Philip OKeefe Posted May 25, 2001 Share Posted May 25, 2001 This is somewhat related to my PC DAW thread, but different enough that I think it deserves its own thread. Which OS are you running and what are the advantages / disadvantages of each? I am particularly interested in the differences between Win 98 SE / Win ME and Win 2000. I've been considering switching over to Win 2000, but it seems like many programs don't support it... and hardware driver support seems to be an issue too. Eludicate me, oh wise forum members! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViLo Posted May 25, 2001 Share Posted May 25, 2001 I tried to install Windows ME, this afternoon and it crahsed my computer. [Compaq Presario PentiumIII] I have to restore avrething. ViLo ------------------ HE'S COMING, MAKE MUSIC, BE HAPPY! Jesus Is Coming, Make Music, Get Ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted May 26, 2001 Author Share Posted May 26, 2001 ViLo, I have a Compaq Presario PIII 933 MHz w/ 384 MB RAM, and it CAME with win ME installed. All of my other 'puters have win 98 SE. I have heard that win ME stinks for audio apps, and I can't see anything about Logic being supported on Win 2000. I'd like to switch to win 2000 because many people have told me it's much more powerful and reliable, but it seems like very little of the hardware and software I use is supported on it. I'm debating wiping my C drive on the PIII / 933 and installing Win 98 SE instead. I really don't see any benefits with Win ME for audio - only problems. Others, please feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect and I welcome any suggestions.... Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notape_dup1 Posted May 26, 2001 Share Posted May 26, 2001 Youre right Phil, win ME sucks ass! I tried ME and I couldn't get anything to work right. I am running 98 SE now and everthing is running fine. So, it would probably be beneficial to wipe your C drive and put 98 SE on it. Idealy, I would like to run win NT because its alot more stable than 98 or ME, IMO. Over all, 98 SE seems to be the most freinly OS to run audio apps on as it supports just about every peice of hardware and software out on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted May 26, 2001 Share Posted May 26, 2001 Phil, contact jgeib@sgrecording.com . He's just registered here as TheMusic (might be a z instead of an s). He was previously using a removable drive system because some programs won't work with Win2000. It utilizes $20 plastic drive holders (different colors!) that contain standard HD's. Most programs work better with Win2000, he's said. He used the internal drive for raw files, and had a different OS (Win2000, Win98se) on two removable drives, with the associated recording software. The only reason he isn't doing this right now is his new box. Has a Pentium 4 and the drive bays are different. I'm not sure when he plans to fix this, SO ASK HIM! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I use Win98se, and it's a minitower w/2 1/2 years left on the warranty, so, no go on the removable drive bay. Neil It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2001 Share Posted May 26, 2001 Phil - I've been very pleased with the stability of WIndows 2000 Pro. The main thing that needs to be done after a fresh install (and download updates from Microsoft) is to get into the add/remove thingy and remove ALL networking components. As soon as I did this my system started to fly. Of course, if you have a LAN or need to have a modem on the system, this won't help you much. My system is a dual celeron setup that I run at 500 to 600 MHz (I have a program that watches the CPU temperature and lowers the clock if it gets hotter than the limits I set, then raises the clock again once things cool down.) The MoBo is an ABIT BP6 (mine had design problems that I had to fix myself; I can't recommend it to anyone else for this reason - ABIT support sucks the proverbial donkey testes). Besides, I've heard it is no longer in production. It has 256M RAM and a single 16 GB Maxtor drive. I haven't found too many programs that don't work on it, though not everything I run is coded for 2 processor systems. It runs rings around Win 9x, and is *much* more stable than Win NT (despite all the hype about NTs robustness, I've had Win NT die and take my data with it more than once for stupid reasons, like installing a new mouse driver). I use Cakewalk 9, ACID, Cooledit and Soundforge, with an assortment of DX and VST (using a DX wrapper) plugins. Wavelab seems to not work well, it runs OK for a while then dies without warning. Help this is helpful to you. - Philbo Tangent www.mp3.com/tangent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted May 26, 2001 Author Share Posted May 26, 2001 Philbo - Thanks for the info on Win 2K Pro. Unfortunately, my main sequencer is Logic Platinum 4.7, Emagic (after keeping me on hold trying to get into tech support for 40 minutes) confirmed that 4.7 is NOT supported on that OS. They said 5.0 WILL be (target shipping date: September) but not the current version. Drats! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif It's good to know that Sound Forge will work on 2K, but I worry about my plug ins. It's always more $$, (ya know?) but I'd GLADLY pay it and have it done with if it meant a more efficient and stable system. Fantasticsound, thanks for the tip on the drive swapping and the contact to look into it - I'll definitely look into this! I used to run dual boot (because when I was running an early version of SAW it needed WIN 3.1) but that was problematic, to say the least. At least with drive swaps you're dealing with a completely seperate OS per drive. Notape, I think the WIn 98 SE is probably my best option for right now - at least until Logic 5.0 ships. Thanks for the info. Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demtation Posted May 26, 2001 Share Posted May 26, 2001 This is not necessarily an endorsement or recommendation, but I just wanted to convey that after some moderate time spent configuring WinME (following a fresh install) I now have (so far) a totally stable system. There were many little tweaks that helped, but the one step that really made the difference was running MSCONFIG and disabling all startup items except EXPLORER and SYSTRAY, and in my case the Echo driver. Turning off all those "helpful" features like System Restore made my system fly. Incidentally, it's a PIII 1ghz, running primarily Sonar, SoundForge 5, and Acid 2.0. In my situation, this PC *is* networked and doesn't seem to influence performance at this point. Hmmm, computers are fickle things, eh? I would love to jump to Win2k, but for now I'm satisfied. Just another $.02 of encouragement if you're stuck with WindozeME for some reason. demtation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 27, 2001 Share Posted May 27, 2001 Windows Me is oodles more stable than Win 98 SE. Ive only used it on home-brew computers, but it runs all of my audio apps rock solid! If you have to choose between 98SE and Me go with Me, but the ultimate choice is to Windows 2000 or Win XP once its released. I went back to 98 SE just because I kept hearing so much negative flack about it, and it felt so much less stable than Windows Me. Windows 2000 buries the entire Win 9x core OSs in stablity when configured with good hardware and software. Another big bonus with Win Me and Win 2k is they both have great general driver support built-in. BTW, every direct-X plug-in that Ive ever used works fine in Win 2k. -Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Posted May 27, 2001 Share Posted May 27, 2001 I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm still running Win95... It has the least amount of bloat of all the Windows OSs, and it keeps getting faster and faster each time I update my hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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