AliAlexandre Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 What is the "best" (= realistic and convenient) emulation of a Hammond B3 organ among the 3 following products : - Roland expansion SRJV Keyboards 60s/70s - Native instrument B4 software - Emu B3 expander (more expensive than the 2 others) FYi, it is for recordings only, no live situation, and I intend to pass the sound through a Rotovibe pedal (to emulate a Leslie) and in a Fender Champ Tube amplifier that I will mike in order to get a more organic sound. This may I think compensate for a probable "chemical" or "clinical " sound of these electronic machines. Thank you for your help Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 I have the Roland board and the NI-B4. I have also spent a lot of time with the E-mu ROM. B4 is the most realistic sounding and I don't think you need to run it through anything to improve the sound. The JV ROM is pretty decent for live situations but I don't think I would record with it. I sometimes use it to play parts while recording midi data, then change to the B4 when recording the sound. This gets me past any latency issues that bug me while recording. The E-mu may now be the best value for live playing if you do not need drawbars. I see non-factory sealed units going for $400 now. For realism it does not match up to the B4. Robert Another edit, another dead typo. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 B4. Kcbass "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 B4!!! Amazing piece o' software! Emagic has their Hammond sim coming out soon. It's likely to be a contender as well. Plus, it has many different leslie models available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 B4 by a mile. I have a jv synth and can get results close to the 60's and 70's board through careful programming. Doesn't get the warmth, the overdrive, the leslie anywhere close to the B4. That's before considering real time control. The Korg emulator is prety decent too... but it's big money. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 and I intend to pass the sound through a Rotovibe pedal (to emulate a Leslie) and in a Fender Champ Tube amplifier that I will mike in order to get a more organic sound. This may I think compensate for a probable "chemical" or "clinical " sound of these electronic machines.I would go with B4 too...it's the best I've heard but don't send it though a pedal...B4's Leslie simulation is better than any pedal. Running it through a small Amp is a very good idea but only if you're happy with a Mono sound. I would use a combination of both if I were you, record the B4 to stereo and record a third track of the Champ...mix to taste. BUT nothing sounds as good the real thing IMO. http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Another B4 fan here. It's the best sounding B3 emulation that I've heard to date, period. It's well worth its asking price. Don't take our our word for it - download the demo version . dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 One other clarification...the Champ track should be a straight organ sound with no Leslie effect if you want that classic rock sound. For Example...I run my Hammond M102 to both a Leslie and a Fender Twin at the same time...the Leslie is mic'd stereo and the twin sits in the middle...you should be able to get a very similar effect with the B4...play around with it. Of course, you might hate that sound to...just telling you what I'd do http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Fortner Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 I'm a B4 fan, too. When recording, I now use my ROland VK-7 to play the parts live. B4 mixes really well, too. On the hardware side, for live gigging, I'm pretty impressed with the new Korg CX-3. It's come down a bit in price lately. Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Indeed, the B4 is absolutely astounding. I've fooled more than a few people with it. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Ditto to what everyone else has said regarding the B4. Additionally, with the Roland 60/70 and I believe the Emu as well, you're getting snapshots of B3s. The beauty of the B and one of the reasons it's so fun to play is that it is so easy to interact with it. Players are constantly changing drawbar settings, percussion and chorus on/off, Leslie fast/slow, etc. You can do all of this with the B4 but not with the others as they tend to be static snapshots of B3s. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliAlexandre Posted June 2, 2002 Author Share Posted June 2, 2002 Thank you all for your kind help. Did not realize the B4 was that good! I will try the demo version and will most certainly buy it Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadell Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 I have B4 and 60's&70's. I prefer B4 but anytimes I record Hammond sound using a Roland 1080 with the 60's & 70's expansion board thru an amplifier with a little overdrive, it sounds great (I use a Fender HotRoad). Valentí Adell www.valentiadell.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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