ElectroLand Connection: Trip hop/Jungle/and Beyond

[hiraga]

Sure CD.. I'm no copyright freak (no Schnapster freak either..)

 

Hey, I know my homework (I'm *also* a sales weasel.. there you have it. I sell gear..).. I think I put my question wrongly. Once more; "I know the E-Tribe can do multiple things, like sampling. But how good is it if you only want to use it a s a sequencer?" Aha!!

 

My current sampling/sequencing rig:

 

Roland S-330 & S-550 (I luv these 12 bitters.. even though I have acces to Akai S6000 and a bunch of EMUs..)

Roland MC-505 Sequencer/Groovebox

Akai MPC3000

 

YEAH!! I'll go get that record!

 

Wait with the Laika.. There's two..

[JES]

Hi Folks,

 

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I will dutifully go off and check them out.

 

Submersible: I know what you mean about the derivative thing, and I totally agree about Morcheeba's latest stuff. Not so good. The early stuff, OTOH, is really nice.

 

Curve: thanks for the welcome -- I am a newbie in terms of making the music. I'd love to hear more about how people here actually work in creating loop based music. I have messed around with Acid (obligatory har har) but as far as a creative process, I'm not even sure where to start. I mean, I've been writing rock stuff with no problem -- I get that. I guess I'm just at that point where I have the tools for loop-based stuff but no sense of how to use them to get where I want. Where do people start? Do you build a tune around a single sample you like, a sound or a loop? Do you think at all in terms of melody at the beginning or bring it in later?

 

I realize that everyone's got a different working style -- I guess since I have *none* for this type of music it would just help to hear how other people do it. If there are good interviews with big names in the field on this sort of stuff, let me know where to go look.

 

Thanks again. Off to listen.

 

JES

[Curve Dominant]

Yo whazzup folks-

 

Hiraga,

 

Sorry I mis-understood your question. The answer is "yes," you can use the E-TribeS as a sequencer, but for all the cool things it does, sequencing is not its main bag. I sometimes use an Alesis SR16 to sequence, and trigger the E-Tribe from that, because of certain limitations in the E-Tribe's sequencing capabilities. The unit's over-all capabilities are designed in such a way to maximize a very basic sequencing/programming capability that would be sufficient for mainly 4-on-the-floor dance grooves. So if you isolate it as a sequencer, it's not that strong. The main strength of the E-TribeS is that it gives you the ability to sample anything from a single drum hit, to a complete 4 measure loop, to any kind of sound at all, and then manipulate those samples into completely original sounds that are virtually unrecognizable from the original sounds or loops. Therefore, it would make much more sense to use the E-TribeS as a sound module, and trigger it from another sequencer, than to use it as a sequencer. Dig?

 

JES,

 

I want to answer your question, too, but I have to go right now, so I'll get back to ya later on tonight.

 

curvedominant

 

This message has been edited by Curve Dominant on 04-14-2001 at 06:03 PM

[hiraga]

The E-Tribe..

 

Well, I don't use seqs as people mostly do.. I don't need it to run all my samplers and sounds, just bits'n'pieces, like a single drum or a pad or sumthin'.. I then print that, and layer some more. I dig your explanation, thanx! How's about the other Korgs? I'm asking, 'cause I can have all of them (or one) for almost nothing.. sooo..

 

Any other funky hardware seqs you can recommend? (I don't use computarz.. I mostly use tape machines to speed up or down tracks, reverse them etc.. I often double the tempo on the seq, and then dump it to 30IPS, and play it back at 15IPS.. or the other way around)

[Curve Dominant]

JES posted:

>>I am a newbie in terms of making the music. I'd love to hear more about how people here actually work in creating loop based music.<<

 

