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Kurzweil VA1


MortenJ

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I want to know how that thing sounds! It looks good. I like the look of the layout just from the pics that Jeebs posted. It'll be interesting to see how it sells given the saturated market as some one else mentioned.
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It looks like another Andromeda, a programmer's dream machine. Now, if they did what Alesis did and gave its filters some gene splicing from a few established analog archetypes, they have a winner.
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Originally posted by MortenJ:

I just read that it can have 2 PAUs Effects per part So what is PAU?

 

Also head it cost between 1500-1700$

 

I will try it out in Frankfurt Musikmesse.

"Processor Allocation Unit" it's a fixed amount of CPU load per effect process and defines the number of FX routines you can run at any time per FX buss.

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I will be very interested in this synth if three things are true about the final release:

 

1. there are a wide variety of filtertypes, and I do not mean just topologies, but actual flavors a la the ION.

 

2. the internal update rate for internal parameters is better than the piss-poor 50Hz of the K2000/2500 and 100Hz of the K2600...and when I say better, I mean that stuff needs to be fast...after all, VAs from other manufacturers from 4-5 years ago updated their internal control signals at audio rates and per-sample rates.

 

3. the effects bus structure is such that the total PAUs can be distributed across the 4 parts as desired...4x2, 2x4, 1x8, 1x4 + 2x2, etc...and that a wide selection of effects from the KSP-8 are present. in particular, if this point proves to be true, it will fire a GAS attack that will be incapacitating.

 

And Kurzweil...if you make a tabletop, make it like an Obie Xpander in terms of form factor!! ;)

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The VA-1's that Kurz have at NAMM only have a few sounds programmed in them. There's still lots to do before it's ready for market IMO, but Kurz told me it'll be in the stores by June, at $2300. No parmeter will be more than a push-and-turn (the knobs are all digital rotary encoders with built-in push switches). Nice! :thu:

 

Kurz are looking for a name for it. They don't seem to like the VA-1 designation. I suggested they have a name contest. Let's hear your ideas....

 

BTW, Access Music would neither confirm or deny the existance of a new synth....

 

Cheers for now, let me see if X

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One can only hope. I've become totally dependent on the ExpMate; I use the ribbon in four songs and use the program change functions to set up my entire rig for each tune with the push of a single button. I'd truly be lost without it, and I know one day in the distant future it will finally die.... it'll be good if a replacement exists when that happens.

 

Originally posted by Marzzz:

Hmmm.....couldn't help but notice that "ribbon" input. Perhaps an ExpressionMate II is in the works??

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Originally posted by aeon:

ack, the PAUs are fixed, 2 PAUs per channel...or so is the word at this time. :(

One from kurzweil said it have the ability to loop-back via external inputs if you want more.

Morten

 

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yeah, but how much of a kludge is that?

 

allow for internal loopbacking...after all, the Access Virus has done this for years now! :D

 

or better yet, allow for more flexible PAU routing, and jack up the PAU total!

 

one of the reasons the Virus has been the success it has been, aside from the sound of its most-excellent filter, is the fact that it has a wealth of channel effects that are not per-voice, but per-channel, and you not only get these across 16 channels, but you get lots of them per channel.

 

this is not to say any one of those effects are equal to what an average 2 PAU KSP-8 effect offers, but if Kurzweil really wants to succeed in a market that is saturated with virtual analogues, at that price point, in this economy, with the softsynth and computer-based audio processed revolution going on, I think it would be wise for them to make a definitive market statement in terms of the VA1s power.

 

right now, the numbers seem a little weak if they think the VA1 will be seen as a clear winner as compared to other alternatives currently on offer, especially given the realities of the used market.

 

16 voices was the standard 5 years ago, as was having effects on only 4 channels, and only having 4 channels period.

 

Kurz says they want to compete on the high end, but the numbers do not reflect that. SuperNova II can have 48 voices, the Q+ has (100 potential, ~60 in use)...SuperNova offers more channels of effects...Q+ offers real analog filters...

 

and yeah, I know that doesnt address issues of sound...but if I put the marketing weasel hat on, right now the Kurz VA1 seems somewhat half-hearted given a release that is 6-12 months away.

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Originally posted by aeon:

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16 voices was the standard 5 years ago, as was having effects on only 4 channels, and only having 4 channels period.

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Yep. You are describing the Nord Lead 2 but without effects. Now $999 will get you a Nord Lead 2X keyboard, 20 voices, 4 channels and good sound. If you want to charge twice that you better have something special. Something that can compete with the Virus C (or maybe D in a few months?) or the Nord Modular G2.

 

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I agree about the specs. But I'd defer judgement until I've heard it. The K series was always backward on polyphony, but was still a unique, desirable synth. Ditto for the nord modular, which had (gulp) no effects. I'd think that if the VA-1 is truly a high level (sounding) and unique (sounding) VA, users will work around the polyphony issues, perhaps by investing in outboard gear. I am dissapointed by the non-additivity of the PAU's. I guess it's a bit like their fixed "196 DSP oscillator" structure in the K series.

 

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Jerry

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