidesign hardware. Anyway, in the sequencer gossip department, this leak looks quite interesting... http://f23.parsimony.net/forum49865/messages/7063.htm If the above is true, the "Freeze" function looks incredible. Could Emagic really be announcing their second generation OSX product, when companies like MOTU and Digidesign have yet to put out their first? Lee Blaske
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 16, 2003 Author Posted January 16, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Lee Blaske: [b]......MOTU is always slow to get things done. I used to really like their software, but I couldn't put up with the agonizing wait for them to be compatible with my Digidesign hardware.....[/b] I CAN wait, because when they release new versions, they WORK. [b]Could Emagic really be announcing their second generation OSX product, when companies like MOTU and Digidesign have yet to put out their first?[/b] Duhhhh, like maybe yeah!? I think I remember hearing that Apple bought Emagic. :rolleyes: [/quote]Sly :cool: Oh yeah, you got any news about DP for OSX? Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 25, 2003 Author Posted January 25, 2003 I'm a DP guy so I'm already patient. I haven't gone to OSX yet. When I do it will be on a machine running OSX ONLY. But I was thinking (wondering) about why MOTU was still lagging. So, after looking at MACHFIVE I think MOTU kinda got caught working on this software when the news about Apple buying Emagic popped up. They couldn't stop and switch to an [b]all out[/b] OSX development program. I think that, or it looks like, they had a bunch of eggs in ONE basket, and were also waiting for the second generation of OSX to make their big OSX development push. Oh well, they can't do nothing about it now cause you can't [b]predict[/b] the future. [i]Maybe that 'splaines some of the attitudes encountered at the MOTU booth. They were all walkin round thinkin to themselves, Damn! Damn. Damn! We f*cked uuuuup! Damn! Damn. Damn![/i] However, I also think (or it seems like) they were using MACHFIVE to cut their teeth on, and experiment with UNIX by making it cross platform. This would free their thinking up because they could on the one hand completely forget about DP, and the old Mac OS, (stand alone software for UNIX), while at the same time fill a hole for DP users (serious software sampler). But in the end, I think that if MOTU can be timely with the release of DPX, and it is SOLID, (which their upgrades usually are), they will be able to catch back up to the pack, and everyone will be happy. What do yall think? Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
Dan South Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Software that's 99 percent ready is about as appealing as a pizza that's 30 percent cooked. Also, the last ten percent of a project takes as much effort and time as the first ninety. Be patient. It ain't ready till it's ready. The Black Knight always triumphs!
Jotown Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Spoken like a true scholar. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great"
Groovepusher Sly Posted January 31, 2003 Author Posted January 31, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by alphajerk: [b]...find out about the OSX drivers for their PCI324/424.... i sure would like to run FCP in OSX and be able to use my MOTU convertors for sound output.[/b][/quote]324 &424 drivers for OSX available Feb. 28, 2003. Sly :cool: Whasineva ehaiz, ehissgot ta be Funky!
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