Well, I'm a songwriter. I write a lyric, and then build the grooves and sounds around the cadence of the hook. A lyric has an inherent phrase-based rhythm, which will imply a certain tempo and syncopation. So I will look for places where the lyric hook has rhythmic reference points, and build the basic rhythm around that phrasing. The rest falls into that groove: the key-centre at which that lyric is effectively sung will determine what bassline key-centre the music will be composed on. The bassline should lock in tightly with the beat, and the added chord progression (played on guitar, keys, or whatever) will enhance the harmonic possibilities inherent in the bassline. You see: you are "building" your composition, always referring back to the lyric phrasing as a kind of vanishing point. This takes practice - you are not going to master it by the end of the week, so be patient, and work hard at it. You will have to compose 100 songs to get 10 great ones, so get to work.

 

curvedominant

[Sofine]

Hey,

 

Just back from 3 days surfing in the West of Ireland (Mayo). Wow. I didn't realise just how stressed out and run down I was. Makes a big difference to your drive in the studio - having the old energy levels restored again.

 

Curve, I really like the sound of the Korg Electribe S. How much do they go for in USA new / second hand? They're in the region of IEP700 to IEP800 in Dublin (USD780 to USD890). I may be in NYC soon and I could pick one up. I've been to Sam Ash off broadway and 50th (ish - near Times Square) - is this a value place to buy some gear? You should check out the crazy prices for music equipment in Ireland. It sucks. In fact most of the gear I have has been bought on web auctions - yahoo.co.uk

 

I have checked out zzounds and other similar US online music gear stores, but most won't ship to Ireland. It sucks more.

 

Craig,

 

I hope I didn't sound dissful in my last post. It's just that I have heard some tracks on mp3.com and peoplesound.com - mainly of a dance oriented nature - and I have heard samples that I recognise from Acid sample CDs in some of these songs. They were used untouched and unedited. It is this that I find a bit weird - it's a bit like musical clip art to me. It's just not the same as sampling a groove from an old record, or chopping up someones vocal line or lifting a bassline from a old disco tune. I completely understand what you mean concerning deadlines though, which is probably why I haven't finished a bloody tune yet!

 

On the other hand, having someone sample my stuff would certainly be exciting and interesting and I hope one day that it happens.

 

Si http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Sofine]

Craig,

 

Whoops, I've just seen the other thread you started. I'll keep that discussion there from now on.

[Jose Cobelas]

Just coming back of Easter holidays...well actually just lounging by the pool in my own garden, but a couple of friends from Barcelona came to spend the holidays with us, weather was great, and the combined influence of the sun and certain premium Moroccan substance really kept me away from the computer.

 

Anyway, Curve, Segovia was not a flamenco player, but a classical master. The classical guitar repertoire includes arrangements of tradicional Spanish music, but flamenco is more about jamming late at night in a tavern or by a bonfire.

 

Simon,

 

Glad you liked Madrid. Looong ago I used to be one of those annoying Spanish kids that invade Dublin every summer. One of my grandfathers was from Galicia, the Celtic Northwest of Spain, and though I had only been to Galicia once, as a little kid, Ireland gave me an eerie feeling of having been there before. I loved it. I even convinced the owner of the pub down the road that I was allowed to have a daily pint of ale (I was 15, but it was kind of true) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

I am not a big flamenco fan, but if you like it you should check Ketama, La Barberia del Sur and Navajita Platea. Those are probably the best groups making flamenco with contemporary pop/jazz influences. Great gypsy musicians, all of them.

 

My friend from Barcelona also recommended Rhinoceroses to me last weekend, so I´ll probably look for them the next time I go shopping for CD´s. I am currently listening very different things, from Massive Attack to Fun Lovin Criminals, Daft Punk, Saint Germain, Fatboy Slim, Primal Scream...I liked the two Kula Shaker CD´s very much...older things of Gary Numan and David Sylvian.

 

Send me an email, so we can keep in touch.

 

JoseC.

[Curve Dominant]

Simon,

 

I bought the Korg ElectribeS at 8th Street Music in Philly for $450US + PA sales tax, which brought it to about $480US. So if you find a comparable deal in NYC, that should save you about $300US.

