Dave Horne Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 MY IP does a good job with its spam filter but some spam still manages to get through. I always make it a point to forward the message to abuse@at_whatever the original routing suggests. More often than not, I receive a reply from the spammer's mail provider that the situation is under review. If you use Outlook 2000, click on View \ Options from within the e-mail to see the routing of the message. You use that information to forward the message to abuse@whatever I realize this is common knowledge, but perhaps not all that common. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 The problem I have is getting emails with false addresses. We have this problem where I work, getting spam addressed as if it is from other agencies. For home use I have considered using a system that allows only email from approved sources. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoozer Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Why bother to send back to abuse@whatever when there's nobody bothering? Check: http://www.infoworld.com/testcenter/ http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/964/ KDE Linux also has an option in Kmail that you can simply send back a reply so that it looks like the mail bounced/address was nonexistent. Works pretty neat, but not as good as a filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llarion Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Another Spam tip: Never ever ever click a link that purports to be an "unsubscribe" link in a Spam email. They are simply address validators, by and large. You'll REALLY open the floodgates. Cheers! Phil "Llarion: The Jazzinator" Traynor www.llarion.com Smooth Jazz - QUESTION AUTHORITY. Go ahead, ask me anything. http://www.llarion.com/images/dichotomybanner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I returned to work today after a week off for surgery. My in box had around 450 emails of which 7 were not spam. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guestuserguestuser.com Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Originally posted by Rabid: I returned to work today after a week off for surgery. My in box had around 450 emails of which 7 were not spam. RobertI get even more than that in my work email junkmail folder. They've switched to a new system that puts all mail from an unknown source into a 'Junk Mail' folder. They way they do that is, any mail from anyone who's email address is not in my address book goes to the junk mail folder. But, I still have to scan through to make sure there's not a bona fide email from some new person who is not yet in my address book. I think hotmail's junk filter works the same way. It sucks, big time. In my opinion, the only solution to this is to have a world-wide system similar to the post office systems throughout the world. Charge a fee for each email, and watch the volume of junk mail fall to a manageable level. I think it's going to have to come to that. In fact, maybe the current post offices should be in charge of this - it would help keep them alive. Either that, or outlaw fake email addresses somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Please, please, please don't use Outlook. You're only asking for trouble (aka virus, worm, etc.) Try Mozilla\'s Thunderbird - admittedly doesn't have the calendar/netmeeting functionality of Outlook, but for email is far superior and NO SECUTIRY HOLES! Its 100% free, and the spam filtering is great. While your at it, STOP USING IE!!! This is the #1 reason people get a virus at my company. Whether its just a new homepage or porn popping up when you haven't asked for it, its a virus and it's IE's fault. Get Firefox and browse the web with a clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Originally posted by dabowsa: Please, please, please don't use Outlook. You're only asking for trouble (aka virus, worm, etc.) Try Mozilla\'s Thunderbird - admittedly doesn't have the calendar/netmeeting functionality of Outlook, but for email is far superior and NO SECUTIRY HOLES! Its 100% free, and the spam filtering is great. While your at it, STOP USING IE!!! This is the #1 reason people get a virus at my company. Whether its just a new homepage or porn popping up when you haven't asked for it, its a virus and it's IE's fault. Get Firefox and browse the web with a clarity.I added that browser and then removed it. Nothing personal. It screwed with my desktop icons linking to web sites and even newly created icons from IE are still being directed to Firefox and I keep getting error messages. I have tried to register to their forum but that does not seem to be working out. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llarion Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Originally posted by dabowsa: Please, please, please don't use Outlook. You're only asking for trouble (aka virus, worm, etc.) Try Mozilla\'s Thunderbird - admittedly doesn't have the calendar/netmeeting functionality of Outlook, but for email is far superior and NO SECUTIRY HOLES! Its 100% free, and the spam filtering is great. While your at it, STOP USING IE!!! This is the #1 reason people get a virus at my company. Whether its just a new homepage or porn popping up when you haven't asked for it, its a virus and it's IE's fault. Get Firefox and browse the web with a clarity.I dunno; I wouldn't necessarily blame outbreaks like this on Microsoft; it's incumbent on the company using Outlook/IE to make sure that all appropriate security updates are installed, and it's also incumbent on them to run appropriate firewalls and content filtering infrastructure. The company I work for uses an outboard content filter that nabs Spam (about a 99.5% correct hit rate). I get an email once a week listing the headers of the quarantined mail; I can opt to allow, disallow, always allow, always disallow. That way, I can let it know who good senders are. There are probably 200 spams a week in my filter, and only about 3 get through unscreened. Not bad. I've never had a virus on my machine in the 11 years I've worked here, because our IT people run up to date enterprise level virus protection and hardware and software firewall solutions. The last virus I had at home was Stealth-C in 1995. I've never used anything but Microsoft mail and browsers. I'm just proactive about running up to date antivirus software, and combinations of hardware and software firewalls (Norton Antivirus, Windows XP SP2 firewall, Zone Alarm to spoof ports and nab scripts that Outlook's native protection might miss, and a Symantec hardware firewall.) My personal mailserver on my domain has extensive rules-based Spam filtering, and anything that it may miss, Outlook's Junk Mail filters nab. People are too quick to just blanket blame Microsoft. Security just takes diligence... Cheers! Phil "Llarion: The Jazzinator" Traynor www.llarion.com Smooth Jazz - QUESTION AUTHORITY. Go ahead, ask me anything. http://www.llarion.com/images/dichotomybanner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 I solved the problem created by Mozilla. I reinstalled IE and that set all the file associations back to what they were. As I was reinstalling I also realized I could have reinstalled the registry from yesterday which would have been faster. Problem solved. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Originally posted by Dave Horne: It screwed with my desktop icons linking to web sites and even newly created icons from IE are still being directed to Firefox.That's the idea - any website would now be viewed with your new "default" web browser. If you'd rather it not be your default, tell IE to be your default again. No need to uninstall it - I have IE and Firefox residing preacefully on the same machine. I have a netmeeting software that requires me to use IE, other than that Firefox beats IE, hands down. Don't give up on it so easily. I'm not blaming Microsoft, nor Outlook for all the spam. I just get worried when I hear people using these applications that have serious security holes. Especially nice people I run into on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 When I uninstalled Mozilla it did not return the URL file association back to IE. That was the problem. I could have reinstalled Mozilla and then tell it to make IE the default browser, but when I deleted Mozilla, it did not return the original settings. There are also no options in IE to make it the default browser when there is only one browser to chose from. Reinstalling IE or yesterday's registry were two of my three options. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llarion Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 File associations have never been a strong suit of Windows. They mean well, but too many other programs are piggy about changing them without telling you. System Restore is your friend. Cheers! Phil "Llarion: The Jazzinator" Traynor www.llarion.com Smooth Jazz - QUESTION AUTHORITY. Go ahead, ask me anything. http://www.llarion.com/images/dichotomybanner.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Anyway, sorry if I caused you any grief Dave - I only mean to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immo Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 It's possible to change file associations manually while viewing a folder in windows. It's a bit of a pain but you select tools:folder options. On the file types tab you can manually select which program opens which file type. Not something that you want to have to do, Mozilla really should change that back when uninstalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted October 1, 2004 Author Share Posted October 1, 2004 Originally posted by dabowsa: Anyway, sorry if I caused you any grief Dave - I only mean to help! No problem. It keeps me on my toes. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.