Master Zap Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 (Edited: Duh, the title is supposed to be "Where is the info for "virgins""... *sigh*) Woodgrain posted in his reverb thread: My biggest pet peeve a few years ago was compression and how to use it. People always gave answers like use your ears, which is only helpful to a point. Answers like a compressor controls dynamics and this is a transient. 1. Attack 2. Decay. 3. Sustain 4. Release. What we want to do is control the transient or the body. Fast attack times control the transient slower controls the body. Now to a virgin engineer or first timer that is what info is needed to understand how a compressor works and when to use it. But riddles like just use your ears its an art is a riddle and a talk around. All that is needed is the idea to start-ballpark- then the rest is creativity and ears. BUT!!! There must be a start point. With reverb it it the same I understand country drums but have no experience with rock. Rwo different styles I know jazz and counrty and classical. And rock is new to me so there must be a style of trend of the way engineers of rock music are doing things and I wanted to know some input. After my second post I got my answer and it is wonderful insight. I appreciate all the info and just remeber to answer it with experience not just a riddle. Just think just because you know how to do something and explain it in terms that can be understood by only someone else who knows is not always helpful, remeber thats is why the question was asked - all the info in your head that can be explained should be even if it may seem trivial. Y'know the guys got a huge point. When I bought my firstest synthesizer - a Yamaha CS-5... the manual took great lenghts to explain the basis of subtractive synthesis, with diagrams, examples, and whatnot. (Then again, being a 10-knob-nothing-else-syhth, there wasn't really much more they could make a manual out of, it was still a rather thin one at that http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif ) But my Kurzweil K2500RS has a huge two-binder manual thing, but going into it, it assumes you know everything already. Nobody really sits down and explains the babysteps for you. They assume you already know the wonders of cutoff frequencies, envelopes, and MIDI (as a sidenote I helped a poor girl on another bulletin board to use her first ever MIDI device, a Yamaha SY35, in multitimbral mode from cubase. THAT *IS* ROCKET SCIENCE, since the SY35-s multi-timbral functionality is far-out to say the least). What happened to those manuals of lore where they REALLY explained things? Like in the old days when you bought a computer it came with the circuit diagram, and a book on programming BASIC, and when you turned it on it said "READY" and a blinking cursor? Immediately letting you take your first baby-step in programming... (and you could write your own games that was better than those on the accompanying casette tape!) And today it comes with 6 CD-ROM's of multimedia 3D action games. Who will ever WANT to program, let alone ever believe they can write something that comes even close to 1% of those 3D games? When the synth used to come with the diagram and have 10 knobs, now it has a gazillion of fucntions, and the manual assumes quite a bit of prior knoweledge. Thats cool for US GUYS who grew up with the 10-knob synths (or the "READY" blinking computers). But for those starting TODAY... ...how should they cope? /Z This message has been edited by Master Zap on 06-16-2001 at 12:16 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 They all will be Welcome to ask their questions right here, in MUSIC PLAYER.com ... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Right? GusTraX P.S. Yes, I do agree a 100% with you. It is almost a rule that Owners Manuals suck... and they suppose you are an expert in the basics. Músico, Productor, Ingeniero, Tecnólogo Senior Product Manager, América Latina y Caribe - PreSonus at Fender Musical Instruments Company Instagram: guslozada Facebook: Lozada - Música y Tecnología www.guslozada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobro Posted June 16, 2001 Share Posted June 16, 2001 AAAARRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! Should have listened to Tedster's warning..... What was I saying? Oh, yeah- softsynths! I think softsynths are taking the place of "learning synths", especially VST instruments, which are often virtual versions of "simple" old gear. But you really must have an external midi knob unit to do the "flight simulation". Virtual modular systems are great for learning, as well as sometimes sounding very good. -CB %5C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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