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[Tedster]

I like the "magic" factor myself. A studio I recorded at has a couple of plate reverbs that were allegedly used on some of Simon and Garfunkel's recordings. How cool! And when I think of "what an antiquated piece of junk"...I can't help but think of how they got such a cool sound on such an "antiquated piece of junk". To think that the average small home studio owner has more technology available (and for a substantially less cost) than Sam Phillips did is kinda humbling, and then you ask yourself, "Well, if this is true, how come I can't make as good a recording as ol' Sam did back in the day?". Kinda like the "pocket calculator/Apollo" analogy...along the lines of "there's more technology in your pocket calculator than there was in the Lunar Module" thing. But I still can't fly my calculator to the Sea of Tranquility.

[GT40sc]

Magic factor all the way. Egg Studios in Seattle has an old Audiotronics console out of Stax/Volt in Memphis...every time I have been there, it is very easy to believe that Otis Redding cut "Dock of the Bay" on that board... I have no proof that this is true at all...but it adds to the magic of the session nonetheless...

[Gtoledo3]

Hank, Is it an M3, ie "Baby B3"? I got one recently with all of the options- leslie hookup, drawbar mods, ensemble voicings, spring reverb, etcetera. Kicks ass, even if B3 guys aren't that crazy about it.

[DJDM]

[quote]Originally posted by GT40sc: [b]Magic factor all the way. Egg Studios in Seattle has an old Audiotronics console out of Stax/Volt in Memphis...every time I have been there, it is very easy to believe that Otis Redding cut "Dock of the Bay" on that board... I have no proof that this is true at all...but it adds to the magic of the session nonetheless...[/b][/quote]I had a chance to check out Egg when I was looking for a place to record an album in 1989. (Decided against it as we needed Midi compatibility) I am not sure if it is the same board I saw when I was there but I liked the board he had at the time. The rest of the studio is really big on vibe and magic as well. Some very cool music has come out of Egg! - DJDM

[offramp]

Magic factor weighs in for me, on many occasions. A guy I used to work with in a studio, back in the mid-'80's, bought an old Masonic lodge in Indianapolis, and turned it into a studio (oddly enogh, called 'The Lodge'); the console in the "A" room came from a studio in NYC where Fagen recorded 'The Nightfly'...looking at the board, the thought of THAT much 'cool' flowing through that console was like Homer's donut.

[Jotown]

I don't believe in the "Magic Factor". In my earlier years I was always looking for that. Every studio, every engineer had a story. The magic black box. I have come to believe over time that the real magic factor is the performance of all involved in that one moment in time. I still have favorite gear, and gear that I lust for, but it's not as important to me as it used to be. I look alot less at gear for the magic, and alot more to myself or whomevers performance I am trying to capture.

[Jeebus]

[quote]Originally posted by Jotown: [b]I don't believe in the "Magic Factor". In my earlier years I was always looking for that. Every studio, every engineer had a story. The magic black box. I have come to believe over time that the real magic factor is the performance of all involved in that one moment in time. I still have favorite gear, and gear that I lust for, but it's not as important to me as it used to be. I look alot less at gear for the magic, and alot more to myself or whomevers performance I am trying to capture.[/b][/quote]Sometimes, the magic factor provides the spark and inspiration needed to create that amazing performance. I've had performances on particular instruments that I know would never have come out otherwise.

[coyote]

Most 'B3 guys' I know are into tonewheel Hammonds of any sort, and would gladly play an M3 if that's what was available. If you have the old vinyl version of Let It Be, you'll see the M3 in the inner photos. As for magic, the old tonewheel Hammonds have a great deal of it. Even tho the current clones have gotten fantastic, there's no substitute for the feel of the real thing. When you play it, it's not some slender thing wobbling around on a folding stand - it's a big solid thing that you can really bang on and dig into. There's a similar 'feel' difference between a real piano and any flimsy electronic variant thereof. And that magic can absolutely make a difference in performance. [quote]Originally posted by Hank The Cave Peanut: [b] [quote]Originally posted by GT3: [b]Hank, Is it an M3, ie "Baby B3"? I got one recently with all of the options- leslie hookup, drawbar mods, ensemble voicings, spring reverb, etcetera. Kicks ass, even if B3 guys aren't that crazy about it.[/b][/quote]BTW, [url=http://www.netwalk.com/~billys/hammond/sightings.html]this web page[/url] claims that Billy Preston may have played a M3 on the Beatles' "Let it Be" sessions. Assuming that's true, does your Hammond now feel "magical"? :D [/b][/quote]

[Gtoledo3]

[quote]Originally posted by coyote: [b]Most 'B3 guys' I know are into tonewheel Hammonds of any sort, and would gladly play an M3 if that's what was available. If you have the old vinyl version of Let It Be, you'll see the M3 in the inner photos. As for magic, the old tonewheel Hammonds have a great deal of it. Even tho the current clones have gotten fantastic, there's no substitute for the feel of the real thing. When you play it, it's not some slender thing wobbling around on a folding stand - it's a big solid thing that you can really bang on and dig into. There's a similar 'feel' difference between a real piano and any flimsy electronic variant thereof. And that magic can absolutely make a difference in performance. [quote]Originally posted by Hank The Cave Peanut: [b] [quote]Originally posted by GT3: [b]Hank, Is it an M3, ie "Baby B3"? I got one recently with all of the options- leslie hookup, drawbar mods, ensemble voicings, spring reverb, etcetera. Kicks ass, even if B3 guys aren't that crazy about it.[/b][/quote]BTW, [url=http://www.netwalk.com/~billys/hammond/sightings.html]this web page[/url] claims that Billy Preston may have played a M3 on the Beatles' "Let it Be" sessions. Assuming that's true, does your Hammond now feel "magical"? :D [/b][/quote][/b][/quote]I've known that the M3 was used on a TON of classic recordings- Green Onions is another one. I do get 'tude from some B3 dudes though. Maybe just the ignorant ones. :D

[Gabriel E.]

