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Except she has 2 Xpanders, Andromeda, Minimoog Voyager, etc. She's in the back of Keyboard this month. I wonder if she uses 1/4 of the synths in that room.

 

Too much stuff. It would be tough to be creative in there. I'm moving towards less stuff.

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can you say obsessive compulsive!

"You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor."

-- Ernie Stires, composer

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Alright, now is the time for someone to post the link of that one forum member that has that INSANE collection that he eventually sold. The one with the beautiful room, the Waldorf Wave, the Gleeman Pentaphonic, etc.

"For instance" is not proof.

 

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Originally posted by synthetic:

I wonder if she uses 1/4 of the synths in that room.

 

Too much stuff. It would be tough to be creative in there. I'm moving towards less stuff.

That's an odd comment to make. Do you wonder the same thing about Mr Bryce? Or Marino? Or Phil O'Keefe? Is there a reason why you'd doubt it in this particular instance?

 

EDIT: My apologies synthetic. I took your comment out of context. Yoozer showed me a different perspective below.

"For instance" is not proof.

 

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Odd, zeronyne?

 

Nay. Pretty much every music forum that eventually stumbles on Her Synthness gets a comment like that; or more. I know, I've seen at least 3 of 'm like that, all getting not that nice rather quick.

 

Minimalism my blessed behind, nobody with a half brain refuses a room full of synths like that. As far as actually using them goes; if one hadn't seen the pictures, the synths and the studio would still exist, and nobody'd give a damn. Plus, any guesses would've been just as valid ;) .

 

On the other hand, the interview another forum held with her was very interesting. You can read it here : http://synthforum.nl/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21522

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Originally posted by Yoozer:

On the other hand, the interview another forum held with her was very interesting. You can read it here : http://synthforum.nl/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21522

I apologized to Synthetic above. I misunderstood his intent, I think.

 

But I'm not sure why people would be vitriolic towards her. OK, she's definitely got an uncommon source of income, and she definitely likes how she looks. But the Maxwerk software is, from what I can tell, a fairly cool thing she's developed, and her interview was very to the point and a bit self deprecating.

 

Yes, the photos are a bit cheesy, but I think there's more to her than GAS. It's not like she couldn't afford a new G5 (or 10 of them), and it's not like she avoids them because she's not good with new technology. she just never gets rid of anything.

 

If I didn't sell any of my great that I've owned, I'd have almost the same amount of stuff as her. I say good for her.

"For instance" is not proof.

 

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Note also her "B" rig and its stated uses:

 

SYSTEM B -- Internet use and preliminary composition

Omnirax ProStation, Jr. workdesk with 3 equipment bays

Power Macintosh G3: 2nd unit, with external firewall and DSL modem

Opcode Studio 5LX MIDI interface

Peavey PC-1600x fader box (2nd unit)

Alesis QuadraSynth Plus Piano (2nd unit)

Roland SC-88 Sound Canvas (2nd unit)

 

So as far as "creativity" goes, she writes on a Sound Canvas!!

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Originally posted by Magpel:

Re: the forumite guy who had that astonishing collection and sold it, wasn't his name Roland? I don't remember his handle, but I well remember his rig!!

His name was Roland and his handle was R. His collection was truly amazing and I did hear he sold his stuff on Ebay.

 

You can see some of his stuff here.

 

aL

Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand.

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Not even in my best "Lottery Fantasy" do I have that much gear. How much can you really dive in and experiment with an instrument with all that? I'll bet she doesn't get much further than the presets on much of that gear.

Consider all the money spent on that gear, then look at the pile of crappy Hosa snakes. I mean I have crappy Hosa snakes as well, but I too am....crappy.

Also, does anyone need that many Nord leads? Or multiple JP8000 and JP8080 units? I do have to give props to the Beige G3 though - apparently I'm not the only one hopelessly out of date.

As for the other collector described in earlier posts - now that was my kind of collection. There were definitely some classic units there - CS80, DX1 etc.....

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What's funny to me is that many of you already HAVE the amount of sounds she has - in soft synths!

 

I honestly think that I have acces to more sounds than she has with my VSTi rig.

