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One of the funniest things i have ever seen on this forum was that thread with all the band promo pics and there was the one that listed off the standard long hair, token this, token that, then out of the blue... "oates" and there is this guy who looked just like him all in the corner lookin not sure if he should be there or not. God i laughed my ass off, still giggling about that, classic. They had some good stuff, i especially like the Motown covers Darryl sang.
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For a few years they were at the top of the game. Rock and soul stirred into a pop stew. In the late 70's early 80's I was a big fan. I saw them last year in Michigan and they truly looked like they were just going through the motions. I always thought that they would be a very influential band. Sadly their biggest and longest running influence on the music biz has been Tommy Motolla.

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Hall and Oates is a classic example of what happens when you mix pop stardom and drug abuse. I've seen them touring recently, they are clean and sober, and sound better than ever. Sad that it took hitting such a low bottomf or them to realize their problems, but that is often the way.

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I was a fan in the early '80s. Well crafted pop songs, huge hooks, an excellent backup band including Tom "T-Bone" Wolk, Hall's strong vocals. For one of the most unusual collaborations in rock, check out Daryl Hall's "Sacred Songs". Daryl Hall and Robert Fripp (with Eno and Tony Levin). It works! "You Burn Me Up, I'm a Cigarette" is a great song. The album was originally conceived by Fripp as part of a trilogy with the second Peter Gabriel record and Fripp's own "Exposure". Daryl Hall, Peter Gabriel, Robert Fripp...reminds me of that Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the others" :D
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I absolutely hated them in their heyday, as they probably had the biggest egos in the business. But I have to admit their albums are great pop gems (they fall into my "Celine Dion" category, I don't mind listening to them if I don't have to watch them!) :D

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I believe the oxymoron you are looking for is "blue-eyed soul" ;) and truth be told, they were pretty damn good at it. [quote]Originally posted by whitefang: [b]Hall and Oates? Weren't they purveyors of one of my favorite oxymorons, "Philly Soul?" Whitefang[/b][/quote]

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just to be the devils advocate... I never liked 'Haulin' Oats'. Other than their first record, it's poppy fluff, IMO. I understand they were the most successful pop duo next to Simon & Garfunky. Oh, oh here she comes, watch out boys she'll chew you up, she's a man-eater. :freak: Matt
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I like 'em a lot. There's a tune on H2O, "Family Man"... super dope song. One of their more minor hits. Had a good video where they're rocking out in a suburban living room and it's pretty disturbing, with little computer graphics running around. "Adult Education" was another cool minor one. Then of course, all their earlier monster hits. I can't think of any I didn't like. They never did any crappy ballads, hooray. 'cept for maybe "One on One".
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I would die for Daryl Hall's voice. I think he had one of the male vocal instruments in the business. I understand he had an ego to match it. Oh well.
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[quote]Originally posted by coyote: [b]I believe the oxymoron you are looking for is "blue-eyed soul" ;) and truth be told, they were pretty damn good at it. [quote]Originally posted by whitefang: [b]Hall and Oates? Weren't they purveyors of one of my favorite oxymorons, "Philly Soul?" Whitefang[/b][/quote][/b][/quote]That'll work, too. But I'm referring to that bland, sugary, bubble-gum sounding "funk" played even by black groups coming out of Philadelphia at the time. Whitefang
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[quote]Originally posted by gratte: [b]There's a tune on H2O, "Family Man"... super dope song. "Adult Education" was another cool minor one. [/b][/quote] [quote]Originally posted by Dylan W: [b]The drum and synth bass into to "I can't go for that" has to be the cheesiest drum sound in the world, but I love it [/b][/quote]"Method of Modern Love" "Sara Smile" and others... Yeah, they just go down so well -They feel good to listen to. Like alot of Todd Rundgren's stuff. Nice groove, great sound, cool progressions. Like it or not, they don't write 'em like that anymore -and I wish they did!

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[quote]Originally posted by CMDN: [b]Two words: Abandoned Luncheonette Booyah.[/b][/quote]Oh yea. From there to the album with Sarah Smile on it. That was the very best shit, they get a mulligan for the War Babies album. (WTFWTT) It did start to get cheesy and poppy towards the end of the 70's. But they were still at the top of the cheesy pop mountain.

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[quote]Originally posted by Jotown: [b] [quote]Originally posted by CMDN: [b]Two words: Abandoned Luncheonette Booyah.[/b][/quote]Oh yea. From there to the album with Sarah Smile on it. That was the very best shit, they get a mulligan for the War Babies album. (WTFWTT) It did start to get cheesy and poppy towards the end of the 70's. But they were still at the top of the cheesy pop mountain.[/b][/quote]I really like most of the War Babies album, granted its a little more rock than soul. I just think Todd Rundgren had quite a influence on them as producer on this outing. You can here Todd all over it.
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That is actually what I didn't like about it. I love Todd Rungrens work as artist or producer, but that record sound more like a Todd record, not a Hall and Oates record. And the Glam Rock cover did not work for them one bit. Daryl Hall in drag is a pretty scary sight.

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I saw them years back, a local Philadelphia DJ, John DeBella, had his own TV show for about a week, and a buddy of mine won tickets to the taping. Hall and Oates were the musical guest. They had a new album out at the time, Change of Season, with a minor hit "So Close" that they played. It was the 2 of them and 2 band members playing accoustic guitars, and it sounded good. They came out again later and did "She's Gone" on accoustic guitars, and I was blown away. Some other classics that I love, "Fall in Philadelphia", "Say it Isn't So", "Wait for Me" I read that Hall used to do background vocal session work for another of my favorite bands, the Stylistics.
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