guestuserguestuser.com Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 As far as I know, the P120 and P90 share the same ROM, but are voiced slightly differently. I'm quite familiar with the P80 and P120, since I own both of them. In the store where I tried it, they had a P120 as well as a P90, so I had the opportunity to compare them. Grand piano sound: The P90 has a nice grand piano sound, perhaps even slightly better than P120. I'd have to A/B them a bit more to be sure, but I definitely have no complaints about the P90's grand piano sound. Rhodes sound: I still prefer the P120's rhodes sound. The velocity-switching is too exaggerated and uneven on the P90's rhodes. Also, when you get up into the P90 rhodes's upper two octaves, the volume rolls off, and it gets kind of thin-sounding. On the P120's rhodes, the volume is more even in the upper octaves, and the sound remains convincing. Other sounds: I didn't get into them much, since I only care about the piano and rhodes. But the ones I played seemed about the same on both. Actually, I think I tried the Wurlitzer patch on both of them - I think I liked the P120's wurlitzer patch better also, but I can't remember for sure. I had been planning to replace my P80 with a P90, but now I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe buy another P120 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Did you use headphones or speakers? If speakers, were your ears positioned at the same distance and angle from the speakers when comparing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guestuserguestuser.com Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 Same set of headphones on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Loving Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Thanks for the road test. I was going to sell my p80 and get a p90. Frankly, for my purposes, a p120 might be a better purchase. "Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yahoo Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 isn't a p90 some tpye of machine gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 P120 has a killer Rhodes and looks much better than P90. But that's just my taste for silver and fake wood... http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I had the silver P120 for 8 months and just this month traded it for the black P120 because I prefer the look of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guestuserguestuser.com Posted July 16, 2003 Author Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by daveloving: Thanks for the road test. I was going to sell my p80 and get a p90. Frankly, for my purposes, a p120 might be a better purchase.Thanks! I urge you to go and try it for yourself, though. Just because I didn't like the rhodes voicing on it, doesn't mean that you won't like it. I'll probably have to go back and try it a couple more times myself just to make sure. Or maybe I'll rent it and use it on a couple of gigs. I just had to get my digs in about the velocity-switching, because that's my cross to bear. I like my P120 so much, it's the only rompler rhodes I've ever found which I truly enjoy playing, and I was hoping the P90 would be even better, which I don't think it is (in the rhodes department, anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Why Yamaha and others add only a few megs to their pianos every time they release a new model? Why don't they just give us the ultimate 124 meg they have up their sleeve? Do you think a 128meg instead of a 22meg piano inside a P-90 would make a big difference in cost? We need something now with the same caliber as Korg SG-1D and Roland RD-300S had in their days.(and they are still being used) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Here, here I agree, Carlito. Or at least give us the clarity of the P250 Grand Piano 1 in a 40 lb or less P series keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanrulez Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Good morning to everyone! I played the P90 as well and for the most part I agree with the assessment of Guest User. I was very suprised at the quality of the pinao sound. I do agree that its slightly better than the P120. (I heard them both through the same speakers and headphones) Since there are so many things that can influence the sound and action, its almost impossible to say for certain. The rhodes sound while better than the P80, sounds different than the P120. Not quite as good in my opinion, but I really think it will be a matter of preference. I did like the Wultizer sound better on the P90 though and again a matter of preference. The EPS sounded identical to the P120's to me. The strings were ok and useable. I actually thought the strings sounded much better when used layering other sounds. For the price, I think the P90 is a great value. For someomne like me the P90 makes sense, since size is an issue for me and its smaller than the P120. In my opinion, whether you get the P120 or P90, your getting excellent value and a great digital piano. Barring something very specific in your needs, I dn't think you can go wrong with either of them. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petros Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 The P90 is voiced "brighter" than the P120. When comparing the P90's "Grand Piano 1" to the P120's "Grand Piano 1", you must increase the "Brightness" slider on the P120 and decrease the "Brightness" slider on the P90 until they sound as close as possible, then they should sound the same. Did you do that when comparing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanrulez Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Petros, I did not increase or decrease the slider bar on either model. I just played them as the presets they are. I wish I'd thought of that. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by Carlito: Why Yamaha and others add only a few megs to their pianos every time they release a new model? Why don't they just give us the ultimate 124 meg they have up their sleeve? Because of the same reason computer manufacturers don't show up with the 128 bit Pentium 6 at 12GHz or the IBM G7 8GHz dual processor at 256 bits. If you just slowly raise the megs, you can introduce a lot more models, which means big business. Hey Petros, we have a taste difference I guess. My silver P120 looks so good together with my CS6x. Maybe I'll paint my Rhodes 54 silver too... http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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