 

The E-TribeS is phenomenal, you are going to luv it. You could cut an entire CD on that one unit alone.

 

I go to NYC all the time, it's just a 90 minute train ride from Illadelphia, so give me a heads-up when you go and we'll hook up for some drinks.

 

curvedominant

[Sofine]

JoseC,

 

I'll mail ya.

 

Curve,

 

US$480 for the Electribe. Man, what who why when did he what who? That's nearly half price to home. I hope to be over in the next 2 months - though I may be jumping jobs fairly soon - if this is the case then it'll be longer. When I do come over I'd love to meet up for pints.

 

I appreciate the value of my AkaiS2800i, but I do find it a pain in the ass to load up, manipulate and prepare for good sounds. I guess I'm just to used to working with fast PCs for work that get you results quickly and in a WYSIWYG fashion. This is why I'm interested in the Electribe. It seems to be quite easy and intuitive to use, especially for chopping and messing with samples. I understand it more or less, but I find the interface for samplers really non-intuitive and slow to use. Maybe I'm a lazy ba$tard.

 

The new job that I hope to be inolved with is an internet start-up. It's obviously pretty hard to get funding at the moment but it looks like we're gonna get a small bit - all we need. It is a website geared to promote (and sell) QUALITY unsigned Irish bands / musicians / songwriters over the internet, but also tied in with Irish radio, TV, print and large concerts. We have producers, engineers, studios, photographers, accountants, lawyers etc. in the wings too. It will be similar in functionality to www.peoplesound.com, except we will limit the number of bands per music genre and more importantly, we will have a much higher quality control (we will have a mixture of industry critics, professionals and celebrities - and ourselvers on the quality panel). When the site is ready to go (hopefully within a month or two) I'll post the URL. The design is world class and over 14 months of thought and sweat has gone into the structure and functionality of the site. It's exciting - I hope we get funding.

 

Simon http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

[flo]

Great thread happening here ! I'm just sorry I'm fashionably late for the party! I would agree that Morcheeba was a huge letdown for me especially after but chance picking the 1st one used and it being so awesome. I wish I could live in Euroland and devour the new shit coming out, I always feel like I'm playing catch up with this stuff, I just recently got into LTJ Bukem.

 

Curve !

 

I checked out your stuff and I'm digging it tons man. Excellent guitar work among other things. Is there a station on mp3.com for people on this forum, so we can check each other out ? Seems like a few of us come from the same background and stuff.

 

 

As for my setup it's small but it works!

 

1 macintosh 7600

1 g3 233 powerbook

1 Roland Xp-50 expanded with the orchestral board.

1 Proteus 2000

2 custom made guitars

1 digitech whammy 2 pedal

1 mesa boogie triaxis preamp

 

if anyone cares to check out some of my stuff

www.mp3.com/lemonadespeedster

 

later guys

[Anderton]

Don't forget we have a thread called "Is Your Music Any Good? Find Out Here" where you can solicit people's opinions of your music. I like keeping things concentrated in the one forum, as people get exposed to all kinds of music they might not otherwise check out.

[flo]

ooops sorry for the mishap !

thanks Craig for righting my wrongs !

[Curve Dominant]

Simon posts:

>>When I do come over I'd love to meet up for pints.<<

 

Yea, pints are good, let's do that.

 

The sampler on the E-TribeS is SOOO easy to use, it's redic.

 

Ya know folks, it's REALLY NICE to be on a thread with peeps who are not crushed with debilitating guilt over sampling and looping. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif That's what this is: a guilt-free thread. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

Flo, my bro, I'm listening to Chasing Ginger right now, and it is sweeet. "Ginger Has gotten away with zee micro films...AFTER HER!!!!!" I can totally see a hot babe with dark glasses and a Prada leather jacket running through the streets of Montreal. I'm gonna check out the rest of your stuff eventually, but you have great taste and great ears: the piece is really well balanced, both musically and in the mix, and the drum sounds are tasty.

