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Alright, Craig, you've inspired me. I decided a couple of months ago to get rid of some of my old gear, and I thought it might be fun to have a GEAR DONATION PROJECT in which I'll consider people's needs and give piece of gear away to people who seem to need them the most.


Before I get into the details, here's what I'm putting on the block:


1) one Roland MC-505 Groovebox - yeah, the big silver thing


2) one Roland JD-990 synth module


3) one Emu Proteus/1 synth module - it's an antique, but it still sounds good


4) one Alesis Quadraverb 2 - not an M6000, but very useful nonetheless


5) one beautiful Carvin LB-75 five string bass - too small for my hands



What do you have to do to get some of this gear? Well that's a good question. This is lonely, neglected gear. I want it to find a good home where someone will use it. To that end, I need you to do two things. First, for any of the above gear that you would like to bid on, you need to write me a little paragraph stating why I should give it to YOU and how you're planning to use it to make music (one paragraph per piece of gear). For example,


"Hey Dan, I'd love that JD-990, because my wife left me and took all my keyboards just as I was wrapping up my first symphony. I've been programming synths for ten years, and I promise to take good care of your JD! Oh, yeah, and I'm a big Steelers fan and Steely Dan can do no wrong. Pick me!"


You get the idea. Make it convincing. The SECOND thing that you need to do is to post the URL to MP3's with one or two bits of music that you've played or written or mixed so I know that you're a musician not just some bozo who's gonna sell my stuff on EBay for beer money. It doesn't have to be polished; in fact, if you promise to use my gear to make your tracks sound better, I'll be impressed. If you have already posted MP3 data on Craig's site, just point me to where I can find it. Don't send me a mix of Acid loops. I'm totally not into this loop phenomenon. I'd much rather hear something that you created yourself.




- You may enter for any or all of the gear, as long as you submit one and only one entry per piece. You may email me directly, but I would prefer that entries be posted as responses to this thread. You don't have to give me a surface mail address unless you're one of the winners. I'll just lose it, anyway. People can cheer you on, too. "Hey, Dan, so-and-so sounds cool. Give him the bass!" And of course, you can bash each other, as long as it doesn't get too mean. I will disqualify meanies - especially the blue ones.


- All submissions must be made by 30 April 2001. I'll try to make a final decision by 31 May, but it depends on how many of you respond and how busy I am. I'll announce the DONATEES on this site.


- I won't accept any tapes or cassettes. You music submissions must be MP3s posted on the web. I will read all written entries, but I may skip music entries if your written submission doesn't inspire me.


- If you live in the U.S., I'll send you the gear, and if you're a nice person and it arrives in good shape, you can do me a favor and send me a money order for the shipping charges. If you live outside the U.S., you're going to have to arrange and prepay the shipping (sorry).


- Please submit only one entry per piece of gear. If someone responds to your posted entry, you may respond in turn, but if you keep posting entries for the heck of it or send me mail every week asking if you've won, I will disqualify you for using up too much bandwidth. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif I'm not going to post a summarized list of entrants, because I'm as busy as you are. If you email me, I'll send you an acknowledgement by return email.


- All gear is offered "as is" and without warranty of any kind. It all works today, but if it dies the day you receive it or if it gets damaged in shipping, I'm not going to repair or replace it under any circumstances.


- All gear has been depreciated and, from an accounting stanpoint, is worth nothing. I'll set par value of each piece at $.01. In other words, if the piece you win is lost or damaged during shipping, all I owe you is a penny.


- If you trip over the gear, drop it on your foot, electrocute yourself with it, or lose your virginity because of the cool music you make with it, it's not my responsibility. Neither is any bad thing that ever happens to you for the rest of time.


- I will make the decisions as to who gets what, but I will ask the winners of Craig's contest for their input. - Guys, consider yourselves deputized. - All decisions are final. If you're a good loser, you'll be invited to my next gear giveaway contest. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif


- I reserve the right to add rules or modify existing rules to handle situations that I have not foreseen. I reserve the right to reschedule contest deadlines, but I will NOT move the submission date to before 30 April 2001. You have AT LEAST that long, but probably not longer.


- If this forum should disappear in the interim, we'll finish the GEAR DONATION PROJECT via email.


Okay, good luck, and let's all have some fun!


Ammendment 1 - I've decided to disallow personal email entries, so please post all entries to this thread. I like Craig's idea of keeping everything out in the open.


Disclaimer - This is NOT a contest, a sweepstakes, nor a lottery. The gear that is being distributed has been fully depreciated and is valueless. This is merely an attempt to unite deserving parties with gear that I no longer need.


This message has been edited by dansouth@yahoo.com on 03-05-2001 at 11:29 PM

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>>I will disqualify meanies - especially the blue ones.


Guess we've all been having too much fun with the Walrus' Beatlespam post...hehehehe...


I'll have to think to come up with a quality post. (Homer Simpson voice): No ebay for beeeeer money? DOH!

