Anderton Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Curve Dominant just sent me some of his music on a "cassette," which seems to be some sort of miniature, high-density analog storage device. Is this a prototype of some new technology? It seems to have that "analog" sound, and apparently doesn't need any kind of conversion -- during recording, it simply stores the signal present at its input! According to Eric, these "cassettes" are very inexpensive -- much cheaper than Minidiscs. Also, apparently even the cheapest players don't skip or need memory storage, which brings the price down. The only downside is that there's no random access, although most units have counters to indicate the cassette's position. This seems perfect for all those people who love analog sound, but find reel-to-reel too inconvenient, and of course, you can't go jogging with a turntable around your neck! What will they think of next? Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat0124 Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 SOunds like a DCC. Down like a dollar comin up against a yen, doin pretty good for the shape I'm in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 To the one called "AN-DER-TON"... Affirmative...studying ancient technology of Earth people is fascinating. It was rumored that these devices called "cassettes" used a rather fragile substance called 1/8" "tape" which was prone to stretching and breakage. Actually, when stretched...the "tape" produced much more interesting music than what Earthlings normally record. Also, due to the fragile nature of such narrow tape...it ran at a much slower speed increasing the background noise of said "musical product". Someone once postulated that a superior product would use wider tape at a faster speed in a larger cassette...but this failed to become popular with Earthlings. Hail to the alliance... Zoltran of Xatox "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted May 17, 2001 Author Share Posted May 17, 2001 >>It was rumored that these devices called "cassettes" used a rather fragile substance called 1/8" "tape" << Zoltran, I believe you are mistaken. According to the book "Barbarism in the 20th Century, Volume XLVII: Tools of Earth People" by Zywtngp Zirple, "tape" is something that has adhesive on one side and is used to stick objects together. Apparently it was invented in Scotland, as it is often called "Scotch Tape." The "cassettes" could not use such "tape," as it would stick to the container, and not move. Apparently motion is an essential part of sound reproduction when using "cassettes." Another book, entitled "Obsolete and Stupid Technologies of Earth People" by T785 8457TMG, mentions that humans at one point had two main technologies for reproduction of sound. One method dragged a small rock through a ditch cut in a round plastic object, and was called the "LP." The other glued rust to the back of plastic, and was dragged past a magnet! Perhaps this is the basis of the "cassette," although how anyone could get sound reproduction from either rocks/plastic or rust/plastic is beyond me...perhaps this is a satirical book. Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 A thousand thanks for clearing up that matter. Perhaps some further research will be necessary. As a matter of fact, perhaps what is referred to as a "field trip" would be in order. How does one reach the human dwelling place known as "Roswell" (if it in fact still exists)? Rocks dragged through polymer discs indeed... -Zoltran of Xatox "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Olsson. Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Anone remembering the Elcassette from the second half of the 70's? A compact-cassette on steroids with 1/4" tape. Totally awesome stuff that never got the attention it deserved. It died prematurely. Then came Tandberg, Harman-Kardon & Nakamichi and showed us how good a compact cassette actually could sound (with a little help from Ray Dolby). I never use cassettes today, but have many many boxes of them in the attic... along with a lot of 1/4" reel-to-reel stuff (Compilation tapes with the hits of the day). /Mats http://www.lexam.net/peter/carnut/man.gif What do we want? Procrastination! When do we want it? Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 "Zoltran from Xatox" said... >>>Someone once postulated that a superior product would use wider tape at a faster speed in a larger cassette...but this failed to become popular with Earthlings. Yep...I believe that's what ol' Zoltran was referring to...the Elcaset... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif...always torqued me that it didn't catch on. How's that go? "Live long and perspire"? "Live wrong and prosper"? "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stranger Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 dr destructo makes very good use of these ancient technologies. Yet, he is unaware of a superior device known as the "elcasette"??? Must track down info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curve Dominant Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Zoltran and An Der Ton: I found those on my trip back to the 20th century Earth planet in my X-1Y7 Space Modulator (the one that Dan South-Saturn Delta gave me for Frwacxmas). I found these "cassettes" quaint. The sound is nice, somewhat warmer than our current media. It does have a tendency to degradation, which is too bad. My pet robot puppy ate one of them. That didn't sound good at all. She squealed unpleasently as I tried to extract the rather long ribbon-like response surface from her mouth. Hopefully, An Der Ton, you shouldn't experience similiar complications with the Earthling torso-wrap insulator. Just be sure to wash it in cold water. Çürvè DØm!