Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 No, really. I do. I need six little tiny controller keyboards for our NAMM booth, used for GigaStudio demo workstations. They can't be more than 19" wide to fit on a workstation. Here are the other criteria: - MIDI...Not USB. - Velocity sensitive. - Mini-keys are okay. - Number of keys is rather irrelevant, but at least a couple of octaves would be nice. That's about it. I've been looking into a couple of possibilities, but if you know of something off the top of your head, please help me out...I may not have considered whatever make/model you may suggest. Thanks in advance. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 What about a K2500XS? Plenty of octaves, plus it already samples, so you wouldn't need the Giga, and it has a pitch ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 If that won't work, you might want to go with 6 tiny controller keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Seibert Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 If you don't mind the competitors logo, I have a Casio CZ101 that almost fits your dimensions. Would be very retro. Just a thought. You could probably get several for cheap. Gregg Gregg Without music, life would be a mistake - Nietzche QSC K10, Kurz PC3, K2500x, K2000R, Korg Z1, Roland A80, Roland S-750, 1970 MiniMoog, Synthi AKS, bunch of old rack modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: - MIDI...Not USB. Why? The 16.5" 25 key Oxygen8 is exactly what you're looking for, except for the USB/MIDI thing. Are you really gonna show Giga with pre-USB computers? If not, then why no USB? I don't know anyone else who makes keyboards that fit your criteria...Fatar makes the StudioLogic CMK-37 , which is their smallest controller. It has 37 keys, and is a fine choice but it's bigger than 19" (not much bigger - it's 23.6 "). That's all I got. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: No, really. I do. I need six little tiny controller keyboards for our NAMM booth, used for GigaStudio demo workstations. They can't be more than 19" wide to fit on a workstation. Here are the other criteria: - MIDI...Not USB. - Velocity sensitive. - Mini-keys are okay. - Number of keys is rather irrelevant, but at least a couple of octaves would be nice. That's about it. I've been looking into a couple of possibilities, but if you know of something off the top of your head, please help me out...I may not have considered whatever make/model you may suggest. Thanks in advance. - Jeff If all else fails, use three keyboards, split them electrically, and split them mechanically. To split them mechanically, just use a divider to go in the middle of your boards. Make the divider with quick start instructions, product announcements, pictures or whatever you think will make them fit into the presentation. Just a idea, I don`t claim it to be good. Casey "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvster Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Yo J, The Oxygen 8 should actually work fine. It has a standard MIDI out (default transmit channel 1) in addition to the USB stuff, and can be powered with an AC adapter. You could also check out the Roland/Edirol PC-160a, but I'm betting you'd rather have Midiman product in your booth. ;-) See you there! Marv [ 12-27-2001: Message edited by: Marvster ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 27, 2001 Author Share Posted December 27, 2001 Thanks all, for the replies. Let's see now: steadyb: shaddup, fool. Put that Kurz where the sun don't shine. gregg: I loved my Cheesy-101 back in the day, but yeah, it's pretty darn retro...not necessarily in a good way...for this application. Thanks, though. dB and Marvster: I really like the Midiman Oxygen 8 (and all the Midiman people, by the way). I was under the impression, mistakenly, that it only had a USB port. It's probably the right idea, now that I know it has a MIDI out. Why do I have the issue with USB? Well, the fact is that latency and jitter are not optimized over any USB line for MIDI (serial and other classic interfaces test much better), and I'd like to be able to show off Giga's low latency without handicapping it via the keyboard. kc: No, each station needs its own keyboard, but thanks. In doing more research, there's also a little Yamaha and a little Roland that would fit the bill, but I don't like either of them too much. I'd prefer the Oxygen 8, so I'm talking to my Giga guy some more today to make sure it works for our application. I'll let you know what we decide. Thanks again, all. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraldo Rivera Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 i don't know much about NAMM, but i'd guess that midiman would love to see 7 oxygens in your booth. Jeff, would you mind mentioning the models of the "little Yamaha and a little Roland that would fit the bill..."? i've been looking for a small controller for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted December 28, 2001 Author Share Posted December 28, 2001 Originally posted by left elbow fade: i don't know much about NAMM, but i'd guess that midiman would love to see 7 oxygens in your booth. Yeah, that's always cool for companies. We're pals with those guys, so I'm glad to help them if it works for what we need. I think it will. Jeff, would you mind mentioning the models of the "little Yamaha and a little Roland that would fit the bill..."? i've been looking for a small controller for awhile. The Yammy is the CBXK1. Here is some more info: http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/DsplyModel/?gMCD00005CBXK1 I thought there was a model of Roland that was also small, but it turns out to be an Edirol (the educational division of Roland). But, for some reason, I can't get on their site right now. