fantasticsound Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 I've started a post regarding Sonic Foundry ceasing support for CD Architect. Please respond if you know anything about this. You can find the post on GM's forum at: http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001075.html Neil It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Sound Forge 5.0 includes CD-burning. I don't have the latest rev, but it looks to me like they just bundled almost all their programs that were available as add-ons (FX, Acoustic Mirror, CD Architect) into the new version to encourage people to upgrade. CD Architect was indeed a great program, but assuming SF 5 has the same or better functionality, at least the program lives on in a different context. Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted June 8, 2001 Author Share Posted June 8, 2001 I hope you're right. Whomever John spoke to indicated this was NOT the case. He said there is other software from other mnfrs. and CD Architect had no market. I can't speak to the sales numbers, but apparently John has a small army of upset Sound Forge users on their BBS regarding this. Once again, hope you're correct. ------------------ Neil Reality: A few moments of lucidity surrounded by insanity. It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 8, 2001 Share Posted June 8, 2001 Sound Forge 5 only does track at once burning unlike CD-Architect (among many other things). This is the same basic CD burning that you get in ACID 2.0 and later, which is really unusable for most purposes. Also, you loose the ability to add non-destructive fades and total control over PQ codes. It's a real bummer that they ditched such a great program. I can understand not wanting to support every burner on the market, but I think that it's pretty shady that they already support just about ever burner on the market with Sound Forge 5 and ACID anyhow, so why not do it for CD Architect as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted June 9, 2001 Share Posted June 9, 2001 >>Sound Forge 5 only does track at once burning unlike CD-Architect (among many other things).<< Well that kills it for me right there. I do a lot of tunes that merge into each other or crossfade. >>Also, you lose the ability to add non-destructive fades and total control over PQ codes. It's a real bummer that they ditched such a great program.<< No kidding! This is the program I've been using for eons to create my CDs. No wonder people are upset. Has anyone worked with Emagic's WaveBurner? Ooops, no Windows version... Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 9, 2001 Share Posted June 9, 2001 Originally posted by Anderton: >>Sound Forge 5 only does track at once burning unlike CD-Architect (among many other things).<< Well that kills it for me right there. I do a lot of tunes that merge into each other or crossfade. Yeah, I think that Red Roaster and/or Samplitude 2496 might be the only other professional option available. Although, I've heard that Wavelab 3 is the "bomb" all around including great CD authoring. I never could quite get used to Sek'd interfaces, but this might have to change since I'm now looking for software that is more efficient that what I'm currently using. I'll trade a nice GUI for stability, less copy protection issues, less bloat-are, yada yada yada. All of the Samplitude users that I talk to love the program and say that it works and sounds better than everything else. -Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted June 10, 2001 Share Posted June 10, 2001 Actually they have a program called Sequoia that is great for mastering. The sound of the processing is particularly good. It would be considered in more of a pro league, kind of like Sonic Solutions, although the price point is far less. Samplitude is often not considered because the interface seems too complex. However, this means it takes longer to learn, not necessarily longer to use. Once you learn the icons and shortcuts, it's really quite an efficient program. Wavelab does in fact do CD-burning, I used to have lots of problems with it back in the days of 2.0 but it seems to work much better now. Or maybe it's just because my computer is better! Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted June 10, 2001 Author Share Posted June 10, 2001 By the way, I've had a chance to play with Steinberg's Clean! software. It seems to be a combination of de-noiser and such. Much better than Restoration plug-in, in that capacity. Y You can do CD authoring and burning, although John said he's not convinced it does everything CD Architect did for Sound Forge. Clean! is a stand alone program. I guess it's designed to clean up LP's or taped being recorded to the computer to burn CD's. They mention in FAQ that to record an album/tape side and slice it with start/stop ID's, you need to use Wavelab Lite to record. Then mark sections and drag them to the Wavelab lite desktop and resave to import the individual tracks to Clean! I'm not sure why they included a record mode on Clean if they were not going to allow you to create Start/Stop ID's. Strange. We already had wondered why they wouldn't support new CD burners for the old software, given that they have to support them with the new software. Who knows? It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uh Clem Posted June 10, 2001 Share Posted June 10, 2001 Nope, WaveLab 3.0 is the best audio software I have (I have SF 5.0, Samplitude 2496, Vegas Pro, SonarXL, a demo of CubaseVST) - the interface is perfect - doesn't remind me of Steinberg at all. And it is rock solid. I think there is even a demo version - try it - it makes SF seem like stone knives - very few modal dialog boxes - adjust effects in real time - start stop playback anywhere even while working with effects - nice effects rack you can save - super flexible CD burning - wav file load quickly - edits, even on large file are instantaneous. A must have for PC Audio dudes and dudettes. I wish they would just turn it into a multi-track program and keep the interface the same. I never used 2.0. Then I read (in EQ) about 3.0 and upgraded and have loved it ever since. FYI, it is the foundation (along with Windows NT) for the high-end mastering Audio Cube Workstation. Steve Powell - Bull Moon Digital www.bullmoondigital.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted June 10, 2001 Share Posted June 10, 2001 Yes, the SF 5 CD burning is pretty lame... about the only thing it's good for is sending a client home with a reference CD so they can listen to the mixes and decide if they want any additional changes made. I actually keep BOTH the new and older versions of Sound Forge on my computer. Now that all my recorders are 20 and 24 bit, I needed the ability to edit and process 24 bit files, which the 4.X versions didn't support. I use Vegas Audio 2.0 a lot too, and you couldn't use the older versions of SF with it to edit 24 bit files. So 5.0 is certainly worth it to me (heck, it only cost me a measly $99) if for nothing else than the higher bit rate support. And there are some other nice improvements besides the improved bit rate. After I finish doing everything in 5.0 (including the final step of dithering down to 16 bit) I load the whole sheebang into the older version of SF, open CD Architect and burn the CD's, print out the PQ sheets, etc. It's a kludge, but it works. Minor hassle, that's all. It still stinks that Sonic Foundry decided to stop support for such a cool program. BTW Craig, do you have a URL for more info on Sequoia? Thanks! Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted June 10, 2001 Share Posted June 10, 2001 Never mind Craig - I re-read your post and saw that it's a SEK'D product, and they've got info on it on their website (http://www.ucik.com/sekd_bio/). Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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