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OT Buddy Rich ... a seminar on how to inspire musicians


Dave Horne

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I have a link at my web site to the following ... Buddy Rich - A Passion Play

 

It's been a while since I listened to it, but it's worth a listen. If the F word bothers you, you might not like it.

 

Amazing.

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I saw him and his band back in (I think) 1989. I still remember several things from that night. He played like no one else. It was incredible. The band could blow! Except for the 1st tenor, everybody was very young and gooood. Also, it looked like his bass player was actually afraid of him. He was close enough to Buddy to be his conjoined twin. And when buddy would cut his eyes at the boy, it looked like the boy would flinch.

 

And, finally, during an extended drum solo a member of the audience started calling out encouragement - "Go Buddy!, etc. Buddy stopped playing, cussed the guy out, and started back playing as if nothing had happened. We were quiet and attentive.

 

It was an education! I'm still a fan of Buddy, but it left me a little shaken.

David
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A friend of mine played bass with Buddy toward the very end ('86 or '87). Rob never really talked to me about Buddy's antics.

 

Legend has it that in Chicago (must have been early 80's) he fired his bass player an hour or so before the gig . They called one of the first call session guys in and he pretty much walked on stage without looking at the book (didn't have time). After the second tune (and a lot of stares from Buddy), Buddy got up and said: "Thank you. Now if we could just get a bass player who could read music we'd be worth your applause." The bass player got up and left.

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I watched James Brown fire a guy on stage a few years ago. Right in the middle of a tune, James turned around a motioned something. The player hung his head, slung his guitar around his back, and left the stage.

 

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I watched James Brown fire a guy on stage a few years ago. Right in the middle of a tune, James turned around a motioned something. The player hung his head, slung his guitar around his back, and left the stage.

 

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Re Buddy Rich, there was a joke many years ago (I assume it was a joke). A musician would call Buddy's wife after Buddy had died and asked if Buddy would want to work since he had a job for him. She naturally replied that Buddy had just died.

 

This goes on a few times and Buddy's wife starts yelling at the guy, 'I keep telling you that Buddy is dead and yet you keep calling'. The caller replies, 'yea, I know, I just like to hear you say that he's really dead. ... or something like that.

No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message.

 

In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments.

 

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The last time I saw Buddy was at the Blue Note, on his last tour thru NY. He spent the entire gig yelling at the piano player: "Play the f#ckin' TIME, dammit!"

 

The first time I (then age 12) ever saw him was at the local high school. It was a GREAT show, and I'd gone with my drum instructor who knew Buddy so we went on the bus afterward and emerged an hour later quite stoned :) There was no yelling that day.

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child star (highly paid since age 3)

 

genius>artistic temperment

 

rat-pack era conciousness

 

lots of amphetamines and booze

 

not much if any inner-reflective activity

 

not held back by moral or emotional considerations

 

fucking great musician

 

glad I was not in his band - I would have lasted about 2 minutes - but he inspired me a lot as a kid and raised the bar for the artform about 20 notches

 

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A drummer who I played big band stuff with in high school was a Buddy wannabe. He has his sctick down. An amazing drummer in his own right. He had printed BRIAB on all his drum cases. It stood for "Buddy Rich Isn't Any Better". :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by edmann:

child star (highly paid since age 3)

 

genius>artistic temperment

 

rat-pack era conciousness

 

lots of amphetamines and booze

 

not much if any inner-reflective activity

 

not held back by moral or emotional considerations

 

fucking great musician

 

glad I was not in his band - I would have lasted about 2 minutes - but he inspired me a lot as a kid and raised the bar for the artform about 20 notches

 

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Amen, brother. There are less and less of these types today - they're all dying off.
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Originally posted by area51recording:

Did Buddy really fire a guy right off the stage (I think it was supposed to be at Ronnie Scott's in London) or is that one of them musical urban legends?

In this case the bass player walked off the stage (Buddy didn't fire him), but these stories tend to take on a life of their own over time anyway...

 

Just a note - This wasn't Rob Amster, a musician friend of mine who was Buddy's last bass player.

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