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvster Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 The Roland/Edirol is the PC-160A. Go to the Edirol site and click on Keyboard Controllers to find it. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 Evolution makes the MK-125: a two-octave keyboard with full-sized keys, pitch and mod wheels, and a MIDI out. Edirol carries it for $105 http://www.edirolextra.com/shop/prod-page.ddp?itemcode=386103&session=41222493 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthetic Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Novation also makes a tiny controller keyboard, or at least they used to. When I was working for Roland customer service, we had someone write to us and ask for a tiny keyboard to fit a small set of dimensions. It couldn't be a controller/rack, it had to be all in one. It turns out that the keyboard was for his prison cell. Unfortunately, we had nothing to fit his needs and lost another critical sale in the underrated prison cell market. -jl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 I'd love to see a Gigasampler in a booth with a Mac (hint, hint!)... Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan O Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Fatar MK4901's ! 49 minikeys ! Dano www.esnips.com/web/SongsfromDanO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 Originally posted by Marvster: Yo J, The Oxygen 8 should actually work fine. It has a standard MIDI out (default transmit channel 1) in addition to the USB stuff, and can be powered with an AC adapter. You could also check out the Roland/Edirol PC-160a, but I'm betting you'd rather have Midiman product in your booth. ;-) See you there! Marv [ 12-27-2001: Message edited by: Marvster ] Is it velocity sensative? I cannot find that in the specs. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvster Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 Originally posted by Rabid: Is it velocity sensative? I cannot find that in the specs. I haven't received mine yet, but I'm pretty sure it is. The specs say 25 "dynamic" keys, which is a consumer-style way of saying "velocity-sensitive." The MIDI implementation chart (available in the online manual) also shows that it transmits velocity -- which could mean it transmits fixed values, but I don't think so in this case. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeon Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 Just get 6 Clavia Nord Modulars and be done with it. I checked, and they meet your stated requirements to a T. Go tell someone you love that you love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renie Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Hi Jeff I'm looking for something similar, what did you decide on in the end, and did it work out OK? Cheers Renie Renie Coffey | riverattic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george costanza Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 (temporarily filling in for Wewus)... ...& a partridge in a pear tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted August 2, 2002 Author Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by rivery: I'm looking for something similar, what did you decide on in the end, and did it work out OK?Threads that get revived after more than a month always freak me out. What I ended up doing at Winter NAMM was eliminating two of the Giga demo stations, so I only needed four keyboards. With the extra space, I was able to go with 76-key Fatar controllers (Studiologic, I guess) instead of itty-bitty synths. I would have used the Oxygens if I needed six little guys. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Why not EIGHT tiny keyboards played by eight tiny reindeer? Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted August 2, 2002 Author Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by whitefang: Why not EIGHT tiny keyboards played by eight tiny reindeer?Why not an infinite number of pink monkeys at an infinate number of typewriters? Ten Keyboard Korner Kredits to the first person that can name that reference (it's an easy one). - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpel Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Well, I don't remember who was responsible for it, but it's the old Monkeys writing Hamlet thing. Check out the Sweet Clementines CD at bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfjunkie Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: Ten Keyboard Korner Kredits to the first person that can name that reference (it's an easy one). - Jeffit was in Hitchhiker's Guide, but i think it was around before that. incidentally, the harmony central forums seem to prove the theory invalid. hey, did you say "KKK" up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted August 2, 2002 Author Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by ....wager47: it was in Hitchhiker's Guide, but i think it was around before that.Yes, and yes. 10 kredits for you. hey, did you say "KKK" up there? Yes, and the fact that I had to stop and think about it before posting it is a sad commentary on its own. Luckily, as a person of mixed racial background, I can get away with damn near anything. It's good to be a mutt in this day and age. To the Easily Offended: mentally change it to Ceyboard Corner Credits. - jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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