Rod S Posted July 9, 2002 Posted July 9, 2002 Just curious about what you folks that use Windows SoundDiver are doing. Are you just going to keep using it as if nothing is happening, or are you planning to switch over to another program, like SoundQuest? I'm not sure personally. I haven't quite mastered a lot of the functions, so this would be a good time to switch. I'm pretty happy with it though, and the program seems to be pretty mature (the current version I think is already in update #4), so this program is probably good to go for a few years anyhow. Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760
Markyboard Posted July 10, 2002 Posted July 10, 2002 I use SD for programming my Wavestation, Z1, 2- FS1Rs and E4 . Since none of these are likely to change in the near (or far) future SD should work for me for a long time. My next synth is probably the Andromeda and if SD doesnt support this I can still live with its interface for programming. I also paste all the names into Logic. This is a big time feature to my way of working so I would not want to switch to another editor/librarian. If Logic really gets new features I cant live without I might be forced to switch to an (cough) Apple at which point I would switch over SD as well. But again Logic does everything I need for a long time and since I'm not big into any Plug ins ( synth or effects) I dont see this as much of a problem. BTW I understand that Apple has decided that audio recording and soft synths under the Emagic flavor are where the dollars are in the future and MIDI is basically dead. Since they sell no additional computers from supporting the latest Yamaha Korg/Roland or whoever MIDI product the next versions of Logic and SD post Sept 30 will no longer support any MIDI functions.
Rod S Posted July 10, 2002 Author Posted July 10, 2002 I see your point about integration with Logic; however I don't use Logic - I was actually planning to checking it out; not anymore. Anyone else out there? Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760
soapbox Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Rodrigo, I'm sorry for your predicament. I believe that I was one of those who recommended SoundDiver to you. I'm sad to see that it turned out this way. I'm in a similar situation with my Korg OASYS PCI card. Korg discontinued OASYS development on both PC and Mac earlier this year. That means there will be no OS X or XP versions of the Korg OASYS software. As with Emagic's Windows policy, Korg will continue support, but not development. I have decided that I will follow Korg's advice for continued use of OASYS. After all of my other applications have released OS X versions, I will dedicate my current computer solely to running OASYS; and I will buy a new Mac for my OS X programs. I would have gotten a new Mac anyway, considering that my current Mac is already over two years old. My feeling is that if you spent your money on something, and it does what you want it to, you might as well use it as long as it suits your needs. Okay, so it's a dead-end program. Most keyboards are essentially dead-end programs too, but this fact doesn't stop us from buying them. If I were in your shoes, I'd stick with Windows SoundDiver until it's no longer useful or until a great competitive upgrade offer from an equally good product comes along. You seem to like it. You might as well get your money's worth out of it. Good luck, Geoff Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article
Umbra Posted July 12, 2002 Posted July 12, 2002 and MIDI is basically dead. Interesting, without midi how do they plan to control those softsynths?
Markyboard Posted July 14, 2002 Posted July 14, 2002 Picture an Apple keyboard controller - clear lucite matching all the other lame looking Apple equipment with its own protocol over firwire - but I've said too much already - not that I know anything (hee hee)
Super 8 Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Markyboard: Picture an Apple keyboard controller - with its own protocol over firwire The wonderful thing about MIDI was that it was designed to be universal. Is Apple trying to dump MIDI and go with something proprietary? This seems like a step backwards, but I guess Apple wants to consolidate their gains. So basically you're either in the Apple camp or you're out. This might be good for Apple, but it's going to hurt the end users. Screw 'em. Time to move on. I certainly wouldn't want to end up with some overpriced, proprietary, computer/software system that doesn't do anything appreciably better than the PC side does. Don't get me wrong. I'm not biased toward or against Apple. I'll use whatever lets me get the job done. I know Apple has a well established reputation in sound/video. But I know when I'm being taken to the cleaners too. I have no intentions of supporting Emagic or Apple. The more specialized they get, the more expensive they'll get, and the more underpowered they'll end up being. Time to dump them and start with something less limiting. Super 8 Hear my stuff here
steadyb Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Markyboard: I understand that Apple has decided that audio recording and soft synths under the Emagic flavor are where the dollars are in the future and MIDI is basically dead. Since they sell no additional computers from supporting the latest Yamaha Korg/Roland or whoever MIDI product the next versions of Logic and SD post Sept 30 will no longer support any MIDI functions.Put the bong down and quit making shit up. ...or at least quit making shit up.
steadyb Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Super 8: The wonderful thing about MIDI was that it was designed to be universal. Is Apple trying to dump MIDI and go with something proprietary?See previous post.
Markyboard Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 "BTW I understand that Apple has decided that audio recording and soft synths under the Emagic flavor are where the dollars are in the future and MIDI is basically dead. Since they sell no additional computers from supporting the latest Yamaha Korg/Roland or whoever MIDI product the next versions of Logic and SD post Sept 30 will no longer support any MIDI functions." Apologies to those who took my frustrated sarcasm a little to serious. Also my follow up reply was obnoxious but hey when you're on a roll... what can I say. Didnt intend to piss people off here. It does appear to hit at the techno addiction/dependence we have on this stuff. My post on Apple's next acquisition is my opinion only.
steadyb Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by Markyboard: Apologies to those who took my frustrated sarcasm a little to serious. Didnt intend to piss people off here. My post on Apple's next acquisition is my opinion only.That's all I'm saying. I understand the frustration of Logic Windows users and have not commented on anyone's rant or venting of anger. I just want to avoid misinformation and speculation about Apple or Emagic's future plans being somehow taken as fact, when clearly it is not. No hard feelings. p.s. You meant "too" serious, didn't you???
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