 

Absynth

D'cota

Groove Agent

Trilogy

Atmosphere

Stylus

CS-80

Moog Modular

Atom Pro

NI B4

Pro 53

Crystal

Drumagog

Super Quartet

Pentagon

Quantum 64

Satyr

The Grand

VirSyn

Virtual Guitarist

Super Wave P8

NI FM7

Plex

Waldorf Attack

Anenome

Bass Station

Rainbow Synth

Ticky Clav

EVP73

Bomb That Beat

Cheese Machine

BS-1

Claw

DreamKiller

Edirol Orchestral

Space Synth

Galactix

JX220

Kick

Helga

Leto

Lupah

Mercury-1

Model-E

Oberon-8

Oddity

Retro-Laser

Phobia Station

Plastic CZ

Poly Iblit

Quadra SID

Beast

JunoX2

Slayer

Synth1

TBL

Triangle II

 

....and way more than I can add to this list. And many of these are freebies!

 

The point is - just because you have all of these sounds, it dosen't mean you get "lost". On the contrary - it means less time programming your own because you can't find a good preset!

 

Just jumping around some of these VSTi's gives instant inspiration - there's some pretty funky stuff out there once you get past the glossy Roland/Korg/Yamaha sounds which everybody knows anyway.

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Hi all,

I don't post here much, but I do check in once in a while. Thought I'd respond to a few comments!

 

Yep, my setup looks like it would be confusing, but everything's online in the MIDI setup (the 4 networked serial port interfaces can run 512 channels), and most of the rackmount stuff has a patch editor that integrates with my main sequencer. I tend to buy the keyboard version of a synth if I'm better off editing it directly. What's pretty vital is alphabetical and port-by-port studio setup diagrams that I keep handy, mostly to remind me which toys have a return cable to the computer permanently in place. I have some ridiculous THRU lines that I sometimes bypass to avoid latency and powering up stuff in between,

 

I wouldn't want an all-analog studio, but if I had to have only one synthesis method represented, analog would be it. The most fun thing I've got going now is building gizmos in Max to play a stack of five (soon to be six) Waldorf Pulses (Pulsi?)--because you can use control changes for all parameters, you don't have to mess with hex, and can see 'em pasted into a sequence.

 

Creativity-wise, I like being able to fit my essentials into a computer bag. You can do just enough with control changes in a Sound Canvas (NRPN's actually) to sketch out ideas (most people never bother to figure this out). The reason this works for me is one of priorities--I don't think in terms of sound design right off the bat, I think in terms of notes and chordal movement, in a traditional western-music way. Having sketched out what I'm trying to do, I'm able to approach the gear pile with an idea of what I'm asking it for. Synths are just plain sexier to me if they're in hardware. Newer softsynths will of course do things that aren't realized by the manufacturer in hardware form, but I'm okay with that.

 

When I look at my studio I see people, many of whom I know via email or have been lucky enough to meet at NAMM shows--standing behind their contributions to the world of electronic music. It's so cool to draw on all that genius. This is an element of music that's relatively new in human experience.

 

There was a comment about cables--I re-patch in the shortest path possible before A to D to multi-track record, bypassing my room listening setup. So (thank goodness!) everyday-adequate cables are all I need. BTW, I was stoked when I set up in my new house to find how much hiss and junk, compared to what I had before, is removed from my system by the balanced power unit I had built in.

 

Well, you folks have been kinder to me than the silliness I've found in some other forums. I think it was Rollerator's wonderful photos that were referred to above--all that classy wood in the room, and his Waldorf Wave--yummy!

 

I'll put in a plug for the SynthSights group. If anyone wants to talk about creativity and getting along with your music setup with a bunch of cool folks, check it out here:

 

http://www.synthsights.synth.net

 

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Forget the music store :eek: ...I'd just go to her house and try out the different synths! :thu::cool:

 

Cikira, you've got to have an endless amount of inspiration around all of those synths! ;)

Yamaha MODX8, Korg Kronos 2 61, Hammond B3, Novation 61SL MKII, Impulse 61, Roland D-550, Proteus 2000, etc......to name a few.
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Originally posted by Yoozer:

[QB]

 

Minimalism my blessed behind, nobody with a half brain refuses a room full of synths like that.QB]

I wouldn't refuse it, but I'd probably sell 90% of it :D

 

That being said, its all about being happy and Ckira seems like a nice lady the way she has responded over the years.

 

Personally, I wouldn't like a room filled with synths.. I'd spend too much time fiddling... even now I feel that way with set up of Rhodes 73, Novation KS4, Yamaha Motif7, Roland SH09, Korg Z1, Korg Wavestation, Yamaha P120 and Reason...

 

so many choices... so little time! :D

 

My ultimate setup would be a few synth keyboards, rhodes and Steinway... what more could anyone want? :D

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Originally posted by zeronyne:

But I'm not sure why people would be vitriolic towards her.

