SampleFreak2 Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 In this months Keyboard BT said that he uses Logic to time correct his loops. The question I have is do you need Logic to time correct loops or can you use Pro Tools for that also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soapbox Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 Not only can you use ProTools for that, it will work more quickly, especially if you use the Beat Detective feature. Enthusiasm powers the world. Craig Anderton's Archiving Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted November 15, 2001 Share Posted November 15, 2001 I have all three of BT's releases and once wondered how he got the sounds in his drum machines to sound so much like real drums. Now I know. My question is why would you hire an excellent drummer to play your loops, then suck the life out of it by time correcting every ting. Not just flams and little timing flaws, but changing the feel to your pre-defined mathematically perfect grove placement rather than using the feel/time placement of the drummer? It may just be the drummer coming out in me, but as an ex-drummer I found that part of the process very insulting. Mayby that is the way tance works? This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthguy Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 I agree with Rabid. Quantization and time correction have squeezed the life out of music. I listen to older stuff done without a tempo track, and, by golly... it sounds like it's played by REAL LIVE HUMANS!! This fixation on perfection is a drag on music, I think. Then again I don't listen to much pop or electronica, so I miss most of that. This keyboard solo has obviously been tampered with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 Originally posted by synthguy: I agree with Rabid. Quantization and time correction have squeezed the life out of music. I listen to older stuff done without a tempo track, and, by golly... it sounds like it's played by REAL LIVE HUMANS!! This fixation on perfection is a drag on music, I think. Then again I don't listen to much pop or electronica, so I miss most of that. I think in BT's case, the time correction is because he is going for that "sound". It's his style of working/producing. The way his drum beats fit the music he does is what many people like about his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted November 16, 2001 Share Posted November 16, 2001 Other than style I am sure he has one other reason. Every loop in his vast library matches up perfectly. Don't take it that I don't like BT. I have purchased every release since I first heard Firewater. I just hate to see a good drummer loose his grove to a machine. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted November 17, 2001 Share Posted November 17, 2001 It may be necessary to "time correct" grooves if you're planning on layering them. Otherwise, they may clash. Besides, I don't agree that time correction "sucks the life out of" a groove. Groove has most to do with accents and the relative amplitudes of the notes than it does with timing variations, swing notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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