Help! MOTU AV problems!

[Valkyrie Sound]

AAAGGGHHH!

 

I've re-installed my system and I'm having problems getting my MOTU AV serial working again.

 

I'm on a G4 with a stealth port..

 

When I try to configure routings in Clockworks and hit save.... it scans the modem port (OK), I see lights indicating communication on the AV, then when it goes to writing to the AV I get an OMS error: There is a MIDI transmission problem on the modem port. Either the interface is missing or too much MIDI data is being sent. It then gives me the choice to reset or forget the port.

 

Clockworks opens fine... OMS and clockworks both see the AV. When a use verify network in Clockworks it's OK. But when I try to send configurations it fails.

 

Help.... I'm a midiot!

Valky

[Dan South]

I'm not sure what your application is, but I would suggest (if at all possible) -

 

- don't use clockworks. You don't need it.

 

- don't use OMS unless you're running an Opcode product.

[Valkyrie Sound]

Originally posted by Dan South:

I'm not sure what your application is, but I would suggest (if at all possible) -

 

- don't use clockworks. You don't need it..

Is there another way to program the I/O on the

AV....without using the front panel?

 

don't use OMS unless you're running an Opcode product.[/QB]

Welcome to Pro Tools!

 

Valky

[David R.]

Hi Valky,

 

I just got mine figured out and agree with Dan, don't use OMS unless you really need it. MOTU products like Freemidi, you might even say that motu created freemidi. Go ahead and say it.

 

I had no problems with clockworks, untill yesterday when it crashed my mac and cleaned the memory of the AV. Easy to load back after reboot.

 

Good luck.

[JonnyClueless]

Sometimes (though probably not in this case) you need to reset the stealth port by zapping the P-RAM.

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

Reconfigure OMS, even though it shouldn't need it, and re-start?

 

I hate problems like this...they drive me insane. It's a close second to sorting through a beach ball-sized mound of cable spaghetti.

 

Good luck. Rebuild your desktop and may the Force be with you.

 

- Jeff

[b_3guy]

Maybe this is a job for OMS Emulator. Just do a search for it at Yahoo or your favourite search engine. It's a free download. If you can't find it, I have it & it's emailable.

[Dan South]

I can't believe that ProTools requires OMS to run MIDI. How stupid is THAT? OMS has been dead for three years. There will be no OMS for OS-X.

 

Why do you need to program the MIDI interface. It's just a black box with ins and outs. Anything you want to do, you should be able to do in the sequencer. The hardware is just there to enable your synths to physically hook up to the computer. You'll drive yourself nuts if you try to program some things at the interface level and others in the program itself. DON'T DO IT!

 

Repeat after me:

 

No Clockworks!

No Freemidi! (unless you're using Performer)

No OMS under ANY circumstances!

[David R.]

Dan, now I will dissagree with you. In my setup, I have a bunch of sound modules and a keyboard controller. Yesterday, the client wanted to audition sounds. In a flash, using clockworks, I had three different setups where I could send my midi from the controller to any module I wanted without touching any cables. Then, when we found the sound, record into DP3 again without repatching.

 

You need some midi interface program/protocall if you use your computer as the sequencer.

 

By the way, anyone want to buy an MMT-8?

[Valkyrie Sound]

Ugh.... I tried reconfiging OMS.... I'm on a fresh intsall of the OS (9.2.2).

 

Dan: I'm an "audio" chick.... I don't even use the sequencer part of PT.... but PT still needs OMS. Yes, I really do need to config the AV routing in the box.... I need to route my MMC, MTC, and DA7 automation around the studio.

 

Ugh... it's been one of those weeks.....

 

Valky

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

Originally posted by Valkyrie Sound:

Ugh.... I tried reconfiging OMS.... I'm on a fresh intsall of the OS (9.2.2).

This was working fine on 9.2.2 before you did the install, right?

 

My OMS stuff was working on 9.1, and I left it there. Someone, somewhere, mentiuoned some problem with 9.2.2 that sounded eerily similar to what you're dealing with.

 

Of course, if it was working before with 9.2.2, disregard all of the above.

 

- Jeff

[David R.]

Valky, if you have Freemidi or can download it but are damned to OMS, maybe set up a partition (lots of work for something that should be simple) and have that run Freemidi. They can both exist on one system but there are tweeks that must be observed and I forgot what they are. Or, enable the FM extentions to program your AV, then dissable.

[Dan South]

Originally posted by David R.:

Dan, now I will dissagree with you. In my setup, I have a bunch of sound modules and a keyboard controller. Yesterday, the client wanted to audition sounds. In a flash, using clockworks, I had three different setups where I could send my midi from the controller to any module I wanted without touching any cables. Then, when we found the sound, record into DP3 again without repatching.

 

You need some midi interface program/protocall if you use your computer as the sequencer.

Can't you just do that in your sequencer? I'll admit that I've been spoiled by the power of Logic, but even lowly old Vision enabled the creation of custom instruments, layers, etc.

[Dan South]

Originally posted by Valkyrie Sound:

Ugh.... I tried reconfiging OMS.... I'm on a fresh intsall of the OS (9.2.2).

 

Dan: I'm an "audio" chick.... I don't even use the sequencer part of PT.... but PT still needs OMS. Yes, I really do need to config the AV routing in the box.... I need to route my MMC, MTC, and DA7 automation around the studio.

 

Ugh... it's been one of those weeks.....

 

Valky

Do you mean to tell me that EVERY Pro Tools user out there is using OMS? Even the ones who are on NT? Does that mean that PT will never run on OS-X? I find it hard to believe that Digi would marry their expensive software to an extinct protocol.

[Valkyrie Sound]

Yeap... all the MAC PT users need OMS...

 

That's probably one of the bigger reasons why a PT version for OSX is taking so long....

 

Valky

 

PS: Jorge Hamilton from Kurzweil: If you're still reading this.... drop me a note via email: sherri@vsoundinc.com

I'm a little slow at returning phone calls these days....Thanks!

[steadyb]

Valky,

[Valkyrie Sound]

Originally posted by steadyb:

Valky,

What happened to my suggestion?

 

Valky

[b_3guy]

I'll say it again, sounds like a job for OMS Emulator. Free download, check your favourite search engine.

[steadyb]

Originally posted by Valkyrie Sound:

Originally posted by steadyb:

Valky,

What happened to my suggestion?

 

Valky

I felt it was just too Logical

for this thread.