Dan South Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Can EXS24, HALion, Kontakt, etc. access Giga's dimensions?? Enquiring minds want to know. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted September 9, 2003 Share Posted September 9, 2003 Ah...the Big Question. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 In Giga, dimensions is a catch-all term. In all you have 32 dimensions available. If you set up an instrument using stereo samples, that uses a dimension. Velocity splits take up dimensions. Obviously all of the major soft samplers allow stereo and velocity splits. I think, though, you are referring to key/controller switching, which also uses dimensions. With key switching you essentially have multiple sampled instruments (usually variations of the same instrument) loaded and you can instantly switch between them by pressing a key or moving a controller. I don't know EXS24 much at all. I don't see mention of it at the emagic site. Both Halion and Kontakt support key and controller switching. Halion's is the most sophisticated of the two allowing you to setup fairly complex arrangements of this controller and that key, this controller or that controller, etc. Kontakt's is more basic, either a key switch range or controller. Now whether the Giga import feature of these program will properly import key switching is another question. I've done more conversion into Kontakt and in general it has worked quite well. I also use CDxtract for conversions. In general, Halion is a better direct replacement for Giga and should, in theory, do the best job of converting and playing back complex Giga files. Like Giga, Halion allows you to do some serious manipulation of filter and envelope settings at the sample level. It seems to be architected similar to Giga in this regard. In Kontakt, filters and envelope settings are done at the instrument and/or group level. While you could setup a group for each zone (sample) and then apply a filter and envelope to each, this would be extremely messy to program and I think CPU intensive. Additionally, like Giga, Halion supports MIDI program change so you can pull in a bunch of instruments and quickly switch between them. On the negative side for Halion, I find that it takes quite a bit more RAM even when set to minimum 1 sec preload for streaming instruments. Kontakt can load the same instrument in about 50-60% of the RAM. Playback of streaming instruments works well with both samplers. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleen Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Originally posted by burningbusch: I don't know EXS24 much at all. I don't see mention of it at the emagic site. EXS24mkII recording/mix guy don gunn.com myspace.com/dongunnmusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted September 10, 2003 Share Posted September 10, 2003 Bleen sorry, what I should have said is I don't see mention of key/controller switching within the EXS24 info at the emagic site. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 SteadyB??? The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 The EXS definitely supports key switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 Thanks!!!! EXS rules! (Kontakt isn't too shabby, either.) The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Yellowtools also gives away a windows program called Keyswitch , which enables keyswitching with any soft-sampler. Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 Doug, Thanks for sharing your Weather Report review. Mysterious Traveler is one of my favorites; I'll have to check out the re-issue. Two corrections. The keyboardist's name is spelled "Zawinul", not "Zawinal", and he used Arps (2600's), not Moogs. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The short answer is yes. I do programming in all the major sample formats and actually Halion, Kontakt and EXS have passed Giga by leaps and bounds. First you are not limited by the number of keyswitches of dimensions that you want to have which is very nice especially when you are doing things that require as many velocity splits as drums. Throw in stability and it's hands down for me which I like to program in..... dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Dworsky Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Hi . Is Kontakt available yet for Mac OSX and as RTAS plug in ? Thanks ! Richard Dworsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Not yet but they're next on the schedule. Should be soon. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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