ñånt Eric Vincent (ASCAP) www.curvedominant.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat0124 Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Crown me DUH-meister of the week! Down like a dollar comin up against a yen, doin pretty good for the shape I'm in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 I actually had to use one of those "cassette" things on a remote gig 2 weeks ago! I had to pull a CD recorder out of my rack to make room for a "cassette" thing. The client needed a copy of the recording (on DAT) made to "cassette" for transcription purposes. I had to buy blank "cassettes" at the store. I was shocked that they were available...right next to CD-Rs! WOW! Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com ...all hail ReGurgiTron! Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphajerk Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 i sitll use cassettes for rough mixes that i dont feel like SRCing. they dont sound nearly as good and im afraid the "warmth" feature fucks up things more than it helps things... and oh yes, there IS a conversion, from electrical energy to the rearrangement of particles, and then it reads those arrangements of particles and converts it back into energy. vinyl is the ONLY mechanical representation of sound that i know of... a tape deck MUST have power to hear the rearrangement of particles [drag the tape across the head without power and you will hear nothing... a record player only requires you spin the thing by hand and you can hear the actual needle creating the energy and emitting sound. alphajerk FATcompilation "if god is truly just, i tremble for the fate of my country" -thomas jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 I have one of these high-density storage device players, which came standard in my 1990 internal combustion transportation vehicle. I believe that both the vehicle and the player are under the influence of Zoltar, since they both seem to have unpredictable qualities. Ken of Earth Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 mmmmmmh ! Cassettes... (H. Simpson) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Sounds like a new technology. I think I saw the draw of one in a newspaper last summer. Are those "Mini Disks" things that new thigs which spins at 45 rpm? They use that new mechanical sound reproduction system. Marvelous... last night my dog was listening to it very closely to the horn, I took a picture of it... a friend of mine, a publicist, liked it a lot... GusTraX Músico, Productor, Ingeniero, Tecnólogo Senior Product Manager, América Latina y Caribe - PreSonus at Fender Musical Instruments Company Instagram: guslozada Facebook: Lozada - Música y Tecnología www.guslozada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Strange man make sound from box. Me hit tree on ground with stick. Gods come from sky in water. Strange man get wet. No more sound from box. Me no like when speaker cone get drenched. Me like funky! Bill Murphy www.murphonics.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 She squealed unpleasently as I tried to extract the rather long ribbon-like response surface from her mouth. ---------------------------------------------------- At least she didn't swallow... Then you would have been extracting it from her butt! Kris My Band: http://www.fullblackout.com UPDATED!!! Fairly regularly these days... http://www.logcabinmusic.com updated 11/9/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_powellpalmercay.com Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 I am a simple cave man. I was recording my band with my Portastudio, when I fell throught the ice and was frozen. Centuries later I was thawed out and entered your world. Your DATs and CDR's frighten and confuse me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted May 17, 2001 Author Share Posted May 17, 2001 Here's a strange passage from the digiscreen document "Terrans Say the Funniest Things" (channel 1,985,445,847 on the Zoltran viewsystem): "Terrans apparently have great difficulty designing tape devices properly. A music reproduction device called the cassette was never designed for reproducing music, but for recording utterings of executives so that secretaries could transcribe these at a later date, while the executive was having an affair or playing an earth game called "golf," which consisted of wearing very funny clothes and hitting balls into holes with strange clubs. (We do not yet understand why they didn't just pick up the ball and drop it in the hole. Apparently there may have been a taboo against touching these balls; perhaps they were some type of sexual organ, as literature of the time associates the word "balls" with sexuality.) "The Terrans then made a second attempt at a music reproduction system called DAT. This was intended for ordinary terrans, however it was used only by a race of people called 'professional musicians.' These apparently were of a very low caste and not considered important members of society. "In the early 21st century, a Terran scientist named DJ Russell Reign found that sound convertered into numbers, then converted back into sound, triggered insanity and psychotic episodes after repeated exposure. This was only discovered when a new conversion system that cut sound into 96,000 pieces per second came into being, as lower conversion rates did not have the same effect on the brain. "Unfortunately for Terrans, this was discovered too late, as most of the earth had gone insane from listening to this tainted sound. Only a few members of a nation called "DJ" survived, because they listened to sound that resulted from dragging a rock through a plastic disc." Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Those analog storage devices sound like the pinacle a high technology. Oh, BTW did you hear: The internet is coming to computers!!! I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curve Dominant Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 I'm going to blow up the Earth. Marvin Eric Vincent (ASCAP) www.curvedominant.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_powellpalmercay.com Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 The Oith?!!! Heavens ta Murgatroyd!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri T. Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 One of our scientists discovered something similar to these cassettes. It was a colored plastic box with a piece of the "rusty tape" inside, it was larger tape than the "cassette" had within. This was found lodged in the control panel of a terran surface vehicle of the late Paisley era. None of our scientists or engineers has been able to get it to function however. They ended up throwing the device out the viewport of thier Vesta Cruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Anybody remember those funky data cassettes for the Coleco Adam computer? They looked like cassettes, they smelled like cassettes, but the spindle holes were slightly off so you had to buy the special data cassettes for the Adam instead of being able to use regular cassettes. Still, the coolest use for cassettes EVER is with the Fisher Price PXL 2000 video camera: You could get 10 minutes of funky pixellated black and white video and awful audio quality on a 90 minute chrome cassette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curve Dominant Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 One of the Earthlings has been frightened by our presence, and is alerting the Intergalactic Immigration pods. His name is <>. GET HIM!!! Çürvè DØm!ñånt Eric Vincent (ASCAP) www.curvedominant.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 I just contacted the FBI. I think this qualifies as an X-file. Hopefully they can get to it before Scully has her baby. BTW, I'm married to an alien, so I'm sympathetic to your cause. Or is a pathetic? I dunno. Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curve Dominant Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 KILL THE EARTHLING!!! Çürvè DØm!ñånt Eric Vincent (ASCAP) www.curvedominant.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri T. Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Originally posted by f7sound@gte.net: I just contacted the FBI. I think this qualifies as an X-file. Hopefully they can get to it before Scully has her baby. Our researchers beleive this Scully charachter may have had something to do with the manufacure of these rusty tape sound devices. We have seen a unit with the name emblazoned upon it. (enable compressed trans-flange phaser distortion unit for more communications) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri T. Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Originally posted by f7sound@gte.net: I just contacted the FBI. I think this qualifies as an X-file. Hopefully they can get to it before Scully has her baby. Our researchers beleive this Scully character may have had something to do with the manufacture of these rusty tape sound devices. We have seen a unit with the name emblazoned upon it. (enable compressed trans-flange phaser distortion unit for more communications) This message has been edited by Yuri T. on 05-17-2001 at 03:32 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 Posted by kent powell: I am a simple cave man. I was recording my band with my Portastudio, when I fell throught the ice and was frozen. Centuries later I was thawed out and entered your world. Your DATs and CDR's frighten and confuse me! ========================================== Welcome back "UNFROZEN CAVEMAN ENGINEER"!!! So Many Drummers. So Little Time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted May 17, 2001 Share Posted May 17, 2001 My first experience with that rusty mess was long ago when I was forced into using a large metallic device with the name "Scully" inscribed upon it. I was given a slender, yet sharp silver object and ordered to cut into that rusty plastic thus severing it in two. Then I was forced at gun point to fuse together the very cut I had made using some sort of blue sticky paper. There must be some kind of conspiracy going on. Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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