zeronyne Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Make your very own Memorymoog Voyager. Two simple ingredients: 1) OS 2.0 for the Minimoog Voyager2) Sixteen Minimoog Voyagers Moog Music announced the next step in the evolution of the Minimoog Voyager analog synthesizer with the release of Operating System 2.0. At its heart the Voyager is a 100% pure analog synth; the newest operating system fully unleashes its modern capabilities -- including transmitting High Resolution MIDI Continuous Control messages from the Voyager's front panel, a new internal modulation matrix called "Pot Mapping", and the ability to create a polyphonic Minimoog using multiple Voyagers. Some of the new features include: Transmit MIDI Pitch Bend, Aftertouch, and CC messages from Left Hand Controller, Keyboard, Touch Surface and Front Panel Controls. New 'Master Mode' Features: -Voyager Device ID and MIDI Key Order: Allows the chaining together of up to 16 Voyagers for a monster polyphonic synth. -Velocity Curve: Adjust the velocity curves to your playing. New 'Edit Mode' Features: -Compare your sound to a Preset sound -Adjust the Pitch Bend range -Programmable Shaping Sources route control signals from the keyboard, left-hand wheels, and front panel pots to affect Modulation -Trigger filter envelope and volume envelope from Gate Sources other than the keyboard -Use the Touch Surface to instantly trigger front panel switches on/off -Map Pot Sources and Destinations in a 4x4 matrix -New 'Panel Mode' function allows you to Compare Sounds I'm going to order a Voyager Anniversary Edition this week (I got a new job)...the black color scheme hooked me finally. "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I guess that is one way to sell a few more Voyagers. A few "overly funded" artists will probably grab a few and chain them together. I wonder if Bob Moog will offer a discount for someone that picked up 6 at once to create a modern MemoryMoog? I don't know why I even asked that question. It's not like I have an extra $15K laying around. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I haven't loaded up the new software yet---it's sitting in a folder on my desktop. But yeah---I kinda wonder what sixteen Voyagers sound like. Sounds like a project for the 50th anniversary tour concerts. Stevie D? k. 9 Moog things, 3 Roland things, 2 Hammond things and a computer with stuff on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Make your very own Memorymoog Voyager. Two simple ingredients: 1) OS 2.0 for the Minimoog Voyager 2) Sixteen Minimoog Voyagers zeronyne, Why would it require 16 Voyagers? Would 6 not do the trick? Seems like the Memorymoog was 6 voice polyphonic and I remember the Moog ads when the Memorymoog was first introduced: "It's like having 6 Minimoogs!" or something like that. It would be cool if Moog would take the Voyager technology and package it in a polyphonic package. I bet it would be expensive, but surely not as expensive as buying 6 (or 16) Voyagers! Regards, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Thanks Zero, it sounds very cool (but still not enought to make me sell my SE-1 for a Voyager... too expensive! ) So, while we're saving to buy those sixteen Voyagers, what about designing a fantasy Memorymoog Voyager? (You know, five-octave keyboard, large panel similar to the Voyager's, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by eric: zeronyne, Why would it require 16 Voyagers? Would 6 not do the trick? Regards, EricI was just being facetious...I was adjusting for inflation (and the limit of the new OS)...I figured that 6 in the 70's should be at least 16 in the 00's. I'm still considering buying 7 more Pulses to make a polypulse. They still go for $300, though. When they drop to $150, I may do it. "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peake Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 A six-voice Voyager would be an amazing thing. Give me the ANALOG and no one gets HURT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by zeronyne: I was just being facetious...I was adjusting for inflation (and the limit of the new OS)...I figured that 6 in the 70's should be at least 16 in the 00's. They limited it to 16? For a moment there I was considering this option. But for just 16 voices ... well I'll pass. Best, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I downloded 2.0 a couple of weeks ago and made comments on another thread. Voy-agee I'm almost thinking of selling my original mini as I never use it any more. And since I've already have a Memorymoog which sounds much different then a mini or Voyager ( a good thing if you own both), a single Voyager does it for me. With 2.0 it is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthmatic Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Not to spread any rumors, but since the actual voice card of the Voyager is small enough to fit in a 1 rack unit, the possibility of a Voyager expander seems likely. I thought that this was going to happen at WNAMM '04. We'll just wait 'n' see if this ever happens. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Hmmm... I'm almost thinking of buying one Originally posted by Markyboard: I'm almost thinking of selling my original mini as I never use it any more. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humannoyed Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I have been thinking of starting a thread called "Bob Moog's next move". We all want him to do well.I think most would agree an affordable poly-voyager would be great. I honestly think that with Dr. Moog's name recogntion he could easily do enough pre-sells of poly-voyagers to universities around the world to warrant the feasibility. This linking of a bunch of mini voyagers together could be just a good assurance demonstration of what they would be getting, only repackaged and more affordable. "It is a danger to create something and risk rejection. It is a greater danger to create nothing and allow mediocrity to rule." "You owe it to us all to get on with what you're good at." W.H. Auden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 You know guys there is this technique introduced a few years ago called "multi-tracking." You record one monophonic track, then another, etc. Yes, it does take six times longer to record a six note chord, but it costs 1/6th as much. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Originally posted by Synthmatic: Not to spread any rumors, but since the actual voice card of the Voyager is small enough to fit in a 1 rack unit, the possibility of a Voyager expander seems likely. I thought that this was going to happen at WNAMM '04. We'll just wait 'n' see if this ever happens.I don't know what you're refering to as the "voice card" (seeing as we're talking about a synth built with descrete components) but if you've ever opened up a Voyager you'll see that the electronics go the entire length of the front panel, roughly 28" X 9". I don't see how that would fit into a one space rack. Certainly the elimination of the pots/front panel would reduce the size if it was redesigned, but we're not talking about simply flipping this thing on its side and fitting it into a rack. Studio Electronics with the Omega 8 was able to get eight individual synths into a (deep) rack unit, but they felt a three osc/voice version would be not be feasible. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthmatic Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I was referring to the circuit board that contains the synth itself: LFO, Oscillators, Mixer,Filters, Amps and Envelope Generators.The front panel controls go through A/D converters then to the uProcessor circuitry after which the processor sends the proper data to the D/A converter which is then sent to the synth card. No audio signals or control voltages go through the front panel controls as in the original Mini. So all that is needed for a rack unit is: a simple interface, a processor board and the voice board. You would not need a lot of knobs since you could use a Voyager or a MIDI knob box to program it. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Yes, I took a look at mine again. The main analog circuit board would fit but I presume you would need the "digital-analog" board next to it to do MIDI-to-analog and the power supply. If they were laid out flat, that would be one big case. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthmatic Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 There would be room to stack two boards, so some room would be saved that way. If Moog could have used Surface Mount Technology, there could have been a table top Voyager. I e-mailed Bob a few years back if he was going to use SMT in the Voyager and his reply was that the main analog and digital circuit boards were going to be surface mount becuase, among several reasons, space, ease of machine assembly, reliability, and availability of components (Many components are no longer available in through-hole packages, or they're more expensive than surface mount components.) So I was surprised to see through-hole components inside. I guess the SMT did not work out after all or the prospect of repairing them did not look good. A good use of SMT is in Dave Smith's Evolver. In fact new PolyEvolver is only going to be 6 inches deep! That's good for 4 voice analog/digital synth. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resigned Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 That's why I like VST's. You want a polyphonic Minimoog without spending a fortune? No problem: http://www.arturia.com/en/minimoogv.lasso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fiala Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Exactly: check out the new arturia minimoog VST... less than $250, no parts to wear out, stable tuning, polyphonic, and Bob Moog and Jean-Micehl Jarre say it sounds "right". It's on order for me. Tom F. "It is what it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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