Berny Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Hi ! My name is Bernard and i would like some advice from you; I own a powerfull PC ( AMD Atlon K7processor 700MHz with 128 Meg of RAM and 15Gig H-D) Now i'm pretty used to midi cause i have an old quadrasynth from Alesis, an Korg X5DR, a Alpha Juno-2 and a piano tone module TX-1P from Yamaha, every thing is plugged via an UX-256 Yamaha USB interface and all my midi and audio is running on ubase VST 32 (5.0) As a begenner in audio recording, i would like to blend my midi with audio. I own a little home studio but i need to upgrade some of my peripherals to let all the synths plugged and also make some hard disk recording... First, my mixer need to be change (it's a Boss BX-800 from Roland 1984!!)It did the job for a while but now i think it's a to noisy mixer to record audio with it... Next, in my computer there is a sound card fixed on the mother board... It's a poor little stereo card made by Yamaha whith their software synth full of latency....That need's to be upgraded to. My intention was to get at least 4 ins 4 outs from a respectable audio card: The Delta 44 from Midi man, and i was planning to buy an analog console with more inputs and some one told me "get the inline monitors on your mixer cause you'll be plugging and unplugging all the time to ear what you want..." Now i'm a little confuse cause i want a console configuration of at least 16ins with inline monitors... and an audio interface with 4ins 4outs.... What would you suggest me to do? An analog console or a digital one? I have found with my reserch that there is not much console with the features i want (16ins + inlin moni.balanced outputs with cannon jacks). Do i realy need a new mixer, or i should get a real audio interface insted?? So, to make a long story short... I don't want to buy things that are cheap and with restricted possibilities.... and i would like to get a setup good for several years; not a setup that i would have to change again the next year. Finally ,i want to plan for future. I red your colomn in EQ magazin and i think you're well informed in that domain and i hope that you'll give me good advice on my next purchase. Thanx Bernard from Montreal, Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Berny said: >>Hi ! My name is Bernard<< Hi Bernard - welcome to the forums! >> and i would like some advice from you; I own a powerfull PC ( AMD Atlon K7processor 700MHz with 128 Meg of RAM and 15Gig H-D) Now i'm pretty used to midi cause i have an old quadrasynth from Alesis, an Korg X5DR, a Alpha Juno-2 and a piano tone module TX-1P from Yamaha, every thing is plugged via an UX-256 Yamaha USB interface and all my midi and audio is running on ubase VST 32 (5.0)<< Nice little collection of gear you have! >>As a begenner in audio recording, i would like to blend my midi with audio. I own a little home studio but i need to upgrade some of my peripherals (snip)...First, my mixer need to be change (it's a Boss BX-800 from Roland1984!!)<< Yup, I'd say that is a good thing to upgrade! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif >>Next, in my computer there is a sound card fixed on the mother board... It's a poor little stereo card made by Yamaha whith their software synth full of latency....That need's to be upgraded to.<< Yup, you can usually disable these onboard audio cards in BIOS, and just add the Delta or whatever. >>My intention was to get at least 4 ins 4 outs from a respectable audio card: The Delta 44 from Midi man, and i was planning to buy an analog console with more inputs and some one told me "get the inline monitors on your mixer cause you'll be plugging and unplugging all the time to ear what you want..." Now i'm a little confuse cause i want a console configuration of at least 16ins with inline monitors... and an audio interface with 4ins 4outs.... What would you suggest me to do? An analog console or a digital one?<< Okay, you asked for it - here's my suggestions: I'd get a Yamaha 01V with a MY8-AT option card for the Yamaha. That card ives the Yamaha 8 channels of digital I/O (lightpipe format). Then I'd get a soundcard that is just for audio use - no onboard synth (you have some good synths already, right?). Make usre that the card has Lightpipe I/O - something like a Frontier Designs Wavecenter or Dakota would be perfect. Here's why I make those suggestions: First of all, the Yamaha is a 24 channel mixer with 12 XLR inputs and several line level inputs, plus the (optional) 8 channel digital interface. Should be more than enough for what you want and need, and you can cascade two of them together if your setup ever grows to that point. Secondly, it can be fully automated with Cuebase - faders move and everything (very cool!) and you can even control Cuebase's on screen faders with the 01V's physical faders (again, very cool - much easier to mix with "real" controls than it is with a mouse). By hooking up the lightpipe card from the 01V to the computer, you can send up to 8 seperate and individual tracks at a time into and out of the computer. You can use those channels for multi - instrument "submixes" if you want to too. >>I don't want to buy things that are cheap and with restricted possibilities.... and i would like to get a setup good for several years; not a setup that i would have to change again the next year. Finally ,i want to plan for future.<< that's ver wise of you. Spend what you need to once rather than spending over and over, and trading in all the time - that's just throwing away money. I'm sure Craig will get back to you as soon as he can, I just wanted to throw my suggestions in so you'll have something to think about while you're waiting for his reply. Good luck, and let us know if you have any other questions. Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html email: pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansouth Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 Check out the Mackie 1202 VLZ or 1402 VLZ. They're inexpensive and very clean. Later, when you outgrow them, you'll still be able to use them as submixers. They're very useful. If you want to go digital, I'd suggest the 01V. It's been a great tool for me. But if I were in your position, I'd start with one of the Mackies, because they're easier to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 28, 2001 Share Posted February 28, 2001 The O1V/Adat card would be the best choice if your looking for the ultimate setup. However, it will probably cost you around $2000 for the bundle, but if you can afford it, it should be well worth the cost. You might also want to look at some of the new interfaces hitting the market that have built-in mic pre's. Aardvark has a unit coming out called the Q10 that has 8 mic pre's and is even bundled with Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. This should retail at well below $1000. Hoontech also has some comparble units as well. How many mic's/tracks do you plan on recording at any given time? If you don't need 8, then you might want to check out Echo's Mona interface as well. It has 4 very nice pre's. These all-in-one setups wouldn't be anywhere near as flexible as the O1V/Adat card option, but it should do the trick if you don't need the processing power of the 01V. Good luck, Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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