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Dave Horne

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I saw an ad here re the CreepNoMore pedal base. I found it at one site with a photo.

 

Musician-Center

 

It appears to be just a strip of material - rubber or plastic. For the price of $15 (plus S&H), I can buy enough material to make my own and some for my friends.

 

This reminds me of a Roland (or Yamaha) pedal I have that has a piece of rubber that slides out from under the pedal. I owned that pedal for many years before I realized that the purpose was to keep the pedal from sliding.

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Originally posted by Dave Horne:

This reminds me of a Roland (or Yamaha) pedal I have that has a piece of rubber that slides out from under the pedal. .

That's a Roland DP-6. It's been around for years, and has been my live sustain pedal of choice specifically because of this feature.

 

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I'm ultimately gonna have to do something about my pedals. Under the MK80 I have a wah, a volume, a piano sustain, and a sustain for the QS71. Since I stand when I play and sometimes I'm on a sustain while reaching across to the Hammond or JP8000, those pedals tend to slide.

 

I guess the solution is either a rubber mat or piece of carpet with a strip of wood across the back, unless I decide to go the "mounted pedalboard" route (unlikely).

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Originally posted by Roland Genske:

The Roland DP 8 pedal shown on the same page has such thing already "built-in", a thick rubber covering the pedal's bottom fixed at the front which can be flapped. You can then rest your heel on it.

Hey - they changed the model number!

 

I wonder if there's any difference between that and a DP-6 - it looks the same...

 

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I had the same "pedal creep" problem. It got to be so annoying that a threw together a quick homemade pedal board. Just a piece of plywood with rubber feet that's sized to fit between the legs of my "X" style keyboard stand. So far I've mounted a sustain pedal, two channel volume pedal, and a power strip.

 

I'm planning on making up a new pedal board (a little nicer) using velcro and a piece of carpet for mounting the pedals. I'd like to add a switch for changing leslie speed and maybe one more sustain pedal. The idea is to keep most of my instrument cables with the pedal board, and save set-up time. Furman makes a nice pedal board but at about $200+...

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Hey, who you callin' a pedal creep?!!!

 

Beware the pedalboard. I made a lovely one 15 years or so ago. Covered with a cheap but exotic looking 'Persian' (via Kmart) rug, all the pedals bolkted on perfectly.

 

BUT...

 

if the stage floor wasn't perfectly flat, the whole thing woud spin like a top. Had to make tie-downs to attach to the keyboard stand legs. THAT fixed it.

 

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What - you didn't put rubber feet on the bottom???

 

Originally posted by Dasher:

if the stage floor wasn't perfectly flat, the whole thing woud spin like a top. Had to make tie-downs to attach to the keyboard stand legs. THAT fixed it.

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I also made a pedal board that really cuts down on my setup time. I mount two sustain pedals a Tube Rotosphere and a volume pedal on the front part and then a couple of power strips on the back. That way the stuff can be left plugged in, and I put little pieces of tape on the ends so that I will know what cord goes where. I then had a custom cover made for it that cost me about $50 from www.lecover.com. It kind of looks like a bag that a pizza delivery guy uses, and my board slides in and out.
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We use a rack the right height for a keyboard stand (can't find a solid stand that goes up that high, playing-while-standing height), which is cool because you can wheel around the rack/stand with the keys (MP9000, heavy!) on top. The pedal board is the rack panel on the back- pedals are mounted to the inside, and all plugged in. All the cables that go from the rack to the keys are twist-tied together into two little snakes, one from the back of the rack, some of which goes from there to the pedal board, and one from the front of the rack. Pretty slick, I do think- unlatch the back of the rack and put it on the floor, plug in the two "snakes" to the keyboard, and a pretty-complicated set-up is easy to set-up and tear down, not a lot of thinking involved. Future improvement will be to have the power of everything on the rack all in one big power connector. As it is there's a few line-lumps and wall warts complicating things. If there weren't audio going to and from the pedal board (analog volume pedal for organ module output), I'd just mount the wall warts on the pedal board. They emit a hum field, so they can't be in the rack or near the audio lines.

 

All what's on that pedal board- damper pedal for MP9000, locking sustain pedal for MP9000, sustain pedal for organ module, leslie speed switch for organ module, volume pedal for organ module audio output. You can imagine what a mess it was- very tidy on the pedal board, and everything's right where you left it.

