Togakure99 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Anyone know what type of settings (drawbar, perhaps what type of distortion, etc...) to get an organ sound similar to the one in the MP3 demo clip found here: warning: mp3 demo is about 8 MB Ars Nova page on ProgArchives.com (BTW, I'm not just spamming for this band, I just found out about them a few minutes ago Very kick ass stuff though). Arjen Lucassen has a similar organ sound through some of his Ayreon albums. I'm no Hammond master, but I was hoping I could get something similar on my K2600. I just love the growling nature of this tone. Any tips? Brett G. Hall Piano Company, Inc. Metairie, Louisiana Kurzweil Keyboard Dept. Manager "My dream is to have sex in odd time signatures." - J. Rudess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisheye Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Disclaimer: I'm not a Hammond pro. A quick guess on that part at 1.33 in the track: 808 080 000; percussion normal fast 2nd; Vibrato/Chorus off; lesly starts slow, later fast. It's not a real B3 for sure, nor is it B4. Lesly simulation sounds a bit cheesy. There is tube overdrive, which sound rather real to me and it is what it gives the growl. The 808 080 000 guess is based on the idea that it sounds not very full, thus the base sound is made up of octave harmonics (first two 8's). Then it sounds like there is some fifth in there (which I somehow associate with a 'nasal' sound), so that's the third 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Sounds more like 88 8800 000 or maybe 88 8880 000 to me; no vibrato, fast 3rd harmonic percussion. But the growl comes mostly from the amp, and that sounds like a real Leslie amp. The fast Leslie sounds affected, so maybe it's not a real Leslie, but if it's a sim, it's a really good tube amp sim to get that much "life" in the sound. It's not a real Hammond, where the keyboard doesn't go up as high as some of the notes played (not to mention the pitch bends). And if it's B4, it's not the Leslie amp sim in B4. I can get some nice growl from that, but not the liveliness you hear in that run to high C at 1:47 -- sounds a lot like Keith Emerson's rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togakure99 Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 Thanks guys. That's a big help to me because I don't understand how some guys can tell the difference between something like 888 680 007 and 888 580 007. Seriously, how many people can tell a difference between one step of a drawbar in all that mix of partials? Some drawbar settings that might sound totally different to some people I can't make much of a distinction between at all, so when it comes to dissecting sounds like this, I'm clueless. My second problem is that I know pretty much nothing about amps and speakers and simulating certain tones from them. I don't play guitar, so that stuff is pretty foreign to me as well. I've got the whole of KDFX in my K2600XS and a KSP8 to play with though. Brett G. Hall Piano Company, Inc. Metairie, Louisiana Kurzweil Keyboard Dept. Manager "My dream is to have sex in odd time signatures." - J. Rudess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Good luck, and when you get it figured out, write a book OK? Meanwhile, remember that it's not important to copy the sound, it's important to make it work. It's not unusual for me to find a sound very close to an original, but then I use a different sound for particular reasons of fitting in with the other parts better (none of which are exact matches for the originals anyway). BTW, I have a lot of fun trying to do as perfect a copy of originals as possible. But crowds don't demand, expect, or necessarily even want that, and most bands don't sound the same live either. So, while it's fun and you can learn from it, it's otherwise pretty pointless. Better to be who you are, play what you do, and make the music work as it comes from YOU. The LAST thing you should fret about is a couple clicks on a tonebar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod76 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 For some true type distortion I useally go for a 288 XXX XXX setting If the 1st drawbar is pulled all the way to 8th, it tends to damper the growl I feel. You have to play (very) Loud of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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