zenriderplayer Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 anyone have any good recommendations for someone who is an amateur keyboardist and wants to buy something. I am looking for something that has analog capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleen Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 (bleen sits back, pops open a cold one and waits for the fun to start....) recording/mix guy don gunn.com myspace.com/dongunnmusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Carlito joins Bleen, with a big bowl of ice cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogaddict Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Aww, come on guys, don´t be cruel! Zenriderplayer, please tell us more about your preferences; 61, 76 or 88 keys, and for instance when you say "analog capabilities", do you mean "sounding like an analog synthesizer" or many analog outputs? The more details we get, the more help we can give you. you might also want to do a search, this topic comes around from time to time (hence the sarcasm... we´re basically nice people!) Welcome to the forum! /J nas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Pure analog is expensive so you might want to consider a virtual analog (VA). For a first VA look at the Novation KS4. It has plenty of knobs and sliders to make programming easy. It also has enough polyphony that you can layer patches or use it as a multi-tembre sound source. It is cheap compaired to many other VA's with the same specs. The other recommendation I would have is to see if you can find a used Roland JP8000. Either of these units are laid out logically and will be good to learn the art of programming your own patches. The Alesis Ion is out but I don't know that the panel is good for first time users. Not with eg's sharing the same set of knobs. The Korg MS2000 is OK but only has 4 note polyphony. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phait Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Ok what's the diff between pure analog and virtual analog keyboard? I mean, I know the difference of an analog clock to a digital clock so I kinda get the idea.. but I'm confused o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Originally posted by Phait: Ok what's the diff between pure analog and virtual analog keyboard? Simple: Pure, or real, analog is simply 'analog'. Virtual analog (VA) are digital instruments set to mimic (model) the behavior of analog. There's great debate about their grade of success in doing so. All features being equal, VA is generally less expensive than analog. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Examples of each. Analog - MiniMoog, Moog Voyager, Alesis Andromeda, Prophet 5 VA - Novation KS4, Access Virus, Clavia Nord Modular, Alesis Ion This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Here's some advice . 2 type's of keyboards ...one's with speakers and one's without speakers . If your just starting out , a keyboard with speakers may be the best bet . Some keyboards with speakers have some good sounds, but you need to spend $400.00 to get them imo . Look at a Yamaha DGX300 (76 keys) or DGX500 (88keys) or the Casio WK3000 or WK3500 respectively . If you need 88 keys , same thing apply's .... with or without speakers . Right now when you walk into a music store, you can find a decent selection of piano's with speakers for under $900.00 . Casio PS20 , Yamaha P60 and more . If you need some more help , you can email me privately . Dano www.esnips.com/web/SongsfromDanO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 Originally posted by Dano: Casio WK3000 or WK3500 respectively Aaaaacccckkkkkk..... Noooooooo.... Dano, are you actually Skyy38?????? dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 dB, I had to do it . Casio is using smart media cards and everything !Even simulated drawbars ! Yamaha is my favorite Ravens Defense ! www.esnips.com/web/SongsfromDanO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phait Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 lol.. I think I get it, thanks. btw.. I was looking for my 1990's Yamaha board, couldn't find it, but.. I read Yamaha has been around since 1887 making reed organs! Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loxley11 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Phait, Here's a slightly more in depth answer to your question; I didn't know the difference at first either. I hope I don't sound patronizing if you already know the basics of this stuff, but I'm sure somewhere out there this will at least be useful to someone. When someone refers to an analog keyboard, what they're talking about is the circuitry. An analog synth has discrete circuits, and I don't mean that they keep a low profile! They're described as linear, and they generate linear waveforms; they can transmit an infinite number of voltages between "off" and "full power" (just like the second hand on an analog watch passes an infinite number of time values between 5 seconds and 10 seconds.) Think "continuous." Digital synths (of which Virtual Analog synths are a subclass) use integrated circuits, which for our purposes are either only "on" or "off". Because of this property they are described as nonlinear and generate nonlinear waveforms (a digital watch only displays five values between 5 and 10 seconds). Think "quantized." Now that I've explained more than most musicians will (or ought to) care about, you're thinking so what? The reason why people are willing to pay so much more for real analog equipment than their digital simulator counterparts is that our ears generally (and I'd like to emphasize the generally for all you digital afficionados out there) find linear (analog) waveforms more--I don't want to say more pleasing than nonlinear (digital) ones, because that's not always the case--more "natural" sounding and digital ones more "artificial." Whew! there, I hope that helps Drew "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" -Mike Tyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Phait: Ok what's the diff between pure analog and virtual analog keyboard? About $2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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