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Dave Horne

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I really wish manufacturers would incorporate a clock into the screen of their equipment. It would have to be on screen all the time, maybe lust a 'time' button and you can see the time.

 

I remember back in my college days playing and practicing on a pipe organ and there was usually a built in analogue clock in the wooden case.

 

Since many of us use electronic keyboards on jobs, it's really nice to be able to see the time without having to make it too obvious.

 

Just my two cents ... how much can this cost? I'll probably velcro a small digital clock to my new keyboard.

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

I really wish manufacturers would incorporate a clock into the scree of their equipment. It would have to be on screen all the time, maybe lust a 'time' button and you can see the time.

I'll probably velcro a small digital clock to my new keyboard.

I'm with you completly. It would really be nice feature on any keyboard instrument/module. It would really help me a lot sometimes.
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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

I really wish manufacturers would incorporate a clock into the screen of their equipment. It would have to be on screen all the time, maybe lust a 'time' button and you can see the time.

 

I remember back in my college days playing and practicing on a pipe organ and there was usually a built in analogue clock in the wooden case.

 

Since many of us use electronic keyboards on jobs, it's really nice to be able to see the time without having to make it too obvious.

 

Just my two cents ... how much can this cost? I'll probably velcro a small digital clock to my new keyboard.

There would have to be a "bar" button as well that showed the clock as fifteen minutes fast.
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Hey Dave!

 

Here, in "The Land of the Midnight Sun",

we just set up our grand pianos so that the instrument,

with the lid up on its support stick, acts as a sun-dial,

with the resultant shadow accurately informing us of

an upcoming beer break. :cool:

 

When using a tonewheel Hammond,

we always pack a second Leslie with a plexiglass rear panel,

that has been converted into a 4-hour hourglass. ;)

 

Then again, if you want the correct time,

get it from the drummer. :P

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Originally posted by Jeep:

Hey Dave!

 

Here, in "The Land of the Midnight Sun",

we just set up our grand pianos so that the instrument,

with the lid up on its support stick, acts as a sun-dial,

with the resultant shadow accurately informing us of

an upcoming beer break. :cool:

 

When using a tonewheel Hammond,

we always pack a second Leslie with a plexiglass rear panel,

that has been converted into a 4-hour hourglass. ;)

 

Then again, if you want the correct time,

get it from the drummer. :P

You should buy my book. As you know the earth's orbit is not a perfect circle. This introduces some errors in a sundial, So I published a book of corrections, under the title "Time Waits for Gnomon"
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Originally posted by Mark Weiss:

When I want to know what time it is, I just look at my watch. :)

On almost all of my jobs I am wearing a tux with a tux shirt with cufflinks. It is not always so easy to push up the sleeve and take a look at the face of the watch. Since our pianos are packed with electronics, a simple digital clock wouldn't be much to ask.

 

.... and I always feel a bit uncomfortable looking at my watch when I'm on a job. It can give the false impression that I want to leave when in fact I just want to know what the time it.

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In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

[QBand I always feel a bit uncomfortable looking at my watch when I'm on a job. It can give the false impression that I want to leave when in fact I just want to know what the time it.[/QB]

I have the same problem sometimes. Once we were auditioning for one label, I looked at the time and label director made a comment how we look too much in a hurry. Clock on keyabord display would not hurt and probably would not add to the instrument price...

I also had "time" problem quite a few times on my day jobs during meetings... sometimes I felt everybody felt that I want to leave early...

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I understand your point, Dave. But.....

 

PLEASE GOD NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

 

I can already get the correct time from my PC, my coffeemaker, my VCR, my toaster, my oven, my car, my car radio, my telephone AND the answering machine, my TV..... oh yeah, along with every alarm clock and wall clock. PLEASE don't make me have to be aware of 'world' time while I'm playing!

 

If it's that big an issue for you, you could always get one of those super thin dashboard-style clocks and velcro it to your keyboard.

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Originally posted by Byrdman:

Originally posted by Dave Horne:

I really wish manufacturers would incorporate a clock into the screen of their equipment. It would have to be on screen all the time, maybe lust a 'time' button and you can see the time.

 

I remember back in my college days playing and practicing on a pipe organ and there was usually a built in analogue clock in the wooden case.

 

Since many of us use electronic keyboards on jobs, it's really nice to be able to see the time without having to make it too obvious.

 

Just my two cents ... how much can this cost? I'll probably velcro a small digital clock to my new keyboard.

There would have to be a "bar" button as well that showed the clock as fifteen minutes fast.
Or a "remaining time till bar" button, that makes your clock indicate the remaining time until break.

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Originally posted by coyote:

I can already get the correct time from my PC, my coffeemaker, my VCR, my toaster, my oven, my car, my car radio, my telephone AND the answering machine, my TV..... oh yeah, along with every alarm clock and wall clock. PLEASE don't make me have to be aware of 'world' time while I'm playing!

Very well put. At the very least, include a "clock defeat" function! I could decide NOT to buy a synth just because it forces me to know the time evry time I'm playing, or worse, *programming* it. Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!

 

Now, we're giving instrument designers something serious to think about... :D;):)

 

Oh, and just to clarify... I do get your point, Dave. :)

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Originally posted by marino:

Originally posted by coyote:

I can already get the correct time from my PC, my coffeemaker, my VCR, my toaster, my oven, my car, my car radio, my telephone AND the answering machine, my TV..... oh yeah, along with every alarm clock and wall clock. PLEASE don't make me have to be aware of 'world' time while I'm playing!

