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See Mike Martin @ NAMM: Playing the Concert Grand On New PLG Card From Yamaha

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Sergievsky

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Thanks. Wow, that sounded nice. I'm gonna look into that and a used module to put it in, so I don't have to limit my Triton Rack and its pianoboard (which I've been really happy with) just for piano for live shows.

 

Like other plgs, I'm assuming that adds to the polyphony? What's the cheapes module I can put it in? (sorry, it IS going to be used only for piano)

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Mmmmm... sounds tasty. This card will work in a variety of Yamaha keyboards and yes it adds 64 notes of it's own polyphony. As a Yamaha 9000 Pro owner I'm looking forward trying the PLG150-AP with a pro-level Motif-quality arranger. I wish Yamaha would include PLG card capability for more of it's arranger keyboards because they need the added polyphony even more than most keyboards. Since the 9000 Pro can accept two cards, I could conceivably add a 128-note-polyphony triple strike piano to my instrument's native 128, for a total of 256. Yikes, what a monster that'll be... :thu:
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Who knows if the "three-layer sample set from the flagship Yamaha CFIIIS Concert Grand Piano, including the stuningly realistic sounds, physical characteristics and nuances of the sampled instrument" is the same sample found in the P-250? Or is it just the same as the piano from the Motif ES?
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Mike Martin

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This new sample has never been used in any Yamaha product before. It is dramatically different than anything else Yamaha currently has in the product line.

-Mike Martin

 

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Mike, could you -please- define better "dramatically different"? :confused:;)

Thanks

Andrea

(Yamaha products owner and potential PLG150-AP buyer) :cool:

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Mike Martin,

 

I'm about to buy a P250, & I understand that this board does not have any expansion capability - So, I guess this new piano sample your talking about here can't be used on it? If not - Is it that much of a loss to not have it - & is there another 88 weighted key Yam board in the P250 price range that can utilize this sample? It seems that I would have to move up to the more expensive Motif's, & I just can't stretch my funds that far. Please elaborate. Thanks

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Mike Martin

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None of the P-series products accept the Modular Synthesis Plug In cards. The following products are compatible:

 

Motif ES

Original Motif

Motif Rack

S90

S80

S30

CS6X

CS6R

MU128

MU100®

SW1000XG

PSR9000 Pro

Kenton Plug Station

 

Several of the products listed above are discontinued. If you were looking for a host to hold a the PLG150AP you might be able to find an inexpensive option by finding something used on ebay.

 

In regards to the sound of the PLG150AP. It is a much more mellow sounding piano. Dare I say it....its is not the sound that people generally associate with Yamaha pianos. The two soft layers in particular are just make this sound beautiful for classical, jazz, new age and any solo piano work. When you play hard, the third layer will still cut through.

 

The P250 in particular can do many things that the PLG150-AP can't. The P-series for example have a Graded Hammer action, none of the "synthesizer" products offer this particular touch. The P250 also has sympathetic resonance, half pedaling "sustain layers" and more that make it one of the most detailed piano sounds available.

 

The PLG150-AP is another flavor. Its another color to add to your pallete of sounds. Personally I don't like to get into these is this piano sound better than another discussions because everyone has their own preferences. The PLG150-AP has a character that is different than pianos we have previously sampled. Its something that you'll have to experience to understand.

 

Having said that we will have 3 MP3 demos up soon. But I have a quick story to tell about what happened during the creating of these demos.

 

We had one of our product specialist re-do a song that he had originally written for the S90 demo. He worked on this new version WITHOUT have a PLG150-AP, just used the S90's piano. We received the MIDI file back and it simply didn't sound as good as we expected when it played on the PLG150-AP. We tried several more times with similar results. Finally we got another prototype card to send him. We immediately got back a MIDI file that was stunning. The difference in how his playing changed when playing the PLG150-AP made all the difference.

 

So even though MP3's comparisons of piano sounds using the same MIDI file are useful for getting a basic character of how a sampled piano sounds, nothing beats actually playing it yourself. :)

 

When this card becomes available, certainly one of my goals is to get as many dealers as I can to INSTALL a PLG150-AP into one of their floor models so you can check it out.

-Mike Martin

 

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Mike Martin

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:cool:

I think the switching is done very well. Perhaps such as dB anyone else that played the board at Summer NAMM could chime in. Again, there will be audio demos soon, but to judge the product properly you should wait until you have an opportunity to play it.

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eric

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Hey Mike,

 

Can you say that the new PLG Concetrt Grand Piano card is an improvement over the S700 Triple Strike in the S90 and ES? If you can't say that it is is then why would a S90 or Motis ES owner buy one?

Petros,

 

Did you read the story that Mike posted about the product specialist and the comparison between the S90 piano and the new one? Here it is:

 

Having said that we will have 3 MP3 demos up soon. But I have a quick story to tell about what happened during the creating of these demos.

 

We had one of our product specialist re-do a song that he had originally written for the S90 demo. He worked on this new version WITHOUT have a PLG150-AP, just used the S90's piano. We received the MIDI file back and it simply didn't sound as good as we expected when it played on the PLG150-AP. We tried several more times with similar results. Finally we got another prototype card to send him. We immediately got back a MIDI file that was stunning. The difference in how his playing changed when playing the PLG150-AP made all the difference.

To me, that sounds pretty darn convincing! I cannot wait to play this piano sound!

 

Regards,

Eric

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Is the P250 sound available on any more portable or 76 key keyboards? I enjoyed playing the P250 and it also sounded good in mono. Thanks
No...as far as I know, the P250 sound is just in the P250 and possibly some of the higher end Clavinova keyboards that would be even larger than the P250.

 

I agree, the P250 is an amazing instrument.

 

Regards,

Eric

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