Jump to content


Please note: You can easily log in to MPN using your Facebook account!

Rediscovering an "old" CD


Pat Azzarello

Recommended Posts

I rediscovered "Two Rooms" this weekend. It's the Elton John/Bernie Taupin tribute made quite a few years ago (1991). I'm not a big tribute fan, but some of the tunes here really struck me (and some were really lame).

 

I was pleasantly surprised at the gospel influenced "Don't Let The Sun Go Down on Me", Bruce Hornsby soloing and syncopated kicks on "Madman Across the Water", Greg Phillinganes piano on Clapton's rendition of Border Song (though I thought it was Bill Payne originally).

 

The other thing this little journey did for me was to question the word "Standards." I've got to say that we often use "Standard" to refer to tunes from the 40's, 50's, and rarely the 60's. However there are some great tunes from the rock era (Elton/Bernie and elsewhere) that will certainly stand the test of time.

 

Anyway, thought I'd post this and maybe motivate some people to pull out CD's they haven't listened to in a while and share with us. :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites



  • Replies 6
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Patazz,

 

>>>The other thing this little journey did for me was to question the word "Standards." I've got to say that we often use "Standard" to refer to tunes from the 40's, 50's, and rarely the 60's. However there are some great tunes from the rock era (Elton/Bernie and elsewhere) that will certainly stand the test of time.>>>

 

I'm curious, Which rock tunes from the 60's/70's would you label as standards?

No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message.

 

In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Check out Herbie Hancock´s The New Standard, for some great examples on "new standards". Jazz needs new influences in order not to stagnate, and there´s a lot of great tunes of all genres that are newer than the "standard" repertoire but with equally strong melodies and chordal arrangements. For instance, one frequently covered rock song (not on the Herbie album) is "Blackbird". I´ve also heard bands do Nirvana´s "Come as you Are", and Brad Mehldau covering Supertramp and Radiohead tunes.

 

/J :D nas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Dave Horne:

 

I'm curious, Which rock tunes from the 60's/70's would you label as standards?

I guess I'm still trying to identify some... I'm definitely open to suggestion.

 

As mentioned earlier, Blackbird is a good example, as are a number of other Beatles tunes. Billy Joel and Elton John have had a lot of tunes that could be standards. Miles did a version of "Time After Time" and even a Scritti Politti tune (though I wouldn't classify that as something that would likely be a standard).

 

I was thinking about this more last night (after my post) and started to separate "standards" into two camps:

1. Tunes where the arrangement has/can be changed with some success.

2. Tunes where the arrangement is an integral part of it being a standard.

 

"In the Mood" falls into the latter category, while "Song for my Father" is probably in the former. I'll have to think about the rock tunes some more. :confused:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Originally posted by Dave Horne:

I'm curious, Which rock tunes from the 60's/70's would you label as standards?

Plenty of Beatles songs

 

Santana recorded a few. "Black Magic Woman" (penned by Peter Green), which is just a minor blues, right? Also, I've heard the ii-V based "Europa" played as a standard.

 

Curtis Stigers has a recent album, "You Inspire Me", on which he does some clever takes on several rock/pop songs we wouldn't consider standards: Joe Jackson's "Fools In Love", The Kinks' "Tired of Waiting", among others.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CDs I've "rediscovered":

Every time I put on Kind of Blue, I always get something different out of it and hear new things. Same with Mingus Ah Um -- especially after seeing bassist Kieran Overs' Masters' colloquium on Mingus and having him show a tape from the CBC archives, I definitely got more out of Ah Um now more than ever. There was a long period of time when I couldn't stand Billy Joel's The Nylon Curtain, but now it's one of my favourites.

 

Re: new standards. Without hesitation I would put Stevie Wonder's 70s output in that category. Mehldau's covered a lot of Paul Simon tunes with great success (I do a version of "The Boxer" with my trio). Nick Drake is also someone who I've found can translate really well into jazz. Radiohead works, too -- I love Geoff Keezer's solo piano version of "Let Down" (from Zero One). Obviously the Beatles repertoire falls into that category.

 

David

My Site

Nord Electro 5D, Novation Launchkey 61, Logic Pro X, Mainstage 3, lots of plugins, fingers, pencil, paper.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...