CP Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 I've been a R&B and Funk fan my hole life. So I know good groups like Earth,Wind & Fire, and Parliment/Funkadelic just to name two. I've always liked the Beatles. Put I've never paid attention to The Eagles. I have a friend who swears the Eagles are the greatest group ever, but I never really paid attention to them. However, since I've started taking piano lessons I am beginning to appreciate good music. I knew alot more Eagles songs than I thought. But I never knew they were such good musicians. I saw the "Hell Freezes Over" concert on VH1 and was blown away. Now I have to join the millions of fan and get their Greatest Hits album. By the way Happy Holidays everybody, and thanks for all the good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Is this a battle of the bands thread? the Eagles are tuff. When homey was singing I Can`t Tell You Why, I did something really un-manly. But before you spend all your money on Eagles stuff. Give "Led Zeppelin" a listen. I think the album is called "In Thru the Out Door". Some cuts off the album include" Fool in the Rain", "All My Love". What really exiting about Led Zeppelin is the tempo changes in just about all of their songs. Fast-slow-Fast again or vice-versa. Casey. Get the led out. "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP Posted December 23, 2001 Author Share Posted December 23, 2001 "I Can't Tell You Why" is one of all time favorite songs. I didn't know until two weeks ago it was the Eagles who sung it. The guy who sung that has a beautiful voice. Led Zepplin? I know they sold alot (understatement) albums, but aren't they more of a hard rock group (excuse my ignorance, I'm kinda new to rock groups) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Originally posted by CP: "I Can't Tell You Why" is one of all time favorite songs. I didn't know until two weeks ago it was the Eagles who sung it. The guy who sung that has a beautiful voice. That's Timothy B. Schmidt, the Eagles bass player. He does have a beautiful voice, and that is a great song. Phil O'Keefe did an amazing cover of that tune. His wife Sandy sang it - it's ridiculously good. Oh, yes - the Beatles are the greatest band of all time. Sorry. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio7 Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Dave, Here are a few Examples on Beatles, and there Chord Structure: The semantic shifts of the Beatles\' chords Sounds as well Antonio [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: Antonio7 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Let's not forget the Rutles! Or, for that matter, Spinal Tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Fortner Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 How about the band who wrote "Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening..." Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 KORN RULEZ! Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Actually, the Eagles are the one band whose music I generally like less than the individual efforts of the band members. I particularly like Joe Walsh's and Don Henleys solo records better. I also like Joe Walsh's first band, the James Gang, better. That's not to say that I dislike the Eagles. I just never liked them well enough to buy their records. (BTW, "I Can't Tell You Why" is my favorite Eagles song.) Long live "Funk 49!" Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 The Eagles, I love them - I hate them. Imagine 50% of the population in your country unemployed, lots of riods in the streets and The Eagles are singing "Take it easy". I hated The Eagles in those days. And still there is some hate left in me. The life video of "Hotel California" in 1976/,77, 7? (don't know exactly), with Don Henley both singing and playing the drums is a highlight in music. Just like Rembrandts Jewish Bride every stroke of Don is a piece of art. His timing is from out of this planet. His voice... just his voice! The guitar soli are not that strong at his recording, but what the heck?? My Music I always wondered what happened after the fade out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpel Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Dissenting voice.The Eagles are good musicians who practice decent songcraft, but it just doesn't cut me very deep. Especially, I've never been moved a micron by a Glen Frey song. I'm with Geoff: Joe Walsh's solo albums are great, and the James Gang are one of the most sorely under-appreciated bands in American rock. They were a tough and very original trio. The Eagles are I suppose the quintessential So-Cal rock band of their era, but give me Little Feat any day. I even prefer Fleetwood Mac. BTW, when I saw Joe Walsh live on the bizare "Confessor" tour many years ago, he mocked the Eagles by inhaling a large helium baloon then singing Depserado. Even so, everytime I hear it, I'm still blown away by the Walsh--Felder double lead in Hotel California. They are both such articulate guitarists with such great tone, and that solo(s) is a tour de force of taste and phrasing. Originally posted by soapbox: Actually, the Eagles are the one band whose music I generally like less than the individual efforts of the band members. I particularly like Joe Walsh's and Don Henley's solo records better. I also like Joe Walsh's first band, the James Gang, better. That's not to say that I dislike the Eagles. I just never liked them well enough to buy their records. (BTW, "I Can't Tell You Why" is my favorite Eagles song.) Long live "Funk 49!" Check out the Sweet Clementines CD at bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Originally posted by CP: "I Can't Tell You Why" is one of all time favorite songs. I didn't know until two weeks ago it was the Eagles who sung it. The guy who sung that has a beautiful voice. Led Zepplin? I know they sold alot (understatement) albums, but aren't they more of a hard rock group (excuse my ignorance, I'm kinda new to rock groups) The Eagles are SOFTrock and Led is HARD rock. But then take a good listen to Earth,Wind and Fire. IMHO those guys are soft to medium rock, just sung in a black key. (Please lol here.) Two good examples are "Kalimba Story" and "Changing Times". Casey P.S. I`m lucky I guess, I can find song I like in just about anybodies collection. "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted December 23, 2001 Share Posted December 23, 2001 Is there a better rock group than the Eagles? Is there a more arrogant ass than Don Henley??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botch. Posted December 24, 2001 Share Posted December 24, 2001 Originally posted by SteveFortner: How about the band who wrote "Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening..." Oh Yeah! Actually, I don't consider the Dan a "rock" group, more of a coolpop/jazzrock entity. Being a musician in a cover band, I can't help liking the Eagles just for the songwriting. It definitely helps that all five guys in my band sing and harmonize. The Eagles are probably best known for their slightly "country" sounding rock, but the true innovators in that vein are Timmy Schmidt's old band, Poco. Highly recommended if you like the Eagles. I wouldn't say the Eagles are the best rock band, but I dare say "Life in the Fast Lane" is the best rock song, ever. Lyrically, drive, vocals, tasteful flanging, storyline, it can't be topped. ("Satisfaction"?!? fuggedabowdit!) Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will www.puddlestone.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3keys Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 Is there a better group than the Eagles? Why yes - the Beatles! (I know this was already answered) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 Originally posted by Antonio7: Dave, Here are a few Examples on Beatles, and there Chord Structure: The semantic shifts of the Beatles\' chords Sounds as well Antonio [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: Antonio7 ] That was interesting, really enjoyed it. Casey "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhcomp45aol.com Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 The Doobie Brothers are the best real live rock band. Soapbox If you dont have James Gang Live you are missing their finest performance ever. Check it out. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Eagles? Rock? Do these words belong in the same sentence? When I hear "You Can't Hide Your Lyin' Eyes," I hear COUNTRY, not ROCK. Hotel California is reggae with a twelve-string. Don't get me wrong, I like the Eagles (except Lyin' Eyes, Take It Easy, and similarly lifeless, Barry Manilow-level tracks that seem to have been recorded as Christmas presents for their respective grandmas). But I would NOT classify the Eagles as a ROCK band. Pop, not rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenthplanet Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 I,m gonna take heat for this but..... Yes is better than the Eagles. Some of the Eagles stuff I like and I don't hate them but... And while he is not a group, Neil Young is better than the Eagles. Michael Q:What do you call a truck with nothing in the bed,nothing on the hitch, and room for more than three people in the cab? A:"A car".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Originally posted by CP: I've been a R&B and Funk fan my hole life. So I know good groups like Earth,Wind & Fire, and Parliment/Funkadelic just to name two. I've always liked the Beatles. Put I've never paid attention to The Eagles. So have I but I've been blessed enough to play R&B/Funk/Rock. Yep the Eagles are good, So is Led Zep, Eric Clapton, Steely Dan, The Who, Heart, The Beatles, The Stones et. al. They are just as legit as the whole host of unrecognized funk bands e.g. Jimmy Castor Bunch, Confunksion, The Brothers Johnson, Slave, Lakeside, Chic and all the other masters of funk. 