I can't really speak for her, but every time I saw the link somewhere on a forum the thread went astray. Same goes for Rollerator; too bad I lost the exact link, but people started making accusations that it was a crime somehow to own such an "obscene" amount of gear, that the music would most likely suck (as if the amount of gear and the quality of music are inversely linear related), that someone else, given that studio would sell pretty much everything except a few pieces, and that someone didn't 'deserve' something like that. I was even asked to debunk a few rumours where someone thought that all the pictures were CGI-generated.

 

I don't know; I think any bigger project studio simply has a mixing console worth at least half of that gear already (in terms of "obscene" I think I'd rather take a Neve channelstrip as an example than 2 Viruses - *ducks for the rotten fruit*) - that's why VA's are more economic in a way. So it might be a kind of selective envy in a way, and following the aforementioned "law" above, claiming to reduce one's own equipment to the minimum, a boasting of skills.

 

If I didn't sell any of my great that I've owned, I'd have almost the same amount of stuff as her. I say good for her.
I can't make the same claim but agree with the intentions :) .

 

No offense intended to anyone, by the way; my guesses are mostly based on what I've seen on other forums, not here.

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I have a question. In the Keyboard Mag pictures, bottom picture, bottom of that picture and just to the right of the black Moog Voyager. What is the device with 6 sides and what seems to be silver touch pads on a black base? I'm enough of a gear head to recognize most keyboard and electronic drum devices but that one has me stumped.

 

Robert

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Originally posted by cikira:

... Well, you folks have been kinder to me than the silliness I've found in some other forums. ...

Our esteemed moderator, Dave Bryce, has us trained as well as possible and you will find that this is one of the nicest forums on the web. It is also a knowledgeable group of people representing many musical venues and a variety of countries. You are welcome to stick around and discuss your favorite synths, or just talk some football.

 

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Originally posted by Rabid:

I have a question. In the Keyboard Mag pictures, bottom picture, bottom of that picture and just to the right of the black Moog Voyager. What is the device with 6 sides and what seems to be silver touch pads on a black base? I'm enough of a gear head to recognize most keyboard and electronic drum devices but that one has me stumped.

Looks like a Buchla Thunder to me.

 

http://www.buchla.com/historical/thunder/images/thunderpretty.jpeg

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I've pretty much scoured every page on her site I can find my way to, are there any actual examples of her music anywhere? I'd love to hear what she's making.

"You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor."

-- Ernie Stires, composer

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Originally posted by cikira:

[QB]The most fun thing I've got going now is building gizmos in Max to play a stack of five (soon to be six) Waldorf Pulses (Pulsi?)--because you can use control changes for all parameters, you don't have to mess with hex, and can see 'em pasted into a sequence.

 

I was wondering about the stack of Pulses. Does this allow them to be played as a 6 voice, polyphonic synth or does it just layer them as 6 monophonic sounds?

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Originally posted by mound:

I've pretty much scoured every page on her site I can find my way to, are there any actual examples of her music anywhere? I'd love to hear what she's making.

Yeah, Cikira, how about posting a link or two to your music? :wave::love:
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Originally posted by ABECK:

Originally posted by cikira:

[QB]I was wondering about the stack of Pulses. Does this allow them to be played as a 6 voice, polyphonic synth or does it just layer them as 6 monophonic sounds?

They can operate as a 6 voice poly synth. I used to have 4 myself (down to one now).

"For instance" is not proof.

 

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Just a wee bit judgmental, aren't we???

 

Originally posted by ABECK:

Not even in my best "Lottery Fantasy" do I have that much gear. How much can you really dive in and experiment with an instrument with all that? I'll bet she doesn't get much further than the presets on much of that gear.

Consider all the money spent on that gear, then look at the pile of crappy Hosa snakes. I mean I have crappy Hosa snakes as well, but I too am....crappy.

Also, does anyone need that many Nord leads? Or multiple JP8000 and JP8080 units? I do have to give props to the Beige G3 though - apparently I'm not the only one hopelessly out of date.

As for the other collector described in earlier posts - now that was my kind of collection. There were definitely some classic units there - CS80, DX1 etc.....

I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist.

 

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Originally posted by coyote:

[QB]Just a wee bit judgmental, aren't we???

 

Wee bit? No, I was layin' it on thick!

Just kidding. I didn't mean to sound judgemental, it just looked like overkill to me. Don't get me wrong, I would love to surround myself with all that gear. I just can't imagine the logistical difficulties learning the complexities of so much equipment. I can't even find the time to learn all the programming nuances of my FS1R. And that's just one module.

Either way, it's a beutiful setup - very awe inspiring. :eek:

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