Mahrcelo Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hello! I'm form Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I'm new in the forum. I have a Kurzweil PC88mx for using in live performance and I'm looking for a smaller, cheaper and portable keyboard to use in smaller shows and trials. I would need good Rhodes sounds and pianos... I was thinking to buy an used JV30 or XP10? I know the JV30 is a better made keyboard, but are the sound quality (pianos) in the same line of the XP10? Any suggestion will be welcome... Thanks, Marcelo L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 A JV30 is about the same as the original Sound Canvas. Nothing spectacular. Too bad you're not in the USA - we've got a JV30 that just sits around and never really gets used. BTW, welcome to the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I would recommend an XP-50 or XP-80 if you're looking for a used (previously owned) Roland Keyboard. Either one would be much better than the models that you listed. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 I don't think the JV-30 or the XP-10 have good Rhodes or piano sounds, not authentic like the vintage instruments. Their piano and Rhodes sound digital, shrill and thin. The Korg XD5, O1W or the Yamaha S03 or S30 have the better piano and Rhodes sounds. Or the SP Kurzweil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyS Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 welcome to the forum. Xp-10 and vj-30 don't have a good piano and Rhodes sound (as said). i would recomment the same as Dan (maybe even a xp-30). Or what petros said the Yam S03 or S30. Petros, do you really think the korgs have a good piano?? I wouldn't go for the Korg X5d or 01w though, i think their piano is crap. Well maybe they are useable in live situations Rudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Between the XP10 and the JV30, the JV30 is much more ruggedly constructed. I think the XP-10 may be one of the most flimsily built instruments I've ever seen... Despite the misleading "XP" in the XP-10, I believe they're both basically Sound Canvases... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted August 12, 2003 Share Posted August 12, 2003 Marcelo, welcome to the forum. If you like Kurzweil, you might consider their new KME61 (I'm not sure if I have the name right). It's the keyboard version of the ME-1 MicroEnsemble, which I have, and it has excellent piano and Rhodes sounds, plus many others. In a sense, it's the successor to the PC88 soundset. Cons: the keys are not very strong. Alternatively, you could consider a MicroEnsemble (half-rack) MIDIed to any keyboard. Also from Kurzweil there's the SP76 - much lighter than the PC88 (or the new PC2), the sounds are similar, I believe. Other ideas: A Proteus keys, a Yamaha CS2x or CS6x. If you mainly need Rhodes and have the money, you could consider a Nord Electro. Both 61 and 76 keys versions are very light, it has excellent Rhodes and Hammond. The weak link is the acoustic piano - it's very weak. What about an Electro plus a MicroEnsemble for pianos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Mahrcelo, welcome! First of all, what's your budget? If you only need good pianos and Rhodes and no synth stuff, a P120 or P90 (Yamaha) will do. The P120 has the best Rhodes emulator in a compact and relatively cheap package. But you're talking XP10, which is cheaper. Other suggestions are an XP30 with a '70s keys plugin or a (second hand) Yamaha CS2x or CS6x. I have both the P120 and the CS6x and they are capable of great Rhodes, Wurli and clavinet sounds. Pianos on the CS6x suck. http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hey Superbobus, have you played dthe P90 Rhodes? It's different than the P120 Rhodes, much more "Dyno" bell tone with an obvious switch point. I like the darker more authentic vintage Rhodes EP2 sound in the P120.(I defeat Brightness, set Touch to Soft and select the Delay Effect to fatten it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hey Petros, right before I packed up my p80 to ship it to its new home I tried your brightness suggestion on ep2. I moved the britghtness slider full left, set touch on hard to defeat the switchpoint and cut down the 'bark' with hard strikes of the key, and it seemed to improve the sound. Maybe that works on a p90. "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by petros: Hey Superbobus, have you played dthe P90 Rhodes? It's different than the P120 Rhodes, much more "Dyno" bell tone with an obvious switch point. I like the darker more authentic vintage Rhodes EP2 sound in the P120.(I defeat Brightness, set Touch to Soft and select the Delay Effect to fatten it.)Hmmm, than I don't regret buying a P120... http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Tales Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I used to own a JV35 which was the better version of the JV30 series. I thought this was a pretty crappy keyboard until I added the VE-JV-1 expansion board. This addition really brought that keyboard to life. I don't think the JV30 is expandable, so don't waste your money. "I'm not a monkey anymore..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahrcelo Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions... I think I'll go for a JV80... has and affordable price here in BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 The JV80 is a big step up from the JV30 IMO, and you should be much happier with the 80 than the 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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