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haha.. funny, this thread.. just yesterday I got so pissed off over this, couldn't find any double sided velcro, got myself a wood skrew and a power-drill and my pedal is now attached directly to the hard-wood floor... not ideal I know but it's not going anywhere :)

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Originally posted by Dave Bryce:

Originally posted by Roland Genske:

The Roland DP 8 pedal shown on the same page has such thing already "built-in", a thick rubber covering the pedal's bottom fixed at the front which can be flapped. You can then rest your heel on it.

Hey - they changed the model number!

 

I wonder if there's any difference between that and a DP-6 - it looks the same...

 

dB

The new one (DP8) is capable of half-damper.
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Originally posted by jimw:

I hadn't noticed it before, but I just had a creepnomore.com banner ad show up at the top of this forum. :rolleyes:

 

Coincidence? Or, really good marketing? :D

No coincidence. I saw the ad, looked at the product online and started this post as a result.

No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message.

 

In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

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Is the DP8 you're using different from mine? I've got a whole stack of them here and, while they have nice rubber feet, they don't have one of those big flap out bottoms to hold it in place with your foot like some of those older ones (i think the DP6)

 

The cool feature of the DP8 is that you can flick a thing on the side and change it from a switch pedal to continuous controller, designed for the 'half pedal' piano feature but also cool for other stuff. While most people would use an expression pedal like the EV5, i've actually found using the DP8 works real well for some stuff - like wah on a clav sound! It's harder to control smoothly, but if ur using it quite fast...

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Korg has a new sustain pedal out that has a really nice rubber buttom which I could not make slip on any surface I tried (glass, wood, carpet). I also has a switch for continuous or switched. Expensive, street price is $50+. The other thing is I believe Roland and Yamaha use the same reversed setup so the Korg is incompatible with them.

 

Roland also has a new pedal which feels better than the old one but lacks the flip out pad.

 

Creep-no-more. I wanted to try one so I called the number, left a message and he called me back only to say he only sells through resellers (Musiciansfriend online, local shops). Nice enough guy, but it's funny that he's spent so much on advertising (web, Keyboard, etc) and then has the world's worst website giving you no real info about the product or how to purchase it.

 

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Originally posted by burningbusch:

Korg has a new sustain pedal out that has a really nice rubber buttom which I could not make slip on any surface I tried (glass, wood, carpet). I also has a switch for continuous or switched. Expensive, street price is $50+. The other thing is I believe Roland and Yamaha use the same reversed setup so the Korg is incompatible with them.

 

Roland also has a new pedal which feels better than the old one but lacks the flip out pad.

 

Creep-no-more. I wanted to try one so I called the number, left a message and he called me back only to say he only sells through resellers (Musiciansfriend online, local shops). Nice enough guy, but it's funny that he's spent so much on advertising (web, Keyboard, etc) and then has the world's worst website giving you no real info about the product or how to purchase it.

 

Busch.

Forgive this dumb question, but what would the continuous feature do for a sustain pedal?

No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message.

 

In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

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Ever since I switched to the Standtastic stand, I keep my equipment rack in between its legs, and my two sustain pedals simply butt up against the front of the rack (bottom rackmount item is an EQ with a safety cage over it, so no harm done). No duct tape, no sliding, only problem was that the sustain pedal cord for the top keyboard ended up being 3" too short :mad: but that's fixed now.

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What - you didn't put rubber feet on the bottom???

 

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Originally posted by Dasher:

if the stage floor wasn't perfectly flat, the whole thing woud spin like a top. Had to make tie-downs to attach to the keyboard stand legs. THAT fixed it.

Dasher

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Rubber feet (yes, I did try them) lifted the whole rig just enough so the sustain pedal was flakey. If I had thought of it, I could have added one under the pedal, I guess. Also didn't really prevent it all that much from sliding. I like the idea of drilling a hole in the floor and bolting the pedal to it. Works great on those one-nighters in client's houses (honey, was this hole in the livingroom hardwood floor here before the party? hee hee...

 

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Originally posted by burningbusch:

Korg has a new sustain pedal out that has a really nice rubber buttom which I could not make slip on any surface I tried (glass, wood, carpet). .

How did you get this to work? There is no way I can get mine to stick to the window.
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