'I guess its all about having open ears' RobT RobT Famous Musical Quotes: "I would rather play Chiquita Banana and have my swimming pool than play Bach and starve" - Xavier Cugat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Ditto about "I Can't Tell You Why". Killer song. Is there a better rock group? Several. The Beatles. The Stones. Led Zep. And a muscular unit that has not yet been mentioned... The E Street Band. OK, so Joe Walsh is arguably a stronger guitarist than, say, Nils Lofgren (Nils may have better chops, Joe has more R&R attitude). But this is a Keyboard forum, right? Roy Bittan, Danny Federici, and former keyboardist David Sancious? Please! Bittan is one of the most underappreciated keyboard players in the past 25 years. Max Weinberg/Gary Tallent are a more powerful rhythm core than Don Henley/Tim Schmitt (Henley/Schmitt on vocals are hard to beat, though). Add to all this the pure swagger of Little Steven (a better actor on The Sopranos than Glen Frey was on Miami Vice) and Clarence Clemons. And we haven't even mentioned the front man yet. I grew up musically during "Hotel California" and "The Long Run", and during "Born to Run" and "The River". I appreciate Springsteen more now than I did then, can't say the same for The Eagles. [ 12-26-2001: Message edited by: mzeger ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dave Bryce Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Originally posted by mzeger: Bittan is one of the most underappreciated keyboard players in the past 25 years. Agreed. I love the Professor. His style is definitely present in some of my piano playing. Thunder Road has been a fave of mine to play for more years than I care to remember. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Originally posted by mzeger: Max Weinberg/Gary Tallent are a more powerful rhythm core than Don Henley/Tim Schmitt (Henley/Schmitt on vocals are hard to beat, though). How about Henley/Felder? Tim Schmitt joined the Eagles post-Hotel California. I agree that Max is hard to beat, though. Also, there's a big difference in the energy level of a Springsteen show and an Eagles show. Hence my categorization of the Eagles as a pop band rather than a rock band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 I grew up during prime time for The Eagles. Now I consider them a 70s version of NSync or Backstreet Boys. Back then you played songs by the Eagles because they were popular and easy for any decent band to pull off. If you managed to put together a top band and wanted to show off you played Pink Floyd or Steely Dan. Eagles songs were easy to play and it was easy to sound good playing them. Steely Dan songs were easy to play but it was hell to make them sound good. I would place The Eagles behind The Beetles, Stones, Areosmith, Led Zepplin, Beach Boys, ZZ Top, Fleetwood Mac, Talking Heads, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Hanson This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Originally posted by dansouth@yahoo.com: How about Henley/Felder? Tim Schmitt joined the Eagles post-Hotel California. I agree that Max is hard to beat, though. Also, there's a big difference in the energy level of a Springsteen show and an Eagles show. Hence my categorization of the Eagles as a pop band rather than a rock band. I was just making a man-for-man drummer/bassist comparison. I only knew Felder as a guitarist, and I thought Bernie Leadon was the bassist before Schmitt. Good point about the live performance energy level, also true for the groups' recordings too. The Eagles were terminally "laid back" and never had an "intense" side of a wide emotional range, for lack of a better way of putting it. The Beatles had "Yesterday" and "Helter Skelter", the Stones "Wild Horses" and "Street Fighting Man", Springsteen "4th of July , Asbury Park (Sandy)" and "Born to Run". The Eagles had the ballads, but what's the most ass-kicking Eagles song? Already Gone? All Night Long? Life in the Fast Lane? Heartache Tonight? Lightweights all. The Eagles' most raucous moments pale in comparison to the quietest moments for Springsteen and the E Street Band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOKUMDANO Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I saw the Eagles early on when they were a 4 piece. Believe it or not, they were the opening act for Yes in Chicago. It was like watching a bored bar-band and of course Yes blew them away (I know..not fair, two different kinds of music) Saw them years later..same thing..only now there were five of them. I was always glad for Tim though (and "I Can't Tell You Why") cause he's really the only poor soul who successfully made it out of Poco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Originally posted by mzeger: I was just making a man-for-man drummer/bassist comparison. I only knew Felder as a guitarist, and I thought Bernie Leadon was the bassist before Schmitt. Oops! My fault! I was actually thinking of Randy Meisner, who played bass on Hotel CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhcomp45aol.com Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 Back around 1977 or so when Hotel California came out Twisted Sister was playing Victom of Love in the bars of Long Island almost every night. It was a great song and twisted put it over as hard, loud and powerful as anything they had ever done. Those were the days, Most of you guys missed it. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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