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Originally posted by dansouth@yahoo.com:

4) one Alesis Quadraverb 2 - not an M6000, but very useful nonetheless


I'd like the Quadraverb 2 because:


A) It does great "ambient wash" effects ala Torn and Frisell


B) It would let me dedicate my Intellifex in my guitar rig to doing 8 tap chorus instead of having to give that up for delay/reverb


C) I'd like to be able to have it for a particular reverb/modulation thing it does with midi CC messages


D) I think I can rig it for for one gig I do to have a reverb "wash" as a dedicated discrete send, which would be a cool thing to have..


E) My Intellifex won't do a discrete multitap triplet/straight bounce delay, and the Quadraverb 2 will let me do that.



Uhm.... I don't really follow football, but the Steelers are alright by me...?



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I'd like to get the MC-505 because I know it well, and I appreciate it for its live usefulness; I once had it, but then I had a lot of debts to pay off and I had to let it go, with some other gear as well. I since recovered, but I haven't been able to get another one because its price steeped up quite a lot.

As a studio module its sounds are not that well-defined and neither too well-sampled, however its use is best served as a rhythm pattern generator and brief sequence organizer. Plus, the ability to load sequences from a Smart Card lets you bring your work along in other studios.

Unfortunately I have nothing online to listen to because I could not figure out how to put my audio thru my Imac; there seems to be some problems with the audio editor I have. My studio is, in fact, all hardware, and no processing is done thru the computer. Yet.

Thank you.

Max Ventura, Italy.
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well,i'd love to have a quadraverb 2 in my little studio.

i tried it out two years ago and was blown away.not only it is a good reverb-delay unit,but also a great creative tool.it allows you creating all sorts of weird effects.if i had it,i'd definitely push that machine to the max.

i haven't put any work of mine on the net yet.i'm a young guy who opened a project studio in udine(italy) two months ago.i'm ignorant,but passionate and willing to learn.and definitely not a "bozo",whatever that means... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

ciao dan,


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Hi all,


Thanks to the early posters! Please be advised that I posted an ammendment to the rules this morning disallowing personal email entries. Please submit all entries to the thread, and don't forget to let me know where to find your music submissions (you can add this later if they're not ready yet).


Good luck!

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Hey Dan:


This is very cool of you, and a great idea for depreciated gear! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif


I'll be watching the posts with you and making my suggestions.


I thought there'd be more funny ones - you know, more creativity.


Come on people, this is a VERY cool thing Dan's offering here - put some thought into it and make us smile with your post... or tug at our heartstrings - make me want to suggest to Dan that YOU deserve the item!



Phil O'Keefe

Sound Sanctuary Recording

Riverside CA


email: pokeefe777@msn.com

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Okay, here goes:


As far as sob stories, my piano (part of a scholarship) and gear such as it was- good enclosed headphones, Alesis microverb, etc., were sold by my girlfriend in California as soon as I took off for Europe for the first time. Long-years-since ex-girlfriend, imagine that. Well- easy come, easy go.


However, with a decent mic, an ok pre-amp, D/A convertor, card and software now, I don't need any of the gear. Now that we have a place with great acoustics, I can just write out parts for any non-virtual organic musicians and record them here or in the studio about which you will momentarily read.


So I'm set.


On the other hand, my friend Marko is building a wonderful basement studio, doing it right with double floors and walls, three rooms, bathroom and crash-pad for visiting musicians.


The studio has its own toilet.


With a wife and daughter (Aliska, a bit over a year old and cute as a button) and working 50+ hours a week at the national radio/tv, it's slow going.


There are no .mp3s of his work on the net, but he records everything- voice-overs, commercials, folk music, fusion, you name it, and a good 100,000+ people or so hear his work every day without realizing it. He is building a "musician oriented" studio aimed not only at the many talented local youngsters, but with an eye toward bands coming from further away.


I have donated a midi controller keyboard to the cause, as well as an old bass head that came into my hands in circumstances I still don't fully comprehend- (somebody gave it to someone who gave it to some guy who left the country forever and their girlfriend gave it to me?? is that karma?)and we have dreamed of making off with a huge old plate reverb lying around in the wake of the current rennovations at the station, but that will wind up in the hands of someone with much more seniority and far less talent.


The Quadraverb would be a great thing for him.


If you choose to walk the path of righteousness and wisdom http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif and give the reverb unit to him, it would be a good idea to mail it to me and I'll take it across the border to him, as the post office where he lives (we were neighbors) has already managed to "lose" my LP collection, some vintage Hawaain shirts and the wedding gift from my parents.


-Cameron Bobro, acting ambassador for Marko, Mojca and Aliska. Names presented in inverse order of huggableness.

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Well I'll tell you why I deserve the Quadraverb. i have a small home studio that has been stocked by a few lucky chances and hard work. I'm putting myself through school and am a second year EE major in Austin and have been engineering for about 4 years. Right now my reverb is my shower and oven, my flanger are two delays that I've gotten pretty good at tweaking, and I'm trying to resurrect a broken phaser someone gave me. A friend of mine had the same Quad 2 you have and I used it and fell in love with it.