Last year I saw an old Sam Ash fuzz pedal that was advertized as Tommy Bolin's. Wasn't too expensive and I was psyched to get it since I'm a huge fan of Tommy's playing on "Spectrum". Turned out to not be HIS pedal. Just one LIKE his. Wasn't interested anymore.

[PBBPaul]

About three years ago, our keyboard player took a gig in New York. The guy was great and we had a hard time replacing him. We used a bunch of different contract players and auditioned endlessly. One night one of our "filler" players couldn't make the gig and referred us to this older guy he knew who was just getting back into gigging after taking about 20 (!) years off. It was the last minute, we couldn't find anyone else and our filler guy assured us that the replacement could do the deal with no problem. This all happened at the last minute so we never had a chance to even meet the guy much less get a rehearsal in. There we were at the gig (a small club in a small town in Wisconsin) and this "old guy" shows up with a B3, Leslie, Roland piano, amps... Took up half the stage. The guy's gear looked like it had been through a couple of wars. He had to borrow a drumstick to whack the Leslie a couple of times to loosen up the realays. My first thought was to start drinking heavily since it looked like the whole night was going to be one big trainwreck. You see I'd never played with a real B3 for an entire gig. And those that I had, were never played by anybody that could actually make them sing. To make an already too-long story not too much longer, as soon as he cranked up that B3 and Leslie, every hair on my body stood straight up. This guy and his B3 are one. The vibe is incredible. I don't know if I could ever get used to playing with sampled keyboards again. This organ and more importantly, the way he plays it, seems to take every molecule of air in the room, wrap you up in it and carry you away. By the way, we asked him to join our band that night, he agreed and he's still with us. I gladly help him haul that B3 in and out of the van, up and down stairs every weekend.

[jpmiii]

Isn't that just the best feeling. I have a buddy of mine who also is just a monster key board player. I've only got to play with him and the B-3 a couple of times but it's something you don't forget.

[rog951]

I'm going through another big Beatles phase here lately; both listening to and reading a lot of stuff. One of the books I've been reading has several pictures where you can see those funky-looking ribbon mics hanging down all over Abbey Road. Coles? I dunno, but they look so cool that I want to go buy some. It doesn't hurt that they were in the room when so many Beatles songs were recorded either. I have no idea what they were used on, if anything, but if they sound even 1% as cool as they look, it'd be worth the mortgage... I see they've re-issued them for around a grand a pop. Anybody know if the re-issues are magic?

[Philip OKeefe]

This one? [img]http://www.wesdooley.com/prods/03.jpg[/img] That's the Coles 4038. The Beatles used that mic a lot on their recordings, as well as Neumann KM54's and U47/U48's, and AKG D19's and D20's, among others.

[Philip OKeefe]

BTW, they ARE good sounding ribbon mics - but you'll need a nice quiet preamp with a lot of gain.

[Jotown]

The Jesus said: [quote]Sometimes, the magic factor provides the spark and inspiration needed to create that amazing performance. I've had performances on particular instruments that I know would never have come out otherwise. [/quote]I am not knocking the mystique factor, I'm just saying that I am much less caught up in it now. That being said, if you would grant me a miracle and send send the U47 that Paul Mcartney used when he recorded "Yesterday", along with one of Georges old guitars, (he's not using them anymore) I would be very grateful. Heck, I would even pay for the shipping.

[Mats Olsson.]

A friend of mine is using an Amek Angela that was used for Monthy Python's [i]Life of Brian[/i] and some of their albums. How cool is that? BTW, I've got a Coles 4038. It is a great addition to any mic locker. /Mats

[coyote]

GREAT story, Paul! The same happened to me with owning the Hammond. Mine's an A100 so it's a little easier to move than a B3 or C3 - but it's still 270lbs. Two years ago I thought I'd one day trade it in for a clone. But now I'm more than willing to haul it around, and guys I play with are more than willing to help. If that's not mystique, I don't know what is :) [quote]Originally posted by PBBPaul: [b]By the way, we asked him to join our band that night, he agreed and he's still with us. I gladly help him haul that B3 in and out of the van, up and down stairs every weekend.[/b][/quote]

[DC]

I've gladly carried one corner of a Hammond B3 and leslie cabs in my day, even up stairs. :thu: As far as a facination with gear because it was used by a hero, no way. I couldn't give two sh*ts if Sting sang Roxanne over this particular microphone. Shows the difference between performers and collecters I guess. But to make a great profit on a sale, you need a great story... Hey guys, I've got a bunch of outboard stuff for sale that was used on, uhh, lets see, it was used on the 'Hell Freezes Over' tour by the Eagles. Yeah, that's it, by the Eagles, yeah that's the ticket. Now what's the first bid on this Rane EQ?

[rog951]

[quote]Originally posted by Philip O'Keefe: [b]This one? [img]http://www.wesdooley.com/prods/03.jpg[/img] [/b][/quote]YUP! That's the one alright. Coles 4038. Wow. What sort of applications are generally best for this mic? Are there any specific recordings that anyone knows of that feature it? I don't know why this particular mic has grabbed me all of a sudden...actually, I guess it's just that I really like the way it looks. Am I nuts to consider getting one of these ribbons when I already drool over a friend's Royer and I know I'm gonna "need" one of those too?