Anderton Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 What do you use to mix? Control surface? Mixer? All within a DAW? Please vote, as this information will be very helpful for an article I'm writing. If you use more than one of the options, vote for the one you use the most. Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Well, there's no option for all-in-one workstations like my Yamaha AW4416, so I just picked "Digital mixer in conjunction with DAW." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Geez Craig, you dissed Lee. I can't believe you did that. Anyway I'll be entering the mixing contest and I'm totally virtual, watcha me click my mouse really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I prefer to choose from a selection of analog mixers, myself... [img]http://www.deliaonline.com/picturelibrary\jpeg150/wh/whisk-beaters.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 What do I use to mix? - A mix engineer. ;) Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted November 21, 2002 Author Share Posted November 21, 2002 <> As Homer Simpson would say, "Doh"! <> Perfect choice. Some all in ones use analog mixer with DAW, so those of you with those types of devices can enter that option. Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I picked DAW with control surface (PT LE / Digi 002), but I nearly picked Digital mixer with stand alone multitrack, since that comes fairly close to describing my dual AW4416's. But I really wasn't given the "right" choice to pick, since I pretty much rely equally on the stand alone DAW's (AW4416's) which are really combo digital mixers / digital multitracks, as well as a computer DAW program with a controller (Digi 002 / PT LE). BTW Craig, I did like your DAW controller article from a couple of issues back. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Hey [b]Craig[/b], that was your 4,000th post! [i][b]CoNgRaTuLaTiOnS!!![/b][/i] :thu: Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I used to be all analog but I have moved over to DAW exclusively. LOVE IT!!!! I have to say that since I use Reason in Rewire with Cubase for many if not all of my content creation needs my music never leaves my computer until it is launched out onto the web or hermetically sealed in plastic via CD. Leaves me feeling a little nostalgic for the bygone days of miles of cable and hum once in a while. NOT! I guess I dont mind if my music never breathes real air. The trade off is quiet and clean and seamless audio. I really like that. :thu: - DJDM DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny, Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 To mix? I use a Braun Deluxe hand blender. It's great! SILLY WABBIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark LaCoste Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I do have a digital mixer but can't figure why I'd use it to mix, other than to monitor through it. The stuff I'm mixing is in the DAW, and I can mouse on it nearly as fast a a Wewus. But I don't have a lot of tracks. Here's a question: Do folks who often mix large projects (here I mean more than 12 tracks) tend to use something external to their DAW/multitracker? -mark Rubber Lizard Studio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoeditor1 Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Digital mixer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotown Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I sold my digital mixer 2 years ago and I haven't looked back. I do it in the box. Still learning how to do it well, but for me it's the only way to go now. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiobotica Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 It's all in the DAW now and my control surface sits gathering dust. I was so sure I'd need faders when I switched from analog to DAW... then I learned a few key command shortcuts and suddenly the control surface looked like a time sink not a time saver. Your in Music, Ben Fury Yours in Music, Ben Fury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Entirely within the DAW. I mean, I would need a 64-track mixer for most of my projects, and I frankly don't have the money OR the SPACE for something that big. I know you can use a smaller mixer to mix that many tracks, but it just seems easier for me to mix within the DAW. I don't miss touching the faders enough to buy a mixer. Cakewalk/Sonar RULEZ!!! [img]http://www.420recordsgroup.com/images/smilies/putersmiley.gif[/img] https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard truth Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I'm surprised by how many people use DAWs without a control surface. I think the Peavey PC1600x midi fader box (approx. $250) is one of the best kept secrets in electronic music. I find that it saves a lot of time to be able to control multiple channels concurrently rather than doing it all by mouse. The PC1600x is also useful for many other Midi functions. I also using for tweaking virtual synths and controlling my Pod. It doesn't have moving faders or other features found on more expensive units, but its easy to program, has 16 faders, and the faders have a nice feel. I do a lot of recording of jams to ADAT. Instead of transferring the material to the DAW's hard drives, if I just want a quick mix without doing any editing, I route my ADAT's optical out to the DAW (Mac with Digital Performer & MOTU 2408)and route the DAW's SPDIF out to a stand alone CD burner. That way I can use all of my effects plug-ins without having to go to the trouble of transferring the material to hard drive. Using the PC 1600x control surface gives me the best of both worlds-tons of effects options with the plug-ins, and quick results. www.oranjproductions.