MIDIdiot Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I'm at the piano right now doing these. Part of my road to jazz . Would you say this is this useful? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 yes. Listen to some Monk and see how he does with 3rds and 6ths- make sure to do some mixolydian scales that way! A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 what do you mean by scales in 3rds? do you mean C Eb Gb A C kind of stuff or perhaps C E Ab C? or do you simply mean playing a major scale and its 3rd at the same time ie C E - D F# I quite like playing 6ths when I play latin and world music material.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I assume you mean playing in 'thirds' and not 'double thirds'. Why stop there. Play scales in sixths as well. I have found that playing anything in unisons (well, octaves apart) is actually easier to play than playing in thirds or sixths. In addition to playing your scales in thirds or sixths, be sure you play your scales starting not just on scale degree 1 but on every scale degree. Also, it doesn't hurt to study with a teacher who can offer real advice in real time. There ain't no short cuts in music, and a teacher can help you focus your practice time more efficiently. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIDIdiot Posted September 1, 2004 Author Share Posted September 1, 2004 What I meant was playing the major scale and it's 3rd at the same time ie each hand playing two notes at a time. I just started listening to Monk CD I have and I thought I heard 3rds and 6ths. I'll try the mixolydian scales. Yes, 3rds and 6ths are harder to play than regular scales in unison. Do you play 6ths all with finger 1 & 5 (please say yes). Dave, as for lessons, sure I'd love to but I'm so far removed from that point now, so many other obligations (family etc.). COllectively over the course of growing up I'd say I've taken at least five years of classical lesson. This includes a few months of jazz lessons with a permer while at university. I believe I have the tools either in my hand or in the form of books I have amassed in order to get a lot further on the piano than I am now. Obviously, I find a forum like this so useful for some of the questions I have posted here of late. I would certainly understand if using this forum in this way is frowned upon here seeing as many of you are professional players, professors, teachers etc. I could understand you not wanting to be 'used' like that. So let me know if you feel it's best not to post regular questions like this. In the meantime, thanks for all the tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I could understand you not wanting to be 'used' like that. So let me know if you feel it's best not to post regular questions like this. If I didn't want to answer and pass on what I like to think is good advice, I wouldn't. In all fairness, it really might be to your advantage to once in a while grab a lesson with someone just to have a one on one situation. I had a light go on in my head many years ago (that doesn't happen very often) and I realized that I would be more productive or efficient if I were to pretty much practice 'things' that I use in my actual playing. I don't practice scales anymore unless I stumble across a 'run' that is giving me a problem and then I will practice that 'run' just like I would practice a scale. It is interesting that is is easier to play lines in unison than in thirds or sixths. Oscar and Phineas are amazing in their ability to play lines in unisons. I listen to Oscar and still think I should have switched professions. (It's too late, I have too much time invested. It can be slightly depressing to be a slave to an instrument. I took three weeks off from playing and its taken me over a week to get back to where I was. All this to keep my wife happy during 'her' vacation.) No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIDIdiot Posted September 1, 2004 Author Share Posted September 1, 2004 It is interesting that is is easier to play lines in unison than in thirds or sixths. Oscar and Phineas are amazing in their ability to play lines in unisons. I listen to Oscar and still think I should have switched professions. (It's too late, I have too much time invested. It can be slightly depressing to be a slave to an instrument. I took three weeks off from playing and its taken me over a week to get back to where I was. All this to keep my wife happy during 'her' vacation.) Thanks Dave. HOpefully I will have the occasion to sit down with someone like that someday. I don't think I will listen to Oscar, for that very reason. I need to at least envision being to get to a certain level, to listen to someone. Oscar is not in any universe I will ever be in. Hey, be happy you DIDN'T switch professions! THen you'd have ended up like me, wishing you were able to live and support your family 'musically'. (Somehow) I drifted off that path in my early 20s. In my latter teens I would have sworn that wouldn't have happened. Music - the passion that never dies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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