On target for COVER demo submission !

[Dan O]

Hello keyboard guru's ,

I decided to cover " DO,DO,DO etc Heartbreaker" R.Stones

I will send CD over the next few days ! Dano

[Dan O]

I hate a 0 next to my post ! Anyone else joining in the demo

????????? Dano

[D. Gauss]

when's the deadline, and where to send?

 

 

-d. gauss

[Bobro]

Oh yes. Actually the piece I'm doing had an earlier "deadline" that fortunately got extended, so I had a chance to streamline my setup and install the Samplitude upgrade. Still haven't got the upper octave of the Vermona analog successfully tuned, no tradgedy because there's a 2' setting which gets it high enough, but it's going to bug pretty soon I can tell. Got the schematics but you know how it is, you don't send your baby to just any doctor. The only guys I know I could trust are "south of the border" and I've had enough hassles at the border to last a lifetime.

 

I'm sure I've heard most of the Stones songs, but don't really know them by name, which one is Heartbreaker? Which is the one that goes Ooo-oo-Ooo-oo-Oo-oo-ooo... Ooo-oo-Ooo-oo-Oo-oo-ooo... that's a great song.

 

-CB

[Magpel]

Sure, it's from Goat's Head Soup (or was it Stew?), the same late-mid-period Stones album that yielded Angie. Actually, they've been around so long, it seems like have two examples of each period--late, middle, and early. Goat's Head was right around the time Mick Taylor left and Ron Wood signed on, though I actually forget which one was on that album.

 

I'm not even much of a Stones fan, in the final analysis, though I do dig Sticky Fingers, Get your Ya Yas out, Exile on Main Street, that sort of stuff.

 

My cover is progressing decently. It's the great, spooky Tom Waits song Jockey Full of Bourbon from the album Raindogs. I've decided I'm not going to handle the lead vocal myself. Actually, I'd like Cameron to do it, but given the "continental problem," my friend Dave, a great NYC voice-over talent, is going to have to suffice. Cameron, what song are you doing, or is it a secret?

 

John

 

 

Originally posted by Bobro:

Oh yes. Actually the piece I'm doing had an earlier "deadline" that fortunately got extended, so I had a chance to streamline my setup and install the Samplitude upgrade. Still haven't got the upper octave of the Vermona analog successfully tuned, no tradgedy because there's a 2' setting which gets it high enough, but it's going to bug pretty soon I can tell. Got the schematics but you know how it is, you don't send your baby to just any doctor. The only guys I know I could trust are "south of the border" and I've had enough hassles at the border to last a lifetime.

 

I'm sure I've heard most of the Stones songs, but don't really know them by name, which one is Heartbreaker? Which is the one that goes Ooo-oo-Ooo-oo-Oo-oo-ooo... Ooo-oo-Ooo-oo-Oo-oo-ooo... that's a great song.

 

-CB

[Bobro]

I guess the "middle period" Stones would be where most of the songs I like best would be found.

 

Listening to Jockey full of Bourbon as I type- love Tom Waits! Did Black Rider take off over there? It was big in the theaters here but I didn't get a chance to see it. Can't wait to hear your version of the tune, and flattered that you thought of me doing it, it's been a 15-year battle with the bottle so far to keep from sounding too Tom Waits too young The curse of a sturdy constitution is that nobody notices you've gone over the edge until it's too late to turn back.

 

Check out "Tilt" by Scott Walker, from the '97 or so. 100% main-ingredient stuff.

 

I'm doing "La Steaua", "Toward the Star", by Rumanian (Transylvanian) composer Nicolae Bretan (1928). It's not well known, but it should be. His daughter is actively promoting his music, the intro to the book of sheet music is by Frederica von Stade and Fred Calland (director, NPR). Bretan is one of the great unknowns of the 20th century, really swanky smoooooooooovvvvvv and romantic stuff that would be equally at home in a set with Stranger in Paradise and Man of La Mancha or with Schubert and Wolf. Like Borodin, it's the kind of stuff that can be played in a concert hall or in a smoky lounge.

