daBowsa Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Anyone gotten wind of Doepfer\'s D3 yet? Looks promising if the action is reasonable. I'm impressed that they're making it so modular - I might only need the d3c! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niacin Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 The November issue of Keyboard mentioned that Fatar/Studiologic have something similar on the drawing board aimed at use with NI's B4 or similar, and Hammond-Suzuki have finally announced their lower keyboard to go with the XK-3 and they have it set up in a traditional Hammond furniture style wooden casing and make a stand to match (this info was posted either here or at harmony-central keyboard forum a few days ago). Keys: Hammond SK2, Hammond SK1, Hammond SKpro, Korg Vox Continental, Waldorf STVC Amplification: Line6 L3T, Yamaha DBR-10, Presonus Air 10, Leslie 122V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I just wish someone would make motorized drawbars. Doepfer says they'd use 'em if any were available, but no luck. What would you pay extra to push a preset button and see the drawbars jump into place? Frankly, that's worth $100 extra to me (and I'm a big cheapskate!) When playing the drawbars, I'd rather have them start from where they really are, rather than the lesser of the typical two evils (no change until the drawbar "catches up" with the current setting, or worse, immediate change as you move it, causing a big jump in the sound.) OK, sorry, rant over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by learjeff: I just wish someone would make motorized drawbars. Doepfer says they'd use 'em if any were available, but no luck. What would you pay extra to push a preset button and see the drawbars jump into place? Frankly, that's worth $100 extra to me (and I'm a big cheapskate!) When playing the drawbars, I'd rather have them start from where they really are, rather than the lesser of the typical two evils (no change until the drawbar "catches up" with the current setting, or worse, immediate change as you move it, causing a big jump in the sound.) OK, sorry, rant over!Yes indeed - this would be wonderful. Wish my VK8 had motorized drawbars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DafDuc Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 $300 waterfall controller, huh? sweet. d3c seems a bit pricey, though? Waiting on the pedals, though - that's what I need for the VK-8!!! Daf I played in an 8 piece horn band. We would often get bored. So...three words: "Tower of Polka." - Calumet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Yo! learjeff, and Byrdman..... Please clue me in here, guys. As someone who's been manipulating drawbars seemingly forever, I don't get where you're coming from in your pining for motorized drawbars. Not knocking the concept or your desire for them, but even after reading this thread several times, I sincerely wonder why you find them to be desirable. Would they have some useful advantage, say, with softwear, MIDI, or just what? Or would it simply be the thrill of seeing them move all by themselves ? Or.....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisheye Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Same here. Why use motorized drawbars? Instead, why don't they put in two sets of drawbars per manual, as the real thing has. So you can set up your sound with one set, while playing on the other. I still opt for the JL-Cooper CS-32: 32 faders, lots of knobs in a very little package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Soundsmith Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 If you use organ presets in addition to pulling drawbrs, it's nice to have the drawbars match the current registration. OTOH, on the B3, you can't change the preset at all, moving the drawbar only affects the Bb or B preset, so even the big jump in drawbar setting is an update to nothing, I guess... Dasher Dasher - don't ask me about those other reindeer, all I can tell you is Comet's in the sink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Originally posted by The Soundsmith: If you use organ presets in addition to pulling drawbrs, it's nice to have the drawbars match the current registration.Well, sure, but why do you need presets if you have actual drawbars? I'm perplexed by this too... --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DafDuc Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 That's like asking why a Prophet 5 needed presets when it had knobs and switches... I played in an 8 piece horn band. We would often get bored. So...three words: "Tower of Polka." - Calumet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I'd use presets to start the tune, and then grab a handfull o' bars to push & pull as I play, like the great gospel players do. But regardless of where the drawbars are, when I want a particular tone real fast, just hit the preset. (I have the 8 keys below C2 mapped to presets already, just like the inverted white/black keys on a B3 -- except it has 12. Er, yes, I do hit them by mistake sometimes!) And then the drawbars are always right where they belong, for grabbing them again and playing 'em. Also, when I hit a preset, I'd know immediately what the drawbar setting for it is. (Of course, with NIB4 I can just look at my laptop screen and see 'em. On a real B, as mentioned above, you only get the drawbars in using the B or Bb preset keys. (With Bb, percussion is disabled regardless of the switch setting.) On a real B, when you hit any other preset key, any adjustments to the drawbars have no effect until you hit the B or Bb preset key. So, motorized drawbars would be better than a B3. (Omigosh, that sounds like heresy! Please forgive me!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That's cool, learjeff. 'Preciate you taking the time (and making the mental and physical effort) to expound on how you envision that motorized drawbars could be used to one's advantage. By indicating your preference for (if not reliance upon ) PRESETS (at least, as a starting point), you've pretty well explained where you're coming from regarding this possible scenario. Thanks, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Not reliance. Just a quick way to get where I know I want to go. Currently I rely on them only because I don't HAVE drawbars. Just a matter of time, though. I even bought an OB3 on ebay for the purpose, only to realize I'd bought the wrong version for that purpose (argh!) It has to be OB3-squared. Imagine my joy as I looked on the back of the OB3 and only saw "In" and "Thru" MIDI connectors. For newbies to drawbar organs, motorized drawbars would also be a great training aid. Play around with factory presets and see how the drawbars are set to get that sound, pretty quickly you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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