abekobo Posted July 18, 2001 Share Posted July 18, 2001 Hey all, Take a look at this: http://www.behringer.com/eng/products/audiosolutions/vx2000.htm It may not work, i tried eariler an their site was down. Okay, so another mic-pre... but look at the layout, look at the controls, look at the names of the controls especially the eq section...tuning, warmth, presence, breath, and absence? The same names as on the focusrite voicemaster, infact the whole product looks exactly the same as the voicemaster. so i emailed behringer thinking perhaps they had a license from focusrite to rebadge the product... From: Tom Hoskins [mailto:tom_hoskins@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:22 AM To: BEHRINGER Support Subject: Ultravoice Pro vx2000 hi there, i'm interested in the ultravoice pro channel strip which i assume is a new product. i can't help notice however that the control names and layout are exactly the same as the focusrite voicemaster. Is the ultravoice licensed from focusrite? Will there be much difference in price? and when can we expect to see it on the shelves? thanks -tom From: Plumb, Dustin To: 'Tom Hoskins' Cc: Russ, William Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: RE: Ultravoice Pro vx2000 You can't judge a book by its cover. Most compressors have the same controls, threshold ratio etc. and most sound somewhat different. I am sure that you will find the quality and craftsmanship (as well as sonic quality) quite satisfying. Unfortunately, I really don't have any information on when this unit will ship. We are not given lead times for shipments from Germany. Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is to continue to wait patiently. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Dustin Plumb BEHRINGER USA Customer Support 425-672-0816 X108 No mention of a license, in fact to me it sounds like the behringer is a seperate product from the voicemaster. so are they tempting another court case? anyone have any other info? cheers, -tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElGenius1 Posted July 18, 2001 Share Posted July 18, 2001 i smell a lawsuit brewing....... "Los niños escuchan el 'rap'...que les daña el cerebro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonafide Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 Originally posted by ElGenius1: i smell a lawsuit brewing....... I doubt it, I don't know what it is about music companies and trademarks but it is all too bogus. WD products recently filed and RECIEVED and trademark on the LIPSTICK tube pickup. The friggin' lipstick tube!!! the same pickup found in Silvertones, Jackson Surfcaster, Old chandlers, etc. Amazingly, the trademark reads that this pickup was first introduced in 1990. Cmon!! Is that a joke! How does that kinda shit hold up? I can think of a few more just as absurd. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf Posted July 19, 2001 Share Posted July 19, 2001 sorry if it´s old news, but what was the first suit? which companies have filed aganst behringer already? I looked at the voicemaster and the ultravoice. they are way to similar (in looks and function only) to be dismissed as unrelated products IMO. Ralf Rock and Roll Aint Noise Pollution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abekobo Posted July 20, 2001 Author Share Posted July 20, 2001 there was a lawsuit filed a couple of years ago by mackie against behringer, someone please correct me if i'm wrong cause i don't really know the details, but i think it was to do with similarities between the mixer designs of the two companies. I don't know what the outcome of that was... i do remember reading that behringer use the guts of a rode nt2 for the b2 condensor mic, but of course that's all above board as the mics are manufactured by rode. which is why i asked them if the ultravoice was a rebadged voicemaster. I guess the thing is that behringer attempt to provide a low(er) cost alternative to successful products, but how legit is it to do that to the point of direct imitation of a competitor. Perhaps they just want us to think that it's made by focusrite and badged by them... Does anyone know of anyother gear that bears a startling resemblance to behringer products? -tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Sound Posted July 20, 2001 Share Posted July 20, 2001 Got this joke from a friend once... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif At a Behringer product development meeting... First Behringer executive: "Hey guys! I've got an idea!" Second Behringer executive: "Oh yeah? Who's idea was it originally?" http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Behringer is kinda known for taking other company's products and showing them as their own. Example: Taking a Mackie Mixer circuit board and showing it as a new Behringer product at a trade show. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif Valky www.vsoundinc.com Valkyrie Sound: http://www.vsoundinc.com Now at TSUTAYA USA: http://www.tsutayausa.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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