Porn or pop Stars????

[Dr Teeth]

Weel i just seen the Cristina Aguilera's video "I Turn To You", i think that is the name. I mean the of the car crash. I saw a beautiful, graceful, majestic girl singing something that is worth, and with a princess like look. For other side, Dirrty!, which i think is disgusting!! yea yea, i like to see beautiful girls like Cristina in bikini, HOW COULD NOT I????. Bue, where is the limit?? is we follow the line we have now, in 5 years well have on MTV a pornstars making love with 5 guys while she is singing some thing like "ahhhhh uhhhh ouuuu yesss". Is that really music??? Where is the limit???

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

[quote]Originally posted by LatinMusic: [b]Is that really music???[/b][/quote]Yes sir, that'd be music. :) P.S. I don't care enough about this to be serious at all. Elvis got accused of being obscene. Prince was accused of the same. Yes, the boundaries get pushed further out every year. It's my choice to change the channel if the content conflicts with my moral and ethical values. - Jeff

[Dr Teeth]

Well of course i change the channel if dont like what i am seeing. My point is that... O think music should be exactly that: MUSIC. And I consider so disgusting the marketing strategies that included some body sales, well... just my opinion. I think Cristina is so much beautiful in that Princess like dress, and not in Striper like suit. Just my opinion, i insist.

[Uh Clem]

Who cares - that chic is hot and talented enough - she can do whatever she can get away with - I'm fine with it. The ironic thing, in this post IMHO, is that the videos on Latin MTV are far racier than the "puritan by comparison" American MTV - and the music is usually better as well! Viva la musica :thu:

[Uh Clem]

BTW,it is about Entertainment (of which music is a subset), not just Music. If it were just music, the videos would be superfluous wouldn't they? So many people seem to overlook this important distinction.

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

And you have every right to that opinion. Here's the problem you're having: music or entertainment? The people who bother you are primarily entertainers. They do things to raise and sustain interest in themselves that go beyond musicianship or songwriting. They are entertainers who have happened to have chosen music for their ticket to fame. Accept them for that, and you're fine. Musicians, who create for the sake of the music, are a separate class of people with different goals, and perhaps need to be held to a different standard. - Jeff

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

[quote]Originally posted by = stevepow =: [b]BTW,it is about Entertainment[/b][/quote]Hey! Looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time, Steve! - Jeff

[T. Ehl]

apparently she can do both and you apparently watched both and apparently it has been successful in making you think about it which was the point if you do not want to see such things obviously do not turn to mtv

[Sylver]

Cristina Aguilera is a dirty little girl and needs to be spanked. Hard. Otherwise, she seems to be completely devoid of any indivual character or creativity. For that, she should be spanked again, and forced into porn.

[DJDM]

I personally can't wait for the Porn and Pop connection to fully materialize! ;) MTV has always been racy. Do we expect anything else? - DJDM

[jeffbayson]

I'm waiting for porn and C-Span to merge. Daschle and Lott going at it, head-to-head, in a no-holes-barred session? Jesse Helms taking on the entire Democratic party in a filibuster? It gets me hot just thinking about it. (I just thought I'd strike some political sparks, for the hell of it.)

[nhcomp45aol.com]

You can spank Christina as long as I can lick her wounds

[bearded yeti]

I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?

[Sylver]

[quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too.

[bearded yeti]

[quote]Originally posted by Swoop: [b] [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too.[/b][/quote]Perhaps you're right Sylver. Would you care to do the honors?

[Sylver]

[quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b] [quote]Originally posted by Swoop: [b] [quote]Originally posted by White Chocolate/Ashley: [b]I've spanked her a number of times, and vice versa. Wewus where are you?[/b][/quote]I don't believe you've ever been spanked properly. Or enough. Yep, you need it too.[/b][/quote]Perhaps you're right Sylver. Would you care to do the honors?[/b][/quote]Hey, you know, I already made that offer. Anytime. I'm a pro. ;)

[Jeebus]

Ashley I will give you the spanking of a lifetime, but ony if you wear this outfit.. OMG. [img]http://www.altocelebs.net/j/ashley-judd/c-000164-im-000090.jpg[/img]

[Sylver]

Rookie. She needs to be naked. Then flogged. Then paddled. Then Spanked. THEN the fun begins!

[Marvster]

[quote]Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: [b]P.S. I don't care enough about this to be serious at all. Elvis got accused of being obscene. Prince was accused of the same.[/b][/quote]And in the immortal words of Elvis himself: "I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to." Marv

[Mark V]

Looks like the general consensus is the more porn the better..

[Dan South]

I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding.

[Sylver]

[quote]Originally posted by Dan South: [b]I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding.[/b][/quote]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[phaeton]

[quote]is we follow the line we have now, in 5 years well have on MTV a pornstars making love with 5 guys while she is singing some thing like "ahhhhh uhhhh ouuuu yesss". Is that really music??? Where is the limit??? [/quote]You mean like that Fiona Apple Video a few years back? I don't care what anyone says, though... i really dig her.

[gtrmac]

Music is in exile. It's been replaced with commerce and the bottom line rules. There are no ethics left in corporate America. Quite sad really. Young kids today have only a small chance of discovering real art which is hidden behind the onslaught of commercial garbage. Young artists that aspire to reach the heights of former luminaries like Marvin Gaye or Stevie Wonder or John Lennon have very little chance of getting exposure. You have to look good in lingerie to get a record deal these days. :eek:

[Jeebus]

Remy Shand doesn't look good in lingerie and he got a record deal. So did Moby.

[roy_bassman]

Hey, I don´t like that kind of comments, Cristina Aguilera is one of several artists, like you and me, who is trying to have success. That Is the way she find to market her product, you guys can choose any other way, is up to you. I see a lot of hard work in Cristina´s production, i don´t like to say "that is art and that is not..." After all, art is something more related with taste. If you like it, it sould be Art. Cristina is cute and a great performer, it is hard to find something bad to talk about her work. But some people have talent to do so. As artists we sould be learning from each others and supporting each other work, not only looking for the black "detail". Is more easy to say "that is bad" than do it better. Regards Roy

[Anifa]

[quote]Originally posted by Dan South: [b]I hear that Rosie O'Donnell is doing a remake of the Christina video. Just kidding.[/b][/quote]:D :D :D

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

[quote]Originally posted by roy_bassman: [b]I don´t like that kind of comments, Cristina Aguilera is one of several artists, like you and me, who is trying to have success.[/b][/quote]Roy...ya missed the point, a little. I am [i]not[/i] "trying to have success". I enjoy creating music. I am not bound to have any type of hairstyle, to dress a certain way or act a certain way, in order to let me make music. Some people decide that want they want is fame and fortune, and this goes beyond their need to use music as a creative art. I am not one of those people. It's fine for someone to either have or lack respect for artists who have chosen that route. But to be clear...you can [i]not[/i] like someone on the merit of their musical abilities, but still understand that they are good entertainers. - Jeff

[T. Ehl]

[quote]Originally posted by roy_bassman: [b]I see a lot of hard work in Cristina´s production, i don´t like to say "that is art and that is not..." [/b][/quote]a drainage ditch is hard work that does not mean it is art i will say christina aguilera might be art in a walmart chic way but what she does as music is not

[Jeebus]

I also see alot of hard work in Christina's production. T. Ehl I have a feeling you don't know what the hell you're talking about.