schmoron13 Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 After a weekend recording session (smooth jazz into the computer) my downstairs neighboor asked me about headphones (IE: banged on the ceiling)..so I've been trying to find out what pair I should get but have found little info on any. I saw that Keyboard Mag had a keybuy for the new K240 (from AKG) but that's it. I tried going to GC (I know I know) but those idiots didn't help (the girl working the pro audio dept sent me to another dept only to have me go back and point out that the cans were right behind her!!!!)... I need a pair asap for the following uses: I record mainly softsynths and the occasional guitar, cello, voice into my Aardvark Q10. I started doing some dance and hip hop music so I prob need decent bass response. Now I was wondering what people use and like/dislike. I would prefer to spend less than $100 but if they are worth it... I know I need to listen to really pick a pair, but I'm curios as to what the rest of you use. I know very little about the technology in headphones and what the stats mean (besides range) so any advice would be great Thanks in advance
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I like these better than the AKG for most applications: Sony Phones http://www.youtube.com/notesleb
Mike Martin Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I agree with Steve. Sony MDR7506 -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for.
PAULIII Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I have a set of Koss Pro4AAA headphones that I have had for years. They are by far the cleanest, flattest sounding headset I have heard yet. I think I paid around 280.00 new, but I'm not sure what the updated equivilant Koss model would be. Really worth the money, though! PaulIII
synthetic Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 The Sony MDR-V6 is a great closed headphone. They are nice and tight but you start to feel like you have a matress on your head after wearing them for a few hours. This is a blessing and a curse - it shuts out all outside noise, which makes them a must-have on airplanes. I won't fly without mine, even with no music playing they shut out the world. The AKG K240s are a great open headphone, which means that you can wear them longer without feeling like there's a pillow on your head. I prefer the sound of the V6 although it is a bit brighter. It's a metal dome tweeter 1/2" from your ear so they can be a bit harsh. The K240 is a bit smoother. Both the Sony and the AKG have a slight bass bump around 150Hz. Also, the Sonys have a lower impedance than the AKGs, so the Sonys can get louder with the same amp. (This may have changed recently, I noticed an ad for the AKGs which said they're low impedance now.) You may also want to check out the Fostex D40 or D50. They are very nice headphones, but a bit heavy and they don't stay on your head as well. Finally, you might want to try a hifi store as they often stock these models and have better prices (volume) than music stores. -jl
zero interrupt Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 Another vote for the Sony MDR-7506. Best bass response I've heard yet. and oh so clear. the murdersuit is coming...
Rick_Rhino Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 the k240 will not give you ear fatigue like the mid range anoying sonys so what's the WIFM?
IZCool Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 Perhaps, schmoron13, you should try visiting one of the headphone forums for more information: eg www.headwize.com www.head-fi.com good luck
Raymar Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 Just bought a set Sennheiser HD 280 Pro headphones for half price and I can't complain. Not only do they sound good but all of the parts are replaceable. They do look a little huge on my head though. steve You shouldn't chase after the past or pin your hopes on the future.
Intheether Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I don't think CG carries the AKG 141 and 240's I got my 141m's through zzsounds. I personally prefer the 141's to my Sony's based on feel (the sony's crush my ears too much). They really are excellent for tracking and mixing - I'd highly recommend them esp. for the price. *
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 the k240 will not give you ear fatigue like the mid range anoying sonysYeah well, you probably shouldn't be listening through headphones for that long without a rest anyway. http://www.youtube.com/notesleb
schmoron13 Posted August 28, 2002 Author Posted August 28, 2002 Thanks for the replies everyone. I didn't realize that there was such a huge market for headphones!!! I noticed that a lot of these so-called "audiophiles" rave about Grado labs...hence, I was wondering if anyone has any info on them, specifically the sr60 and sr80. Thanks again guys for helping me out
Magpel Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 My main "cans" are the AKG K240s. I can't fault the way they sound BUT...the leakage is extreme. When tracking singers and acoustic guitars and the like, I almost always turn to some cheapo Sonys because they don't leak nearly as much. Check out the Sweet Clementines CD at bandcamp
Carlito Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 How about wireless headphones? I just saw a Sony MDR-RF975RK wireless .Could they work in a studio the same way as regular headphones?
Felix_dup1 Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 My favorite is probably the Sony MDR7506. I also have a pair of Sennheiser HD25SP's that I really like the sound of (though they're not as comfortable). I've also considered a pair of Sony MDR-V700DJ (check out the frequency response) or Sennheiser HD280PRO's. I haven't ever really liked the round earcups of the Fostex phones.
