MadFor3D Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 Maybe I'm missing something. Seems like there should be a forum called "Original Recordings For Critique" something of that nature. I'm a recording hobbyist and I have some of my songs on Mp3.com. I've always wished though, that there was a forum where I could post (works in progress) and get feedback from people with more experience than myself. Is there a forum like this somewhere? Thanks, Madrone http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/24/madrone_candea.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 I think this is a great idea! I made a suggestion for an arranging forum, but a forum of works-in-progress could cover much of the same ground. This message has been edited by popmusic on 05-01-2001 at 10:20 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphajerk Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 have you tried the BB's at mp3.com? alphajerk FATcompilation "if god is truly just, i tremble for the fate of my country" -thomas jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 >>I've always wished though, that there was a forum where I could post (works in progress) and get feedback from people with more experience than myself.<< Hey -- how could you miss the 800 pound gorilla of this forum, "Is Your Music any Good? Find Out Here!" This serves the exact purpose you describe -- people provide links to their tunes, and ask for critiques. Despite my @#$% 28.8kbps line, I still manage to download some tunes from time to time, and throw in my 2 cents worth... Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 Originally posted by Anderton: Hey -- how could you miss the 800 pound gorilla of this forum, "Is Your Music any Good? Find Out Here!" Actually, I was going to mention that thread on my original post (except I hit the "Back" button on my browser and I lost what I had typed -- dang IE browser http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif )... I've tried reading most of that thread, but it's gotten so unwieldy that I forget who they're referencing when there's a comment relating to something four pages ago. A forum with that topic would be nice, just so that the link to someone's music and everyone else's opinion can all be viewed in one thread. If the "Is Your Music Any Good" thread is an indication, I have a feeling a forum featuring nothing but music links and critiques would be pretty popular. Just my 0.02... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 Yeah, I agree with popmusic, I've always thought that would be a great idea for a forum, too. It would be nice also for songwriters and arrangers who could share works in progress and get ideas from other people. Hey, maybe it would even result in some online collaborations! --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stranger Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 I think it may be a good idea. The thread was serving the purpose quite well, but has gotten hard to manage. Lee may be on to something, too. If certain artists are drawn to each others work, it could result in colaboration. It might be a good idea to keep the forum limited to one thread per user name. Like a "Lee Flier" thread. This would be where people know exactly where to listen to her stuff and comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippie Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 I'm not so sure about the idea. Ever notice some of the damn stupid advice you get from people about your recordings? I say go with what your gut tells you and to hell with the rest! All good artists, in their time, were told all sorts of things like, "no one does it that way", or "you can't put a sitar in rock music"... Just throw it out there, if it gets beat up, you'll probably know why. That's my story and I'm stickin' with it, -Hippie In two days, it won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 LOL well I agree in principle, Hippie. I don't think the purpose of soliciting criticism is necessarily so people can say "This sucks!" But people have different reasons for asking for feedback or asking forum members to listen to their stuff. Examples: "I'm in the middle of arranging this song and I'm stuck. Do you guys think this bridge works? What do you think would really make this turnaround jump out?" "I need some lyrical ideas for the third verse. Should I just repeat the first verse lyrics, or has anybody got a better idea?" "I very happy with this song, but I'm a beginner at recording and I'm not sure if I recorded everything right. What could make my production quality better? Is there too much reverb?" I'm sure there are other things along these lines, but you get the idea. We might all be basically happy with our stuff, but we can all use ideas to help us make our stuff even better - especially those who typically work alone on DAW's and such. Bouncing stuff off other people is always good! Then too, there ARE some people who are shooting for some commercial success. If they get a lot of positive feedback they would know they're going in the right direction. But if everybody in the forum says, "Dude, you're never going to sell avant-garde jazz to a teen market", well... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFor3D Posted May 1, 2001 Author Share Posted May 1, 2001 I am trying to teach myself 3D animation. I've used a web forum to get critiques on my 3D work for some time. Granted, a lot of comments can be lame. Its the ones that arent that make it worth it. The insight or different perspective from someone with more experience that can often inspire and motivate. There are a lot of things both in song writing and recording that I'd learn from by reading peoples comments on other peoples works as well. I guess, the main problem with me now is I'm always sharing my music with people who aren't so musically inclined. They tend to have a "Wow, that's great" attitude. Perhaps that's because I'm trying to do it all on my own. If I had a band I guess I'd be hearing "Yo, that's crap" a lot more. Hey, we all want to become better musicians and recording artists don't we? Peace, Madrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricknbokker Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 YES YES YES!!! Fine idea. Awesome idea. YES!!!! Better start shooting these 4-tracs to digital, huh. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted May 1, 2001 Share Posted May 1, 2001 I vote to stick with the 800 pound gorilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFor3D Posted May 2, 2001 Author Share Posted May 2, 2001 I guess its a lot to ask someone to download a whole MP3 song of just a "work in progress". With a high speed connection listening to an MP3 in hi-fi is as easy as one click. It's taken more than 10 days for my new song to come up on MP3.com. I guess its just a technical thing I need to learn how to do on my site. Such that putting the link to an MP3 file here would be as easy as one click. What does it involve? Some CGI stuff? -Madrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFor3D Posted May 2, 2001 Author Share Posted May 2, 2001 Oops, A question for another forum/thread. Sorry. -M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 I think it's a great idea to spin that off as its own forum. My suggestion would be to make it a songwriter's / collaboration / critique forum. It would give everyone a place to showcase their stuff, seek collaboration AND seek opinions on the material. Additionally, it would provide a location for the discussion of songwriting techniques and methodology, which is one forum area where musicplayer currently doesn't have much coverage. Craig: I emailed Kudyba a while back regarding a similar proposal, and the offer to moderate / co-moderate such a forum is still open if you are interested. Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratman_dup1 Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 Sounds cool to me, I quit checking out the gorilla a while ago because it just got to be too much of a pain in the a#@ to keep up with. And I've always been into the collaboration thing, sounds like great fun to me http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 Craigster wrote... >>>Hey -- how could you miss the 800 pound gorilla of this forum, "Is Your Music any Good? Find Out Here!" This serves the exact purpose you describe -- people provide links to their tunes, and ask for critiques. Despite my @#$% 28.8kbps line, I still manage to download some tunes from time to time, and throw in my 2 cents worth... Craig, sounds like we're all gonna have to have our own "contest" and getcha a cable modem subscription for yer birthday or something... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFor3D Posted May 2, 2001 Author Share Posted May 2, 2001 I like popmusic's idea. I'm having some difficulty following one thread with everyones music and critiques all cramed in there. A single thread for each "composer" could develop over time. I would offer my opinions on other peoples work so long as they understand I'm just a novice. -madrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 >>Craig, sounds like we're all gonna have to have our own "contest" and getcha a cable modem subscription for yer birthday or something... << The problem is I live out in the country -- to far away for DSL, cable modem hasn't reached my area yet, and satellite does fast downloads, but I also need really fast uploads. So I appreciate the thought, but believe me, as soon as there's a technological solution that doesn't cost $1K a month (e.g., T1 type stuff) I'll be on it!! Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 Two other things: * We are working on putting a songwriting forum together. Stay tuned. * In defense of the Gorilla vs. having threads for each composer, with individual threads the message board would be even more unwieldy. Suppose you're a Lee Flier fan and you want to check out her music. Fine. Then Lee doesn't do any music for a few weeks. Her thread drops into page 10 of 14. How do you know where to find it? Not that you can find it in the Gorilla, but at least there's no question as to what's current. In other words, I think we sort of have a choice between two options that are really not that great, but the current is -- believe it or not -- more manageable on some level. But I'm going to start thinking about some solution that will work. And of course, y'all are welcome to come up with your own suggestions, we'll figure this out somehow. Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricknbokker Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 THANXTHANXTHANXTHANXTHANXamillionthanx!!!! Just what I wanted to hear!! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stranger Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 * In defense of the Gorilla vs. having threads for each composer, with individual threads the message board would be even more unwieldy. Suppose you're a Lee Flier fan and you want to check out her music. Fine. Then Lee doesn't do any music for a few weeks. Her thread drops into page 10 of 14. How do you know where to find it? The search function should be able to zero right in on a thread called "Lee Flier". http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted May 2, 2001 Share Posted May 2, 2001 Yippee! That would be too cool! And yeah I agree with dr. d, I think it's no big deal about dropping down to the last page. The search function can find anybody, and it will keep everybody motivated to keep writing current stuff! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted May 3, 2001 Share Posted May 3, 2001 Doesn't the search function work on the gorilla? I much prefer having everything in one place. Suppose someone named Charles Smith posts a composition, but I miss it the first time. How am I going to know, in the future, to search for someone that I've never heard of? I'd rather browse the gorilla sequentially from the date that I last checked it. This message has been edited by dansouth@yahoo.com on 05-02-2001 at 05:05 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7sound - Posted May 3, 2001 Share Posted May 3, 2001 I like the gorilla too. Just that we may have to start a new thread of it every so often so that it doesn't get too insane. Still - whatever form it takes, the fact that we are listening to other artists' music is VERY cool! Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.f7sound.com Michael Oster F7 Sound and Vision http://www.F7sound.com http://www.regurgitron.com http://www.LaptopNoise.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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