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulliver Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I voted for a DAW + an analog mixer, though some my projects are done exclusively in a DAW. (Still I prefer to combine these two different beasts.) I am back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded yeti Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Same here, DAW with analog mixer. I think we're in second place. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botch. Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I mix directly on my Mack: [img]http://www.trucks.com/photos/A116-L.jpg[/img] Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will www.puddlestone.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Read your DAW article, too, Craig and I was thinking of getting a controller for my PTLE 001 rig. It's funny to read a lot of you are going the opposite direction. I mix with my mouse and I don't have a problem with it. The thing I notice though, is I tend to round up or down to a nice number. Say for a fader, if a track sound good on - 2.69 dB, I end up typing in -3.0 dB. My settings tend to end in .0 or .5 but nothing else. It's kind of anal, really. I was thinking a controller would let me serve the mix better rather than my analness (or is it my anality?). :D aka riffing Double Post music: Strip Down http://rimspeed.com http://loadedtheband.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 [quote]Originally posted by Rubber Lizard Studios: [b]Here's a question: Do folks who often mix large projects (here I mean more than 12 tracks) tend to use something external to their DAW/multitracker? [/b][/quote]Well, those who have the money. :D I think it sounds a lot better to mix out through an analog console but I don't have the cash for that myself. If I did, at the very least I'd get a RADAR and a Soundcraft Ghost. That'd be my dream "budget" setup but it ain't really that "budget." :D I do enjoy mixing on my AW4416, seeing as I like real faders and the automation is very easy to use. Mixing in a DAW doesn't do it for me, but there are many who seem to enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Yes!!! The Soundcraft Ghost! Cool board! I used to mix on one of those back in the day. I really liked that board. You're making me all sentimental now... ;) https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtoledo3 Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I can't choose just one though- that kinda messes up the poll! Want mix/tracking feedback? Checkout "The Fade"- www.grand-designs.cc/mmforum/index.php The soon-to-be home of the "12 Bar-Blues Project" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Also can't choose "preferred method". The last two or three weeks I've been mixing virtually out of necessity because I'm no longer sharing the studio I was at that had a board. Not my board. I'd prefer something like a Dangerous 2 Bus for analog summing and a control surface but that's not know. I have pretty cool outbaord pres, compressors and reverbs but not the other . . . dang. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 [b]CRAIG:[/b] Did you have any preconceptions as to how this poll would turn out? Has it turned out the way you would have predicted? I've noticed that, as the number of respondents increases, the percentages remain fairly consistent. I don't know whether that observation has any significance. https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I put virtual mixing, but I do use an analog board to mix midi/effects as well as to monitor. Also use ADAT sometimes when tracking many sources at once. -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrix Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 AW4416 for me. However, i bypass the onboard electronics completely (via inserts and digital ins) and use an external clock. Check out some tunes here: http://www.garageband.com/artist/KenFava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Recording/playback with 24 channels of MOTU 2408 IIs (soon to be Mk IIIs). All tracks are kept discrete to a Mackie 32 8. Mixing to stereo within the DAW and a 2 channel sound card sucks. Too much number crunching... like squeezing a pine tree through a small funnel. GY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 <> I had no clue whatsoever. Mitch and I are contemplating a feature article for EQ that relates to combining mixers with DAWs, and I wanted to do a little research before deciding what approach to take. Thanks to everyone who voted or plans to vote. I realize in retrospect that the choices weren't the best they could have been, but fortunately, they were good enough to provide what I needed. Also, your comments have been very helpful. Thanks again! Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Up to last month I used my DAW through the Ghost 32. I liked it but there was some bottom 60 cycle hum I couldn't track down. I've heard others complain about the same thing. But I just had all the faders at unity and used 24 tracks, many bussed. I used some outboard compression and eq. It was very cool. Now though it's more "clean" but doesn't have that BREATH thing. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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