Very well put. At the very least, include a "clock defeat" function! I could decide NOT to buy a synth just because it forces me to know the time evry time I'm playing, or worse, *programming* it. Aaaaarrrggghhh!!!

 

Now, we're giving instrument designers something serious to think about... :D;):)

 

Oh, and just to clarify... I do get your point, Dave. :)

Italian, eh? ;)

BTW, I really don't need to know the time, according to a clock, on a gig. I'm more busy with time as in pulse.

Dave, do you need it for cases where you have more gigs a day?

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Why not get one of those stick-on $10 clocks from an auto parts place? That's what preachers, organists, and public speakers often do. The only trouble is in iffy light.

 

I understand the importance of knowing the time while performing, or even while practicing. You have to know when the set's supposed to be over. I don't wear a watch any more, either, leads to too many bad habits. If I wear one, I keep looking at it.

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Dave, I understand your concern about looking at watch on stage. When I see people doing that, it always seems to look wrong, even though I can understand why they would want to know what time it is sometimes. People expect musicians to be into their music, not worried about the time!

 

I like the other poster's suggestions of buying a stick-on clock.

 

Or, a simple solution that I use: At the beginning of the set, I take off my watch and put it somewhere next to me (like on the piano) where I can see it, but the audience can't. Then I can easily glance at it without getting 'caught'.

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Originally posted by bartolomeo:

I understand the importance of knowing the time while performing, or even while practicing. You have to know when the set's supposed to be over. I don't wear a watch any more, either, leads to too many bad habits. If I wear one, I keep looking at it.

You're not one of those people who refuses to wear a watch themselves, but still wants to know the time, and so, expects someone else to wear a watch, and asks them instead, are you? :)
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I think the ideal solution would be a clock button. You press once to see the time while you hold the button down and if you double click, the time stays on screen.

 

So for those who do not want to be reminded of the time, you don't see it unless you press the button; click twice and it stays on screen.

 

I'll probably bring along the small digital clock I keep on my everyday piano.

No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message.

 

In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

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Why not include a cell phone... with speaker phone function (and vocoder, of course), and the possibility to send MIDI and audio data to your "favorite" friends... :D

Of course, you get to choose the patch and sequence to hear when the phone rings. :D:D:D

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Originally posted by Superbobus:

Italian, eh? ;)

Um, sure, why... I'm not getting the connection... let's see, Italians don't like clocks? :confused:

 

(To be sure, I love clocks and watches - I have about 15 scattered in my little apartment... I just don't like them on musical instruments! :D )

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I can already get the correct time from my PC, my coffeemaker, my VCR, my toaster, my oven, my car, my car radio, my telephone AND the answering machine, my TV....
Wow! I never met anyone that actually set the time on those things!
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Originally posted by marino:

Originally posted by Superbobus:

Italian, eh? ;)

Um, sure, why... I'm not getting the connection... let's see, Italians don't like clocks? :confused:

 

(To be sure, I love clocks and watches - I have about 15 scattered in my little apartment... I just don't like them on musical instruments! :D )

Marino, maybe you were not aware but in Europe Italians are notorius for allways being in a hurry and allways coming late.
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A clock on a coffee machine makes sense for the timer, but a toaster ...???

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

A clock on a coffee machine makes sense for the timer, but a toaster ...???

Yup. I used to think there was room to improve the toast function of toasters. You know, better heating elements which would more uniformly toast your bread... Apparently, the manufacturers don't really care about that and decided toasters need a microchip. This way, they can put fancy displays and multiple controls on it to make it look more modern or something. My new toaster has three separate levers, a digital display, and some buttons. All for two friggin' slices of bread. BTW, it doesn't seem to toast as good as my old toaster did (til it broke).

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Yea, I can well imagine that analogue toast has a warmer quality than digital toast. You could replace the original electrical cord with Monster Cable, perhaps that would be an improvement.

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

Yea, I can well imagine that analogue toast has a warmer quality than digital toast. You could replace the original electrical cord with Monster Cable, perhaps that would be an improvement.

Good point, Dave. I can hardly wait for elite 'Toastophile' debates to start. "I can taste the difference with the model XXX oxygen-free toaster cable. It eliminates digital dryness." Save me.

 

As for the keyboard clock, the last thing I want to see is some player with a keyboard flashing 12:00. I once read someone describe our houses are "The Land of Eternal Midnight", referring to all of the VCRs that never get reset.

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

I really wish manufacturers would incorporate a clock into the screen of their equipment. It would have to be on screen all the time, maybe lust a 'time' button and you can see the time.

This is a great idea....

 

As everything is getting digital, why can't they add a little extra functionality? It would be handy to have a small subset of the functionality you get on PDA's, like a clock, a timer, a phone book, and the ability to set reminders.

 

But this could add a lot of complexity to setting up a keyboard, too!

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Originally posted by rylos:

I can already get the correct time from my PC, my coffeemaker, my VCR, my toaster, my oven, my car, my car radio, my telephone AND the answering machine, my TV....
Wow! I never met anyone that actually set the time on those things!
I try to avoid having them all set at once - I find it causes blackouts.
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