 

Thanks for the killer feedback on my shtuff. I'm originally a guitarist, and I am really digging the process of experimenting with ways to fuse guitar with electronica. It's a good fit, because, like electronica, the guitar is an extremely versatile instrument. The different types of sounds that one can get with an electric guitar can be orchestrated together in really interesting ways. Guitarists like Jimmy Page, Craig Anderton, and Jimi Hendrix who experimented with this early on are sort of godfathers of electronica.

 

peace...curvedominant

[flo]

Curve ! Your words are too kind, thanks bro.

 

I'm glad as well that we can have a thread that allows all as does electronica ! Breaking the rules is where it's at. I love playing my guitar over electronica you can get the funkiest sounds. Like your wah wah in sugar, it's sweet like shugga !!

 

I'm only saddened I haven't gotten a chance to here Craig Anderton and his guitar yet . Anywhere I can go to check it out ??????

[Anderton]

>>Guitarists like Jimmy Page, Craig Anderton, and Jimi Hendrix who experimented with this early on are sort of godfathers of electronica.<<

 

To be even mentioned in the same sentence as Page and Hendrix makes my day!!!!!!! Damn, that feels good http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

As to the post about where to hear me, you mostly have to go to Germany...sorry. But I am working on some CDs that will do the job, I'm just kinda slow at getting them out. My most recent CD, "Naval Escort Remixes," has some of my guitar but also lots of other people's loops because it was based on a movie soundtrack. The next one will have a lot more of the guitar/electronica fusion.

 

BTW Curve - as an Electribe fan, check out the video that goes with the Korg Electribes review on the home page. The performance by James Bernard is KILLER!! Okay, it's a couple megs to download, but it's really worth it.

[Curve Dominant]

Craig.

 

I thought you'd like that. Thanks for that tip - I never would have noticed that, 'cause I usually skip the homepage and go right to forums.

 

Does anyone else have some electro mp3's they wanna post? I realize there's another thread for mp3's, but this is a more specialized thread, and the other one has gotten a little unweildy.

 

curvedominant

[Anderton]

>>Thanks for that tip - I never would have noticed that, 'cause I usually skip the homepage and go right to forums.<<

 

You're missing a lot of cool stuff!!!!! The "Connections" pieces that Andy Ellis has been doing are killer. Check out what he did with Buddy Guy, for example.

[Curve Dominant]

I just watched James Bernard's E-Tribe video...AMAZING!!! He's like the E-Tribe sorcerer-delux. I bet Korg luves him: what a great advertisement.

 

It's so funny...I originally got the E-TribeS merely because I was shopping for a new drum machine, having grown tired of the sounds on the Alesis SR16, and BLAMMO! This whole new universe opens up right under my nose.

 

THANKS KORG!!!

 

curvedominant

[dansouth]

Yo Curve!

 

You and the other techno-philes NEED to check out this site:

 

http://www.mp3.com/trax_mx

 

Highly recommended!

 

Also, have a listen to Jim Bordner's son at

 

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/200/aiden_bordner.html

 

I don't know how old the kid is, but he ROCKS on Reason!

[Curve Dominant]

Burnin' the midnight oil, eh, Danno?

 

That JD990 is SOOOO FINE! I cut some trax with it tonight on a new jam I'm working on, and it's SWEEEEET! I may have to credit you on the liner notes of my CD.

 

I'll check those links tomorrow (today, actually) when I'm sober. I also have some comments for Hiraga, but I'm too chill right now to get into any details.

 

peace out,

curvedominant

[aeon]

Originally posted by Anderton:

Just wanted to remind people what this type of music is about...

 

I don't know if I entirely agree with that. I cannot deny the power of the groove, but at the same time, much of the music that has come out of-and-after the '90 Sheffield movement that reignited the whole electro scene has been more about the head than the ass, more about lying on the floor/sitting on the couch after returning from the club than the club itself, more about the cortex than the brain stem.

 

That said, if it is good, it is good. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

And Curve, thanks for starting this thread! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

 

Stuff I have been listening to and like (I put an asterisk next to my faves):

 

Accelera Deck

Add N to (X)*

Adult

Aemic

Alphatronic

Amon Tobin

Andre Estermann

Andrea Parker

Animals on Wheels*

Aphelion

Aphex Twin*

Arovane*

Atom Heart

Auch

Autechre*

Autophonic

B. Fleischmann*

Balil*

Barbara Morgenstern*

Black Dog*

Boards of Canada*

Bochum Welt

Bola

Cathars

Colongib

Cristian Vogel

Disjecta*

elco

Farmers Manual

Faultline

Fennesz

Fizzarum*

Funckarma*

Funkstörung*

Future Sound of London*

General Magic

Gescom*

Global Communication*

Goem

Goldfrapp*

i-f

Isan

Jake Mandell

Jamie Lidell

Jega*

Kit Clayton*

L'usine

Ladytron

Laika*

Le Car

Lexaunculpt

LFO*

Lilienthal

Lithops*

Locust*

Luke Slater

M-Tek

Markant

Massive Attack*

Metamatics

Michael Fakesch

Microstoria*

Mighty Math*

Mika Vainio

Monolake*

Motor*

Mouse on Mars*

Mum

Nightmares on Wax

Novel 23

Orb, The*

Orbital

Pamatex

Pansonic*

Passarani 2099

Philus

Phoenecia*

Phthalocyanine

Pita

Plaid*

Plone*

Pluxus

Portishead*

Prefuse 73

Produkt

Push Botton Objects

Reload*

Ritchie Hawtin

Q-Bert, DJ

Sensorama*

Solar X

Solvent

Speedy J*

Squarepusher*

Subsurfing*

Sun Electric*

Supercollider*

Sutekh

Takeshi

Tetsu Inoue

Tocotronic

Ultra Milkmaids

Unagi Patrol

Varathane

 

I do not do much writing myself, but I enjoy the paradoxical split of programming, mixing, and the engineering side along with the abstract conceptual side of music creation. I have participated in a couple of collabs with people I have never met over the 'net. That can be really fun, and I would love to do further programming and mix work. I use the following equipment:

 

Apple PowerMac G3, Beige, 500MHz, 384MB RAM, 100GB local disk, ProTools24 w/2 vintage farms, 882/20, ADAT Bridge, Apple PowerMac 9500, 233MHz, Korg Oasys PCI, Apple Quadra 630, ProTools 5.1, MOTU Digital Performer 2.72, Emagic Logic Audio 4.7, Clavia Nord Modular (keys, DSP-expanded), Waldorf Q Rack, Waldorf Pulse, Yamaha SY99, Access Virus b, E-mu XL-1 w/Rob Papen ROM, Roland JD-990 w/Vintage board, Roland DJ-70mkII w/32MB RAM, t.c. electronic M3000, t.c. electronic FireworX, t.c. electronic D-Two, Lexicon PCM-81, Lexicon NuVerb, Lexicon MPX 500, Sony DPS-V77, Roland SDX-330, Korg SDD-3300, Peavey PC-1600x, Allen&Heath Mixwizard 16:2, FMRAudio RNC1773, and a few plug-ins and softsynths. I have bought, sold, and traded a lot of equipment over the last 15 years.

 

I first started making electro music in the mid-80s, inspired by a lot of stuff out of the UK like Cabaret Voltaire and the whole post-punk new wave/new romantic movement. It was a lonely experience being into that kind of thing as a late teen in the Midwest! I was so excited in 1989/1990 when it was apparent a new cultural movement was happening in the industrial towns of England, most notably Sheffield...the 12"ers would arrive in the mail, and I got to hear a lot of good and primal electro...bleepcore was alive, and with a completely different, yet related, feel to the techno of 1984 Detroit and house of 1987 Chicago. 11 years later, and here we are today...a movement with dozens of styles that seems to get little media exposure in the US beyond 4-on-the-floor thumpers.

[Curve Dominant]

Aeon,

 

Fantastic post. Welcome to the groove lounge. I totally agree with you that electro has opened up a new world of head music, and I luv that aspect of it. The music I'm currently creating is a sort of experiment in fusing head with dance grooves, and it's coming along quite well. Thanks for sharing that sound library with us. This thread is becoming quite a comprehensive index of past and current electro acts and releases. You also have quite an impressive arsenal of gear. Dan South recently sent me a Roland JD990 with the Vintage Synthe board, and I'm already cutting phatt tracks with it - it's a really great box. I'm looking forward to buying some more expansion boards to use in the JD990...do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions as to what are some cool boards to put in the 990 and where's a good place to find good prices on them? I'm especially interested in realistic orchestral sounds, since I like to compose classical arrangements and set them to electronic grooves. I'm already using the Korg ElectribeS for composing beats and grooves, so I've got that side of things well covered, plus I play guitar adequately, so that's covered as well.

 

Aeon, I too am always interested in collaborations. Check out my music at the link below, and see if you get any ideas:

 

www.mp3.com/TransluxTheater

 

...bear in mind that there's nothing that I'm currently working on there - it's all older stuff that's not "on the market" anymore, but you'll get an idea of where my head is at.

 

Hiraga,

 

Ya know, come to think of it, I DO sequence quite a bit on the E-TribeS, especially basslines. It does amazingly phatt and supple basslines if you learn the tricks on how to manipulate the programming subtleties of the box. It's also an excellent sampler, and it has FX, so you can get some awesome sounds for bass. I have also experimented with sampling orchestrated strings and sequencing them into chord changes, creating pads, playing them in reverse, etc. It's just that when you first asked me if I use it as a sequencer, I thought you ment to trigger other units, for some reason. MIDI and sampling are still a little new to me, so I don't always use or interpret the lingo correctly, but I'm learning.

 

There's more, but I'll let others chime in...

curvedominant

[aeon]

Originally posted by Curve Dominant:

Dan South recently sent me a Roland JD990 with the Vintage Synthe board, and I'm already cutting phatt tracks with it - it's a really great box. I'm looking forward to buying some more expansion boards to use in the JD990...do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions as to what are some cool boards to put in the 990 and where's a good place to find good prices on them?

 

Being that I like synthy sounds, I never considered anything other than the Vintage board for my JD-990. Plus, swapping boards would be a little bit of a pain. I would recommend getting a used JV-1080 with a couple of the orchestral boards, or look into a E-mu Virtuoso module with an added XL-1 ROM. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif

 

And I agree the JD-990 is a great synth, with sound quality that trounces the JV/XP series. It is definitely one of my "will never sell pieces". I love the multimode filters of the JD-800/990, S-760/DJ-70mkII. The JD-990 has the wonderful ability to go from sharp digital sounds to very warm, analog-esque tones. Mine lives to be a stringpad machine...I have the Strings wave card in the front slot, and it passes directly into a Roland SDX-330 Dimensional Expander (choral modulations on steroids). That combo really delivers the lush, organic, swirling tones I love.

[Curve Dominant]

Wow, Aeon, you are totally speaking my language with your taste in sounds. A few questions, if you don't mind terribly. You would be doing me a tremendous favor...

 

>>The JD-990 has the wonderful ability to go from sharp digital sounds to very warm, analog-esque tones. Mine lives to be a stringpad machine...I have the Strings wave card in the front slot,<<

 

Would that be the PCM card slot? Can I buy one of these "wave cards" somewhere?

 

>>and it passes directly into a Roland SDX-330 Dimensional Expander (choral modulations on steroids). That combo really delivers the lush, organic, swirling tones I love.<<

 

Whoah, baby! This is where you got me foaming at the soul. How much would this SDX-330 set me back by? Would you recommend finding one used? "Lush, organic, swirling tones" are what I live for.

 

>>I would recommend getting a used JV-1080 with a couple of the orchestral boards<<

 

Are those boards not backwards-compatible to the JD990?

 

Dan, if you're reading this, feel free to chime in.

[aeon]

Originally posted by Curve Dominant and aeon:

>>The JD-990 has the wonderful ability to go from sharp digital sounds to very warm, analog-esque tones. Mine lives to be a stringpad machine...I have the Strings wave card in the front slot,<<

 

Would that be the PCM card slot? Can I buy one of these "wave cards" somewhere?

 

That would be a combo of a short wave ROM in the PCM slot and a long patch ROM in the other slot.

 

The cards show up from time to time on the 'net, but are fairly rare. In particular, you almost never see the Strings set (#4), which features some more "realistic" attacks and sustains. Another decent set is Dance Drums (#2), which has all manner of 808, 909, 78, and other retro-modern electro drumsamples on it. I think its usefulness is somewhat compromised though by the JD-990s envelopes, which are not lightning fast. That said, the JD-990 can do some lovely analog-style hi-hats by doing highpass filtering of the onboard pink noise sample. By doing that and adding some degree of FXM in the matrix, you can coax all manner of fresh-sounding, yet classic, tones.

 

Originally posted by Curve Dominant and aeon:

>>and it passes directly into a Roland SDX-330 Dimensional Expander (choral modulations on steroids). That combo really delivers the lush, organic, swirling tones I love.<<

 

Whoah, baby! This is where you got me foaming at the soul. How much would this SDX-330 set me back by? Would you recommend finding one used? "Lush, organic, swirling tones" are what I live for.

 

You should be able to find one for around $300-325 used. It is a single-rack effects unit with analog stereo in and out. Built like a tank, it was made in 1994, and features no less than 16 algorithms, around 14 of which are chorus. Chorus gets no better than this. Extensive MIDI and footswitch control. It can deliver subtle thickening or the richest creamy, buttery syrup.

 

Originally posted by Curve Dominant and aeon:

>>I would recommend getting a used JV-1080 with a couple of the orchestral boards<<

 

Are those boards not backwards-compatible to the JD990?

 

They are, but again, the JD-990 only has one board slot, so swapping them in and out would be a pain, not to mention probably exceeding the insertion rating for the assembly. Also, I think Roland has 2 orchestral cards.

 

Let's get back on topic...the Funckarma is out! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

 

This message has been edited by aeon@mediaone.net on 05-07-2001 at 12:24 PM

[dansouth]

One minor problem with the 990 for techno music is that you can't sync the LFO's to MIDI, so I'd use it more for layers, pads, etc. Although it DID provide the main S&H sound for Rain Dance (Curve, you know what I'm talking about). 1080 and future modules WILL sync LFO's to MIDI.

[hiraga]

Curve, I got all the Korgs.. hehe.. I'll let you know.

 

The efx I definitely won't use, I got two Eventide H3000s, Sherman Filter Bank, TC M2000 & M3000, Roland SDE-3000, more stuff and loads of stompz. And those little black boxes I did myself..

 

Way kewl post Aeon!

 

 

 

This message has been edited by hiraga on 05-07-2001 at 01:04 PM

[Sofine]

Hiraga,

 

I use the Sherman Filter Bank (version 1) too. I mainly use it to filter duplicate drum loops as fills or breaks. I haven't got around to using any of its MIDI capabilities yet, have you? If so, how and what for?

 

Aeon,

 

Now that's what I call an impressive musical instrument collection, 2001.

 

Si http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

[hiraga]

Sorry, Sofine.. I never MIDI'ed it.. Does it even have MIDI??? I'm a knob turner..