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hangee_77

By hangee_77
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Dan O

Dan O

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Hangee,

Have you read up on HOW TO SAMPLE with your emu ?

Have you installed additional memory ?

I believe that the Esynth has upto 128megs . Definately 64 megs ! MEgs increases the lenght of time you can sample !

I do not own this keyboard , so I can not give you step by step instructions .

However ....sampling the sounds into the EMU esynth is the answer .

Where are you going to get your samples from ?

Once you succesfully sample the sounds , you will be able to edit them . dano

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Marc Cooreman

Marc Cooreman

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Hangee,

 

Make sure you have EOS 4.10

If you don't have the manual, go here

 

http://www.emu.com/products/esynthKeys/pdf_manual.html

 

Take Sample Manage

Go to New Sample (on pg 8)

I have an Esynth keyboard - on the rear you have L&R sample inputs .

Get at least 64 MB ram

I got my Esynth linked via scsi to my B/W G3 & use BiasPeak to edit samples , works great !

Also bought an internal HD , a scsi cdromplayer .

And GOOD scsi cables (mine are Granite)

 

Cheers,

Marc

 

[ 12-26-2001: Message edited by: Marc Cooreman ]

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Marc Cooreman

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take a look here

 

http://www.emu.com/products/esynthKeys/downloads.html

 

If your E-Synth Has 2 MB of CPU Flash Memory, i guess you can also use the FREE EOS 4.10 Classic software

 

Read on that page .......

......In order for EOS 4.10 Classic software to function in your E-Synth Keys, your E-Synth Keys is required to have 2 MB of CPU Flash memory. All E-Synth owners and E4 users who have purchased a ROM or Flash upgrade have 2 MB of CPU Flash. This enables these users to download EOS 4.10 Classic now without obtaining an upgrade kit.

 

If you're not sure how much CPU Flash memory you have, here's the procedure which will enable you to find out: 1) Turn your E-Synth Keys on; 2) Press Master; 3) Press Utils (F1); 4) Press About (F6); and, 5) Press Config (F4). You are now looking at a display which will tell you the configuration of your E-Synth Keys. If it says 2 MB, proceed to the next question ("Do You Need to Run Flash Prep?"). If not, you can ignore the question regarding Flash Prep, but you will need to purchase a kit in order to upgrade your E-Synth Keys. .......

 

Dont know if itll work on your E-Synth rack but at least you can try

 

Marc

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fv_dup1

fv_dup1

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Hi,

 

No, it is not true. See my post in the Buying My First Sampler thread. It first depends on the samples themselves. If you are sampling for yourself, the quality of the A/D converters is very important along with such things as mic, preamp, etc. Anything that you would worry about in a recording, you need to worry about in sampling sounds. There are a few more things to consider like sample level matching, looping, etc.

 

For acoustic instrument samples, something like Gigasampler may give you better quality because you can sample every note and use long samples. There are cases where it does not make a big difference and you can get excellent quality by using a hardware sampler with smaller sample sizes (and less samples).

 

Point is, many factors are involved. If you plan on doing a lot of your own sampling, research it a bit more to make an educated decision on what you need.

 

HTH,

fv

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Originally posted by hangee_77:

Ok, Thanks!!

Oh ya, by the way ...is it true that sampling real acoustic instruments on hardware sampler will sound terrible (less quality) comparing to the software sampler?

 

For most instruments programming and will make a bigger difference than the hardware/software choice as a sampler. You may find 1000 samples of a saxaphone, but when an expert gives attention to loop points and expressional controle you get a sample that blows the others away. The real difference between hardware and software is the amount of memory that can be dedicated to a single instrument. When you compare a 32 meg Steinway sample for hardware to a 1.5 gig sample for software you hear a difference.

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hangee_77

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Question again!

I have noticed that my Korg Trinity's preset acoustic instrument sounds are more realistic than my Emu E-synth's.

I am wondering, is that because of Trinity's fx processor is better than E-synth's or...?

Do I need to sample "expensive" sample cd's (ex: Ilio) to the E-synth, in order to get good samples.

Thanks.

 

Hanjaya C.

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fv_dup1

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Hi Hanjaya C.

 

Originally posted by hangee_77:

So, what kind of mic do you guys usually use for digital sampling?

 

That depends. Sampling is similar to recording. You would apply similar techniques and mics for sampling. That means that no one mic or mic pre will work in _all_ situations.

 

Question again!

I have noticed that my Korg Trinity's preset acoustic instrument sounds are more realistic than my Emu E-synth's.

I am wondering, is that because of Trinity's fx processor is better than E-synth's or...?

Do I need to sample "expensive" sample cd's (ex: Ilio) to the E-synth, in order to get good samples.

 

Listen more closely to the Trinity's acoustic instrument sounds. A big part of the good sound is coming from the Trinity's fx. If you listen to many of the individual samples themselves (without fx), you'll hear the loops quite easily. Check especially some of the solo violin loops. They are pretty bad.

 

In your comparisons, if you're listening to the E-Synth patches, well I agree with you. However, many of the professionally done sample libraries (like Ilio) are night and day to what you are hearing from the Trinity.

 

The thing is you have to decide if you can afford some of the sample CD-Roms or not. There are some duds in some of these CD Roms too. You have to be picky when spending the money on them IMHO. In some cases, even though you're buying a "Strings" CD, it may not suit every situation that you need to use it in. I have found that most of the Ilio (http://www.ilio.com) and Spectrasonics (http://www.spectrasonics.net) CD's are top quality with good programming. Some of the stuff that you can get from EastWest (http://www.soundsonline.com) is quite good also. However, they aren't as consistent as Ilio/Spectrasonics IMHO.

 

For using these types of CD libraries, you need a SCSI CD Rom drive in order to load them in unless you're using a software sampler (like Halion, Gigasampler, exs-24, etc.)

 

HTH,

fv

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