 

I'm hoping that even if people don't like my rendition they'll recognize the composer and get the sheet music- got the sheet music from his daughter and met the guy who did some "definitive" recordings in the '70s; it's been years but I'd be honored to hunt down the addresses and info for anybody who's intrigued by the composer.

 

-CB

 

PS- Down By Law! That's the film with the Waits tune (and Tom Waits). Hehe, it's a sad and beautiful world. Been listening closely to Jockey Full of Bourbon- you picked a difficult song, John, it's very 3-D so to speak.

 

[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: Bobro ]

[soapbox]

Originally posted by Magpel:

I'm not even much of a Stones fan, in the final analysis, though I do dig Sticky Fingers, Get your Ya Yas out, Exile on Main Street, that sort of stuff.

 

I am a Stones fan and I agree. They hit their peak during "Sticky Fingers" and "Exile on Main Street." (I like "Exile on Main Street" best!) The only album that came close after that, IMHO, was "Some Girls."

[Dan O]

Well ......I hope everyone enjoys my rendition of this great Rolling Stones song ! It's a little funkier and I have added great vocal harmony's ................Dano

[Magpel]

Originally posted by Bobro:

PS- Down By Law! That's the film with the Waits tune (and Tom Waits). Hehe, it's a sad and beautiful world. Been listening closely to Jockey Full of Bourbon- you picked a difficult song, John, it's very 3-D so to speak.

 

[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: Bobro ]

 

Tell me about it. I wish I hadn't picked it now for two reasons. I'll never match the slapdash grandeur of the groove, and one thing you realize when trying to cover some Waits tunes is there's really only one way to sing them..like Tom Waits. Jockey doesn't allow much room for interpretation. So I'm afraid my cover is going to be pretty superficial, slavishly faithful in some respects, depthless mimicry in others, in which case I generally try to make it campy and funny. I think I'm heading toward a shticky approach informed by Burt Bacharach...mock noir for square swingers.

 

Yes Down by Law, great film, probably my favorite by Jarmusch. And Cameron, at your recommendation, I have checked out Scott Walker. Sounds like there may be one other person in this universe who is kind of on your musical wavelength. Unbelievable. I must get that CD. I want to get a Kosmolith CD too, but I'm not sure if I should wait for Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs.

[Bobro]

Originally posted by Magpel:

 

Tell me about it. I wish I hadn't picked it now for two reasons. I'll never match the slapdash grandeur of the groove, and one thing you realize when trying to cover some Waits tunes is there's really only one way to sing them..like Tom Waits. Jockey doesn't allow much room for interpretation. So I'm afraid my cover is going to be pretty superficial, slavishly faithful in some respects, depthless mimicry in others, in which case I generally try to make it campy and funny. I think I'm heading toward a shticky approach informed by Burt Bacharach...mock noir for square swingers.

 

Yes Down by Law, great film, probably my favorite by Jarmusch. And Cameron, at your recommendation, I have checked out Scott Walker. Sounds like there may be one other person in this universe who is kind of on your musical wavelength. Unbelievable. I must get that CD. I want to get a Kosmolith CD too, but I'm not sure if I should wait for Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs.

 

Burt Bacharach is one swanky guy- the soundtrack to the first James Bond film (the comedy with Peter Sellers and Woody Allen- forget what it's called) is fantastic.

 

I only recently discovered Scott Walker; he was huge in Europe way back when, "the blond Beatle", then got into Jacques Brel covers, then hid out for ten+ years, then busted out with THE album of the '90s, kind of a swan song for the 20th century. My teenage sister-in-law loves "Tilt", I think the industry vastly underestimates the potential sophistication of their audiences.

 

Best wait for Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs!, John, as the first album Imperial Orifices is going to sound better in retrospect. A,YSD! is finished but it's got to ferment before I master it.

 

Mock Noir for Square Swingers...you should patent that. Actually that would be great name for an album with Jockey Full of Bourbon, Bang Bang My Baby Shot Me Down, A Long Night, This Guy's in Love With You, Gloomy Sunday, Umbrellas of Cherbourg, A Man and a Woman (vooooz e moibadabada...what's that, ergot in the baguettes?), Ne Me Quitte Pas, Purcell's Cold Song...yeah!

 

-CB

[Bobro]

Hey Dano- it just hit me, I've never heard a Stones cover done with any other instrumentation than a more or less standard rock band. Are you doing everything on the keyboard?

 

 

-CB

[Dan O]

Bobro,

YES ! I have done everything on keyboard . I used a Ketron SD1 and a Tascamm 788 HDR ! Dano

[Magpel]

Originally posted by Bobro:

Hey Dano- it just hit me, I've never heard a Stones cover done with any other instrumentation than a more or less standard rock band. Are you doing everything on the keyboard?

 

 

-CB

 

Cameron, maybe it just didn't cross your mind, but I have a hard time believing you haven't heard or at least heard of Laibach's album of Sympathy for the Devil covers. Aren't they Slovenian? Ljubliana to be specific? (I've been there, BTW, before the re-balkanization or whatever one would call it--war, I guess).

 

Of course, like the Residents, Laibach is certainly liberal in their definition of covers. Kinda like the way Ezra Pound "covers" Chinese poetry.

 

[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: Magpel ]

[Bobro]

Originally posted by Magpel:

 

Cameron, maybe it just didn't cross your mind, but I have a hard time believing you haven't heard or at least heard of Laibach's album of Sympathy for the Devil covers. Aren't they Slovenian? Ljubliana to be specific? (I've been there, BTW, before the re-balkanization or whatever one would call it--war, I guess).

 

Of course, like the Residents, Laibach is certainly liberal in their definition of covers. Kinda like the way Ezra Pound "covers" Chinese poetry.

 

[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: Magpel ]

 

Hehe, Laibach. Actually that's the German name for Ljubljana and the band has this kind of...Teutonic image? Ironic? Laibach is more influential outside of Slovenia I think; I heard them more on college radio in California than I have in Slovenia. I prefer the less Western and more Yugo music of former Yugoslavia like Indexi, Bijelo Dugme, Josipa Lisac, but the idea of the Stones being covered in a kind of militant/industrial way sounds mighty entertaining.

 

And on a Ketron SD1, that's got to be off the beaten path!

 

 

-CB

[Magpel]

Cameron, I didn't assume that you liked Laibach, only that you'd heard of them. I've only heard their album Let It Be, a song for song cover of the Beatle's album, with the odd omission of the title track.

 

What's Ketron SD1? Dano? Cameron? Little help here? Do I have to wait for the Stones cover to find out?

 

Originally posted by Bobro:

 

Hehe, Laibach. Actually that's the German name for Ljubljana and the band has this kind of...Teutonic image? Ironic? Laibach is more influential outside of Slovenia I think; I heard them more on college radio in California than I have in Slovenia. I prefer the less Western and more Yugo music of former Yugoslavia like Indexi, Bijelo Dugme, Josipa Lisac, but the idea of the Stones being covered in a kind of militant/industrial way sounds mighty entertaining.

 

And on a Ketron SD1, that's got to be off the beaten path!

 

 

-CB

[Dan O]

The Ketron SD1 is a high end arranger keyboard made in Italy .

76 keys ....6 gig hard drive onboard , vocal harmony (mic input) 48megs dedicated to sound rom , "LIVE" drums ....Email me direct and I send a copy of the CD . You won't believe the sound quality I am gettig out of this very interesting keyboard . Dano

[Dave Bryce]

Originally posted by d gauss:

when's the deadline, and where to send?

 

Yo, brother VD...

 

This thread has all the pertinent info.

 

Looking forward to your submission! If it's as kick-ass as Voodoo Doll (my son's favorite cut on the FATCO CD), it'll be one of the highlights of the disc fer sure!

 

dB

[Pat Azzarello]

I'm in the middle of production for my cover. It's definitely 70's, but not necessarily the musical mainstream (though it definitely has been heard by just about anybody alive during the 70's). And it's definitely a fun one. It will be interesting to see if anyone else picks something from the same genre.

 

BTW - Just settling on one was difficult... I can't tell you how many times I started something, only to wake up in the middle of the night with a better idea....

[Jeff Klopmeyer]

My track is 99% done. Of course, that last 1% will make all the difference in the world.

 

I might as well let you know what I'm doing for this compilation track. As has been already guessed quite correctly, I'm doing a version of a Joni Mitchell track. Her original was very sparse, almost all piano with a little accent guitar and hi-hat. My version is extremely layered and heavy, with a completely different feel. Other than being in the same key, with the same lyrics and basic chord changes, it's a completely new tune.

 

I'll tell you up front, the thing is very guitar-heavy (as is a lot of pop/alt/rock music these days), but if you listen close, there are a couple of synth things going on in there as well, and a little piano intro that pretty true to the original (the only thing that I left alone).

 

It's the title track of her 1973 album "Court and Spark" and it's the coolest thing I've recorded in quite awhile (not that I've been recording much lately). All that's left is final mixing/mastering, and I'll deliver to Dave in a couple of weeks.

 

- Jeff

[joegerardi]

I'm way off in getting it done. It might not happen...

 

I haven't recorded anything in 10 years, and then it was always in the studio. I've never tried it all by myself before, and am having the devil's own time of it. I've never used a sequencer as a studio before, and this was more of an experiment to see if I could do it than anything else.

 

I can't seem to even get the basic tracks down. The piece I'm doing, Enya's "Shepherd's Moons" is played very freely, therefore I don't want to use a click track, but matching everything else is tough. I tried hitting 4 notes at the beginning to set my own tempo, but gettting all the layers down is a PITA.

 

Additionally, I haven't any idea yet how I'm going to mix it down dynamically, because I don't understand how to use a sequencer as a mixer.

 

You all might have noticed (or not) that I haven't been posting much lately. That's because I've been spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get this thing done.

 

I probably should have just gone into a studio to do it...

[Magpel]

Hey Joe, good to hear from you. I had in fact noticed your absence.

 

Do it! Get it done! If MIDI is not cooperating, track it in audio.

 

Originally posted by joegerardi:

I'm way off in getting it done. It might not happen...

 

I haven't recorded anything in 10 years, and then it was always in the studio. I've never tried it all by myself before, and am having the devil's own time of it. I've never used a sequencer as a studio before, and this was more of an experiment to see if I could do it than anything else.

 

I can't seem to even get the basic tracks down. The piece I'm doing, Enya's "Shepherd's Moons" is played very freely, therefore I don't want to use a click track, but matching everything else is tough. I tried hitting 4 notes at the beginning to set my own tempo, but gettting all the layers down is a PITA.

 

Additionally, I haven't any idea yet how I'm going to mix it down dynamically, because I don't understand how to use a sequencer as a mixer.

 

You all might have noticed (or not) that I haven't been posting much lately. That's because I've been spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get this thing done.

 

I probably should have just gone into a studio to do it...

[Magpel]

Hey Joe, good to hear from you. I had in fact noticed your absence.

 

Do it! Get it done! If MIDI is not cooperating, track it in audio.

 

Originally posted by joegerardi:

I'm way off in getting it done. It might not happen...

 

I haven't recorded anything in 10 years, and then it was always in the studio. I've never tried it all by myself before, and am having the devil's own time of it. I've never used a sequencer as a studio before, and this was more of an experiment to see if I could do it than anything else.

 

I can't seem to even get the basic tracks down. The piece I'm doing, Enya's "Shepherd's Moons" is played very freely, therefore I don't want to use a click track, but matching everything else is tough. I tried hitting 4 notes at the beginning to set my own tempo, but gettting all the layers down is a PITA.

 

Additionally, I haven't any idea yet how I'm going to mix it down dynamically, because I don't understand how to use a sequencer as a mixer.

 

You all might have noticed (or not) that I haven't been posting much lately. That's because I've been spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get this thing done.

 

I probably should have just gone into a studio to do it...