Dr Teeth Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Weel i just seen the Cristina Aguilera's video "I Turn To You", i think that is the name. I mean the of the car crash. I saw a beautiful, graceful, majestic girl singing something that is worth, and with a princess like look. For other side, Dirrty!, which i think is disgusting!! yea yea, i like to see beautiful girls like Cristina in bikini, HOW COULD NOT I????. Bue, where is the limit?? is we follow the line we have now, in 5 years well have on MTV a pornstars making love with 5 guys while she is singing some thing like "ahhhhh uhhhh ouuuu yesss". Is that really music??? Where is the limit??? Rebuilding My Self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by LatinMusic: [b]Is that really music???[/b][/quote]Yes sir, that'd be music. :) P.S. I don't care enough about this to be serious at all. Elvis got accused of being obscene. Prince was accused of the same. Yes, the boundaries get pushed further out every year. It's my choice to change the channel if the content conflicts with my moral and ethical values. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Teeth Posted December 2, 2002 Author Share Posted December 2, 2002 Well of course i change the channel if dont like what i am seeing. My point is that... O think music should be exactly that: MUSIC. And I consider so disgusting the marketing strategies that included some body sales, well... just my opinion. I think Cristina is so much beautiful in that Princess like dress, and not in Striper like suit. Just my opinion, i insist. Rebuilding My Self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uh Clem Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Who cares - that chic is hot and talented enough - she can do whatever she can get away with - I'm fine with it. The ironic thing, in this post IMHO, is that the videos on Latin MTV are far racier than the "puritan by comparison" American MTV - and the music is usually better as well! Viva la musica :thu: Steve Powell - Bull Moon Digital www.bullmoondigital.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uh Clem Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 BTW,it is about Entertainment (of which music is a subset), not just Music. If it were just music, the videos would be superfluous wouldn't they? So many people seem to overlook this important distinction. Steve Powell - Bull Moon Digital www.bullmoondigital.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 And you have every right to that opinion. Here's the problem you're having: music or entertainment? The people who bother you are primarily entertainers. They do things to raise and sustain interest in themselves that go beyond musicianship or songwriting. They are entertainers who have happened to have chosen music for their ticket to fame. Accept them for that, and you're fine. Musicians, who create for the sake of the music, are a separate class of people with different goals, and perhaps need to be held to a different standard. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by = stevepow =: [b]BTW,it is about Entertainment[/b][/quote]Hey! Looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time, Steve! - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Ehl Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 apparently she can do both and you apparently watched both and apparently it has been successful in making you think about it which was the point if you do not want to see such things obviously do not turn to mtv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Cristina Aguilera is a dirty little girl and needs to be spanked. Hard. Otherwise, she seems to be completely devoid of any indivual character or creativity. For that, she should be spanked again, and forced into porn. I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 I personally can't wait for the Porn and Pop connection to fully materialize! ;) MTV has always been racy. Do we expect anything else? - DJDM DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffbayson Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 I'm waiting for porn and C-Span to merge. Daschle and Lott going at it, head-to-head, in a no-holes-barred session? Jesse Helms taking on the entire Democratic party in a filibuster? It gets me hot just thinking about it. (I just thought I'd strike some political sparks, for the hell of it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhcomp45aol.com Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 You can spank Christina as long as I can lick her wounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded yeti Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too. I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded yeti Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by Swoop: [b] [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too.[/b][/quote]Perhaps you're right Sylver. Would you care to do the honors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b] [quote]Originally posted by Swoop: [b] [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too.[/b][/quote]Perhaps you're right Sylver. Would you care to do the honors?[/b][/quote]Hey, you know, I already made that offer. Anytime. I'm a pro. ;) I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Ashley I will give you the spanking of a lifetime, but ony if you wear this outfit.. OMG. [img]http://www.altocelebs.net/j/ashley-judd/c-000164-im-000090.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Rookie. She needs to be naked. Then flogged. Then paddled. Then Spanked. THEN the fun begins! I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvster Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: [b]P.S. I don't care enough about this to be serious at all. Elvis got accused of being obscene. Prince was accused of the same.[/b][/quote]And in the immortal words of Elvis himself: "I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to." Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark V Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Looks like the general consensus is the more porn the better.. I once had a quasi-religious experience..then I realised I'd turned up the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by Dan South: [b]I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding.[/b][/quote]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeton Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]is we follow the line we have now, in 5 years well have on MTV a pornstars making love with 5 guys while she is singing some thing like "ahhhhh uhhhh ouuuu yesss". Is that really music??? Where is the limit??? [/quote]You mean like that Fiona Apple Video a few years back? I don't care what anyone says, though... i really dig her. Dr. Seuss: The Original White Rapper . WWND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrmac Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Music is in exile. It's been replaced with commerce and the bottom line rules. There are no ethics left in corporate America. Quite sad really. Young kids today have only a small chance of discovering real art which is hidden behind the onslaught of commercial garbage. Young artists that aspire to reach the heights of former luminaries like Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder or John Lennon have very little chance of getting exposure. You have to look good in lingerie to get a record deal these days. :eek: Mac Bowne G-Clef Acoustics Ltd. Osaka, Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Remy Shand doesn't look good in lingerie and he got a record deal. So did Moby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_bassman Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hey, I don´t like that kind of comments, Cristina Aguilera is one of several artists, like you and me, who is trying to have success. That Is the way she find to market her product, you guys can choose any other way, is up to you. I see a lot of hard work in Cristina´s production, i don´t like to say "that is art and that is not..." After all, art is something more related with taste. If you like it, it sould be Art. Cristina is cute and a great performer, it is hard to find something bad to talk about her work. But some people have talent to do so. As artists we sould be learning from each others and supporting each other work, not only looking for the black "detail". Is more easy to say "that is bad" than do it better. Regards Roy Roy A. Zderich http://www.dsps.cl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anifa Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by Dan South: [b]I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding.[/b][/quote]:D :D :D You can take the man away from his music, but you can't take the music out of the man. Books by Craig Anderton through Amazon Sweetwater: Bruce Swedien\'s "Make Mine Music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by roy_bassman: [b]I don´t like that kind of comments, Cristina Aguilera is one of several artists, like you and me, who is trying to have success.[/b][/quote]Roy...ya missed the point, a little. I am [i]not[/i] "trying to have success". I enjoy creating music. I am not bound to have any type of hairstyle, to dress a certain way or act a certain way, in order to let me make music. Some people decide that want they want is fame and fortune, and this goes beyond their need to use music as a creative art. I am not one of those people. It's fine for someone to either have or lack respect for artists who have chosen that route. But to be clear...you can [i]not[/i] like someone on the merit of their musical abilities, but still understand that they are good entertainers. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. Ehl Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by roy_bassman: [b]I see a lot of hard work in Cristina´s production, i don´t like to say "that is art and that is not..." [/b][/quote]a drainage ditch is hard work that does not mean it is art i will say christina aguilera might be art in a walmart chic way but what she does as music is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I also see alot of hard work in Christina's production. T. Ehl I have a feeling you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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