No sob story here. My wife supports my "habit" and while I have lost gear in the past (most recently a Korg Poly6 analog synth walked off at a show), I count myself as being pretty lucky.

Perhaps someone else will tell you a great story about how they're gonna make the sweetest songs and change the world with it, but I promise you it will be used in every way that Alesis never imagined possible. Poverty breeds creativity.

My site www.wormhole.cc. Follow the PsyLons link. The navigation bar may be down but I'm working on it so check back.

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Item #1)

Once upon a time there was a lonely young man named Musicman. He was ever so musically inclined, and loved new toys. But alas, his wife and his dogs and his cats and his house left no room in his wallet for new toys. Then one day some cool dude had a contest. Wouldn't it be nice if MusicMan won one?




I have no idea what this synth module is, or what it could do, or how to use it, but I am confident that the spirit of Dan South will guide me!




See item # 2.=)




My best friend Chris had one of these years ago and would never let me borrow it. He loved that thing but got rid of it years ago! Wouldn't he be envious if he knew that I won one?




OH Baby, I play guitar, bass, drums, keys, sing, tambo, kazoo, shaker, triangle, backgammon, stratego, etc... What say you let me add a 5-string Carvin Bass to that list? (wink)


I could find great use for all these wonderful things in my modest studio.


You are a gem for offering this contest...




John Palumbo


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A fellow by the name of John Palumbo played bass for Crack The Sky and the B.E. Taylor group. Any relation?


Boy, the Quadraverb 2 seems like the popular unit! I have an original Quadraverb, also. I'll offer that to the runner up of the Quadraverb 2 contest.


Thanks to all entrants. I'll try to check out some MP3's this weekend.

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>>>"Hey Dan, I'd love that JD-990, because my wife left me and took all my keyboards just as I was wrapping up my first symphony. I've been programming synths for ten years, and I promise to take good care of your JD! Oh, yeah, and I'm a big Steelers fan and Steely Dan can do no wrong. Pick me!"


Yes, I agree,Steely Dan can do no wrong. However, I live in Western New York ,smack dab in the middle of Bills country(I hope this doesn't disqualify me). By the way,Jim Kelly was born near Pittsburg, and the Steelers are my second favorite team.(really).If you check out my mp3's you will notice an empty area that the JD would fill nicely.

Also the bass parts were done on a borrowed(sob...sob...sob)axe. I can only imagine how nicely that low B would fit in my songs.

I'm sure you will do the right thing.Thanks for your consideration.







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I can vouch 4 KHAN making good use of the bass, and I don't blame him: I have a 5-string Ibanez with active EQ, and I luv it. That low B - I need it. A crucial instrument to a good studio.


I can also vouch for Argomax making good use of the 505. Massimo & I have had lengthy email exchanges discussing the pros & cons of various grooveboxes, and he really knows the territory.


I hope I'm not violating any Florida voting laws here.


Tutto posto, ciao, Danno.

Eric Vincent (ASCAP)


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As I am sure we are all aware, Curve is one of the most respected voices on these forums. By the way Dan, did you notice what Curve said?


>>>I can vouch 4 KHAN making good use of the bass>>>


YES!!! YES!!! YES!! !YES!!!



>>>I hope I'm not violating any Florida voting laws here.>>>


None that I'm aware of.




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I can't believe no one has spoken up regarding the Proteus/1. Okay, it's a dinosaur, but I have one and I love it!!!


Dan, if no one more deserving speaks up, I'd like that. As I said, I already have one - why would I want another one? Well, first of all, because I like the sound of them a LOT and secondly, because you can use the "MIDI overflow" on them to essentially lock two of them together for increased polyphony, etc. - which is really the main limitation I run into with that device.


And Dan, I know it's contrary to the rules, but I'd like to ask for the equivelancy of an absentee ballot here - for religious reasons (almost) I don't do MP3's, but if you REALLY need to hear one, I'd have to email it to you or get a MP3 site just for that reason alone (PLEASE don't make me do that!) But, you know me, and I don't even really drink (now THAT'S hard to believe - an Irishman who knows how to limit his beer drinking?!?) so I'd never sell it for beer money... I'm not asking you to change the rules on my account, but gawd, I HATE MP3's.... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif And the Steelers are pretty darn cool... I don't have a prefernece in teams though - LA isn't a great place for pro football http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif BUT I've been a big Steely Dan fan since first heard "Do It Again" on the radio...


With as much gear as I have, I feel really bad "bidding" on this device, but I can never seem to find one locally that actually works, and I've been wary of the whole Ebay thing... So if someone else wants it, please consider them first.



Thanks Dan!



Phil O'Keefe

Sound Sanctuary Recording

Riverside CA


email: pokeefe777@msn.com

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Thanks to all for your entertaining and heartfelt posts. I'll acknowledge each of you individually so that you know that I'm keeping track. I'm very busy this week - day job, pays the bills!, plus music half the night. ;-P


If any of you, like Phil, are anti-MP3, you can send a CD or cassette to Dan South, P.O. Box 230, Metuchen, NJ 08840. Be sure to include the name you use here on the thread, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't ask me to return your recording. