Krakit Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 I haven't posted anything in a couple of days now. I just responded to a thread and I got the flood protection warning, not once but twice! What exactly are the parameters of this so called protection and how can they be changed? Have we ever had any problems with posters flooding the board before that we need this protection? Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 If it's set up properly, it's supposed to limit a user from reposting the same reply multiple times, for example if you double-clicked the Add Reply button. What I *think* is going on here is that they set up the flood protection globally when they moved the forums to the new servers. That means that if ANY forum member has posted in the last thirty seconds and you try to post something, you'll get the dreaded flood protection message. Yoo-hoo! Is there a webmaster in the house? The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Originally posted by Dan South: ... What I *think* is going on here is that they set up the flood protection globally when they moved the forums to the new servers. That means that if ANY forum member has posted in the last thirty seconds and you try to post something, you'll get the dreaded flood protection message. ...Hmmm. That could explain why I got the message earlier even though I had not posted anything in an hour or more. And yes, I HAVE gone an hour today without making a post. I was in a meeting. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Guys...it's a glitch. It's not there purposefully. They are trying to fix it. But when you go from a Unix to a Windows server (as has been done here), it's amazing there weren't a lot more and worse glitches than this. Hopefully, they'll find a fix. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Originally posted by Jeff the Weasel: ...But when you go from a Unix to a Windows server (as has been done here), it's amazing there weren't a lot more and worse glitches than this....You are so right. I have both a Windows NT and AIX(UNIX) servers. Every time I see that Dell commercial where one guy tells the other how awful it must be to be confined to a proprietary UNIX server I don't know if I should laugh at the commercial, or cry for people who believe and dump their UNIX servers for Windows. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 They're calling UNIX proprietary? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Well technically UNIX is proprietary (AIX, IRIX, etc), but when did Windows become anything but proprietary? Now Dell sells a lot of Linux also. Maybe the add for was Linux servers? http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Do more with less eh? Maybe we should change it to: do (post) less with more (errors). http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by progfusion74: Well technically UNIX is proprietary (AIX, IRIX, etc), but when did Windows become anything but proprietary? Now Dell sells a lot of Linux also. Maybe the add for was Linux servers?The ad is for Windows boxes. And I totally agree with Robert when I see it. I kinda feel sorry for the admins of this site. I'm not really evangelical about any particular OS (I've used plenty of them), but when you are already running a system based on any *NIX flavor, switching to Windows is never a good thing. This decision was probably made based on Layer 8 reasons. Sysadmins, if you're reading this, hang in there boys. We feel your pain. --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 UNIX is proprietary? Really? Well, I guess that shoots down the whole "open systems" concept, doesn't it? What were we thinking? The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by Dan South: UNIX is proprietary? Really? Well, I guess that shoots down the whole "open systems" concept, doesn't it? What were we thinking? Most forms of UNIX are not open. Many people confuse Linux and UNIX. Not the same thing . http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Originally posted by progfusion74: Originally posted by Dan South: UNIX is proprietary? Really? Well, I guess that shoots down the whole "open systems" concept, doesn't it? What were we thinking? Most forms of UNIX are not open. Many people confuse Linux and UNIX. Not the same thing .Yeah, well, I've been a UNIX guy since 1987, so no confusion on my part. UNIX was the first portable operating system. It could run almost any hardware platform. Prior to UNIX, an operating system was written for ONE hardware platform. To put that into perspective, when Intel went from the 286 to the 386, Microsoft would have had to rewrite DOS and Windows from the ground up to run them on the 386 chip had they not adopted the UNIX portability idea. How UNIX achieved this was nothing short of a stroke of genius. Instead of writing UNIX in machine language specific to a given processor, the inventors of UNIX wrote it in a high level language called 'C'. Then, all they had to do was write a program that could compile 'C' programs on each new computer processor, compile all of the UNIX source code, and voilà, UNIX was ready to run on the new hardware. 'C' became a standard for software developers. C++ and Java, widely used today, are offshoots of the venerable 'C' language invented in 1971 by Dennis Ritchie of Bell Labs. UNIX was written by his colleague, Ken Thompson. Thompson and Ritchie collaborated on the original translation of UNIX to 'C' language. UNIX was designed as an "open" system, because the inventors wanted it to become a standard. Any new hardware vendor could license the software, write suitable compilers and drivers, and have UNIX available on their hardware platform in short order. UNIX established a long list of open standards, many of which we still use today. FTP. UUCP. IP. X Windows. In fact, the internet would not exist without the standards that UNIX opened to the world. Linux takes the idea a step further with the "open source" concept. When you buy Linux, you have access to the source code. So if you want to change the way that a Linux command works, you can modify it to suit your needs. UNIX and its variants (AIX, OS-X, BSD, etc.) did not feature an open source license, but they were, nevertheless, "open systems" for all of the reasons discussed above (and more). The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 I've use AIX on IBM RS6000's for 8 years with very few problems. 3 years ago we moved AP to and IBM Netfinity running NT to host Great Plains. If I had it to do over I would not make that move again. Microsoft has since bought Great Plains, and now is discontinuing support for any database but their own version of SQL. They also stopped supporting Windows NT in favor of their newest operating system. But, they have never figured out why our NT server randomly locks up. Sometimes once a week, sometimes once a month. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Dan, being a UNIX cat since 1987, you must be really happy with OSX. http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 Dan you won't get any arguments from me. Till I came to the US I had only used two OS' in my life. UNIX, and Linux (with smatterings of DOS), so *nix systems are very much part of my life. SInce so many people confuse UNIX and Linux, I presumed you did too. MY apologies. http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Very nicely summarized, Dan. --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 C'mon Dan, you're making all of this up now, aren't you? UNIX, or U Nix as it was originally called, was invented by Prince. In typical "Prince-speak," U means "you" and Nix means "get rid of." In other words, Prince wanted us to get rid of all other operating systems. Later on Price abandoned U Nix because he no longer believed in names and because it wasn't purple enough. Prince's Revolution bandmates, Wendy and Lisa, created a spin-off; and after Lisa won the coin toss over who the system would be named after, Li Nux was born. (They thought of naming the system "Lisa," but Apple already had dibs on that name.) The open variants were created by fans in honor of Prince's desire to create music free from record company tyranny. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's how it went down. If I'm missing any "facts," I'm sure others will "help" with the story! Best, Geoff P.S. Seriously though, very nicely summarized, Dan. My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billjv Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Dan, that summation rocked! Where can I leave the apple for the teacher? bv "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." -Carl Sagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Originally posted by Geoff Grace: C'mon Dan, you're making all of this up now, aren't you? UNIX, or U Nix as it was originally called, was invented by Prince. In typical "Prince-speak," U means "you" and Nix means "get rid of." In other words, Prince wanted us to get rid of all other operating systems. Later on Price abandoned U Nix because he no longer believed in names and because it wasn't purple enough. Prince's Revolution bandmates, Wendy and Lisa, created a spin-off; and after Lisa won the coin toss over who the system would be named after, Li Nux was born. (They thought of naming the system "Lisa," but Apple already had dibs on that name.) The open variants were created by fans in honor of Prince's desire to create music free from record company tyranny. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's how it went down. If I'm missing any "facts," I'm sure others will "help" with the story! Geoff, that's hillarious! The name "UNIX" does have an interesting origin, but it's definitely not as funny as YOUR version. Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie, the Bell Labs geniuses who developed UNIX, 'C', and related technologies, were part of a multi-company consortium in the 1960's. The consortium's goal was to build the world's best operating system. The operating system was to be called MULTICS, because one of its features was supposed to be robust support for multi-tasking. MULTICS was intended to run the most complex and demanding applications on the largest hardware platforms. To make a long story short, MULTICS never saw the light of day. The project became unmanageable, and after a while, Bell Labs and others pulled out. After MULTICS fell through, Thompson decided incorporate some of the MULTICS design ideas into a small, efficient operating system that could run on small, less expensive computer systems. The idea was to give researchers at Bell Labs a powerful feature set without the need for powerful processors and a lot of (very expensive) memory. Since MULTICS was to be the name of a complex operating system designed to handle multiple processes, Thompson thought the UNIX might be a good name for an operating system designed to handle less demanding tasks on smaller computers. By most accounts, the fact that UNIX sounds like "eunuchs" was intentional. (Nerd humor!) Oh, and here's how 'C' language got its name. Ritchie developed a programming language that he called 'B', because 'B' was the first initial in his wife's name. After a while, he decided to take what he learned by writing 'B' language and develop a more powerful language. 'C' seemed like the logical name. In 'C' language and its syntactic successors (C++, Java), there is an operator that looks like this. ++ It means "add one to the value of an integer variable." So if the variable x contains a value of 5, and a program executes the statement x++ x now contains the value, 6. Hence, C++, also developed (in part) by Ritchie, was so named because it's basically like 'C' but with some new features added to it. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Originally posted by Superbobus: Dan, being a UNIX cat since 1987, you must be really happy with OSX.Yeah, I'm still getting used to some of the BSD syntax, but it's great to have that kind of power available on a reliable, easy to use system. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Originally posted by Dan South: Originally posted by Superbobus: Dan, being a UNIX cat since 1987, you must be really happy with OSX.Yeah, I'm still getting used to some of the BSD syntax, but it's great to have that kind of power available on a reliable, easy to use system. Ah BSD .. Now that does bring back memories (good ones) http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Fascinating history lesson! It makes me wonder where M$ went wrong. All of the windows operating systems I've used have really been bad stability wise. (I've run 3.1, 95, 98se, and currently ME, which I am stuck with for now) The earlier ones weren't too bad. 95 was actually pretty stable, and it was a HUGE improvement over 3.1 as far as user friendliness went. 98se? Blue screens constanly, and lock ups several times a day despite all my efforts to get my hardware, software, and OS to play nice. ME is a total slug on my machine, and I have 512megs of ram. I'm convinced it can't deal with that number despite being told it can. I don't get blue screens that much since I streamlined what's on my hard drives, and constantly update my driver database. The only real major issue is speed here. It crawls, and my programs have a nasty tendency to lockup frequently. Also despite a clean install that included fdisking all my partitions ME refuses to shut down properly. It either restarts on the shut down command, or shuts down to peach coloured vertical lines. (no scandisk after hitting the reset switch or powering off) It started that right after the reformat! I reformatted because of excessive windows rot. I long for the day when I can buy a Mac! For stability, and also for the KICKASS audio processing capability and software written for it. (The new G5 sounds like a sweet processor!) "The heart of the machine is evolving, the soul has emerged, and all who embrace it will reach Teknotic Nirvana." ~ Nos Tehbi "Book of the Teknos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Originally posted by Dan South: Geoff, that's hillarious! The name "UNIX" does have an interesting origin, but it's definitely not as funny as YOUR version.Dan, you're very kind! What you shared, however, is much more interesting; so thanks again for the background info! Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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