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I've been toying with the thought of owning a Motion Sound B-3 simulated sound system. I have yet to hear one of these beasts. Are they even close to the real thing? I remember carrying the real Hammond B-3 organ, peddles and all down two flights of stairs in a Frat house, with the Lesle speaker cabinet. I'm sweating just thinking about it. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif I didn't want to leave.........had to carry it back up the stairs.

 

I belive there is a simulated horn section and a separate bass module. Does anyone have one of these setups? What keyboard would work best with this package? What kind of price are we talking about in the market place?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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I don't own a Motion Sound product but played with one in a music store. Short of a real Leslie they're it. The overall sound will be more honky than a Leslie because of the differences in cabinets. The Leslie cabinet is much bigger than your Pro-3/combo amp, therefore a bigger sound. It's mid & low frequencies are more pronounced. The bigger the box, the bigger the sound. It's like a unplugged electric guitar versus an acoustic guitar. In this case it might be more like comparing a solid body electric to a semi acoustic. Still, it's better than an electronic Leslie simulator.

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Personally, if packing were the issue, then I would eschew the Hammond problem rather than the Leslie. In tight spaces, the old Porta-B Hammond run through a Leslies sounded pretty much "B-3" like.

 

Leslies are a lot easier to transport than B-3's. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

And, if the B-3 can fit down the stairs, through the door, on stage and back into the van, then the Leslie can as well.

 

These days, I would rather go with a Korg CX-3 and a 147 in tight situations. Or ~ if B-3 is not your main component of sound, then how about a reasonable fascimile from a modern synth? Heck, even the CX-3 on it's own sounded pretty good.

 

Frat house party? Jeez. Beer flying around and you're worried about sonic purity? My first priority would be how quickly I could have my rig packed and be chatting up sorority girls. Thus the CX-3 or even a Farfisa. Baddabingbaddaboom in de case, over to the bar, cap that beer and "why, hello! What's your major? My fiance goes here. Do you know Trish Yarts? What? She was killed in a kiln explosion? Gosh, we were to be married. I ~ I don't think I should be alone tonight . . would you . . mind if....we danced . . . toga! toga!"

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I own one - I run my A100 through it and into a Marshall Major 200w amp/ 4x12 bottom. It sounds great.... the horn is not simulated! It is a real treble driver firing thru a rotating horn - exactly like a Leslie. The bass is simulated, OR you can purchase the LowPro which has a real rotating scoop.

 

Originally posted by Jazzman:

I've been toying with the thought of owning a Motion Sound B-3 simulated sound system. I have yet to hear one of these beasts. Are they even close to the real thing? I remember carrying the real Hammond B-3 organ, peddles and all down two flights of stairs in a Frat house, with the Lesle speaker cabinet. I'm sweating just thinking about it. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif I didn't want to leave.........had to carry it back up the stairs.

 

I belive there is a simulated horn section and a separate bass module. Does anyone have one of these setups? What keyboard would work best with this package? What kind of price are we talking about in the market place?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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I had borrowed a friends Pro3t for a week. Now I`m sick because I don`t have one. Get the Pro3T and not the Pro 3. Also make sure it is serial # 6200 or higher, already has all the mods. Cost is somewhere around $600.00 for the Pro3T, and about the same for the bass amp. They also make a one piece unit with treble and bass for stereo. About $1100.00 Casey

Originally posted by Jazzman:

I've been toying with the thought of owning a Motion Sound B-3 simulated sound system. I have yet to hear one of these beasts. Are they even close to the real thing? I remember carrying the real Hammond B-3 organ, peddles and all down two flights of stairs in a Frat house, with the Lesle speaker cabinet. I'm sweating just thinking about it. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif I didn't want to leave.........had to carry it back up the stairs.

 

I belive there is a simulated horn section and a separate bass module. Does anyone have one of these setups? What keyboard would work best with this package? What kind of price are we talking about in the market place?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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Thanks for the information folks, interesting set-ups indeed. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

If any one has any more info to give out , fell free to respond, I'm taking notes.

 

Side Bar:

We used to mike a Lesle speaker cabinet with two mikes for the stereo effect. Can the Motion Sound horn section be set up the same way? Can it slow down and speed up like the original ones, or can you hear the simulation? We also used to run vocals through the Lesle for the off the wall effect too. Sounded different(many, many years ago). Does anyone do this today, live or in the studio?

 

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Point of clarification, the horn is not simulated. There is a horn that spins around just like a real Leslie speaker. If you only use the Pro3 horn unit, then the bass is simulated. But if you stack a Pro3 rotating horn on top of a Low Pro, then the bass comes out of a 12" speaker and is passed through a spinning rotor, again just like a real Leslie. I have a Motion Sound stack. It sounds great. While it might not sound EXACTLY like a Leslie you have a lot of versatility with regards to preamp overdrive (clean vs. dirty) and what they call contour (basically a filter on the horn to let more/less high-end pass). Plus you have a separate volume control on the Low Pro bass unit to dial in as much bass as you'd like.

 

It's not a simulator. It's a modern day replacement for the Leslie speaker. So certainly you can use mikes in the same way that you would with a real Leslie.

 

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Originally posted by Jazzman:

Thanks for the information folks, interesting set-ups indeed. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

If any one has any more info to give out , fell free to respond, I'm taking notes.

 

Side Bar:

We used to mike a Lesle speaker cabinet with two mikes for the stereo effect. Can the Motion Sound horn section be set up the same way? Can it slow down and speed up like the original ones, or can you hear the simulation? We also used to run vocals through the Lesle for the off the wall effect too. Sounded different(many, many years ago). Does anyone do this today, live or in the studio?

 

Thanks again all,

 

My fade out............

 

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Go to www.motion-sound.com, they have info on the best ways to mike their cabinets. Casey

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Perhaps some purists could kill me... but ...

 

 

Try using a LapTop computer, a TASCAM US428 Interface and run Native Instrument's B4 soft synth...

 

 

Ok, amplify it in Stereo with any pair of amps you choose or one which delivers Stereo... You'll be amazed. No rotating horn required... no back aches... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif

 

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I really like the Motion Sound KBR3D amp. It operates like a Pro3t but it comes complete with a stereo speaker connected to it for the low rotor sound. I run a Voce module through it and it sounds great. The best thing is you don't have to haul a different amp for a "straight sound" for things such as piano.

Although it probably isn't the same level of fidelity, running a Hughes and Kettner Tube Rotosphere through a Barbetta amp will provide an excellent Leslie simulation while allowing you to also play sounds like piano. And it also is very easy to transport

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