Bucktunes Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 FWIW, I'll add another vote for the Sony MDR 7506. I've used them for 10 years and I agree with the comments from the other guys here who recommended them. I'd be careful about "audiophile" headphones. Like most consumer-oriented audio equipment, they're designed to hype or enhance the sound, which is what you don't want if you're using them as studio monitors. You want to hear exactly what you put into them, which is why the Sonys and the K240's are so popular in studios. Peace all, Steve ><> Steve
Synthguy Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I'm really big on Sennheiser and Grado. They both sound similar, nice wide response, deep bass, sweet highs, proper mids. And they don't weigh a lot either. The 580s or 600s can take a little getting used to if you haven't used a closed set for a while, but they're really comfy. I'll have to check the others out again but I'm pretty sold on those two lines. This keyboard solo has obviously been tampered with!
schmoron13 Posted August 28, 2002 Author Posted August 28, 2002 Thanks again guys for so many helpfull responses A quick question: I'm not sure what leakage refers to? Does it mean that sound escapes, and if so, how bad is it (people walkin by can hear, someone in the next room) and would I lose any sound quality? From the looks of thins, the Sony MDR7506 are in 1st place(how can I as a PC88mx user go against Mike Martin!!?? ), with the Grado Labs sr-80 and AKG 240 running neck and neck in second place...I'm gonna see if I can find a store that has all 3 and see which one I like the most....but if anyone has other suggestions, I'm always open to suggestions
freddynl Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 sennheiser HD series. I use them since the early eighties. Tried lot's of other brands (akg's , sony's etc..) Best sound and wearing comfort are still the HD series of Sennheiser, and they are cheap, so best value for money as well. (I replace them once in 5 years roughly) They might be a lot cheaper in holland though as in usa..? gigging favorites at the moment LP Special order 1973 and PRS custom 24
burningbusch Posted August 28, 2002 Posted August 28, 2002 I also recommend looking into the Sennheisers. I've been using HD580s for several years, having moved up from the Sonys and AKGs. They are in the $200-$300 price range. One nice thing about the Sennheisers is that you can get replacement parts on the web. The cable, for example, is removeable and can be easily replaced if it shorts out. You can order replacement parts directly from Senn on the web. http://www.sennheiserusa.com/ Busch.
S_Gould Posted August 29, 2002 Posted August 29, 2002 Yeah, the Sennheisers kick some serious booty. I've had my HD540s for 15 years, and added some HD600s this year. I also have some Beyerdynamic DT911s and 831s in the studio, and they're almost as nice as the Sennheisers. Had some Koss 4AAs which sounded good, had good isolation, but were uncomfortable as hell. Scott
tenthplanet Posted August 29, 2002 Posted August 29, 2002 Sonys are Ok...provided you don't do listening tests vs AKG's and Grado's. Also try Nakamachi's if you come across them. Grado Sr-40's are worth checking basically the same drivers as the Sr-60's but they tend to be more comfortable and cost less. Michael Q:What do you call a truck with nothing in the bed,nothing on the hitch, and room for more than three people in the cab? A:"A car"....
Pim Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 Closed sytem: Beyer DT-150 Open (best sounding): Beyer DT-990Pro My Music I always wondered what happened after the fade out?
Dave Bryce Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 Originally posted by schmoron13: A quick question: I'm not sure what leakage refers to? Does it mean that sound escapes, and if so, how bad is it (people walkin by can hear, someone in the next room) and would I lose any sound quality?Yes, leakage refers to sound escaping from the phones. The issue isn't necessarily loss of sound quality, it's microphones picking the leakage up. Most people don't use phones to mix, they use them when they're tracking audio in which case that whole leakage thing can be a drag. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network
Ed A. Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 Originally posted by synthetic: The Sony MDR-V6 is a great closed headphone.I agree, I have three of the MDR-V6's in my studio and I think they sound great. Incidentally, they are the exact same headphones as the Sony MDR7506, except the MDR-V6 was sold in hi-fi shops instead of pro music stores.
VanZea Posted August 30, 2002 Posted August 30, 2002 I use a Grado SR60 and it sounds fine! I also like it's sturdyness (if thats correct english). I can drop it and it doesn't fall appart. It als has a nice thick cable... Grtz, Jeroen
Postman Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 Another vote for the Grado SR60s. I've never heard better headphones. Expensive, though. I can't vouch for their sturdiness (yes, that's a word), though. The right earpiece detached from the headset about three months after I bought them and I can't find the right adhesive to reattach them: it keeps coming off. Not good for live mike recording. Too much leakage. I use my K240s most of the time for playing. They're very comfortable.
EDinWestLA Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 Another vote for the Grado SR60s. I've never heard better headphones. Expensive, though. They usually sell for $US70. Maybe expensive for you, but not for me. I do agree that they do leak enough to make a problem for live mike recording. I own a set of Grado made Alessandro MS-1 cans, and they do sound great. Enough so that I hadn't even bothered with Senns, AKG's or Etymotics. But that's just me.
Postman Posted August 31, 2002 Posted August 31, 2002 Wow, maybe I have the 80s. I can't find them right now. One of my kids may have them. They're about five years old. I remember paying maybe $250 for them. Hmm. At $70, they're hard to beat.
impuls Posted September 2, 2002 Posted September 2, 2002 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Beyerdynamic headsets..!? DT 770 pro (closed) and DT 990 pro (open) is my definate favourites. more info on these can be found at beyerdynamic.de - check them out!
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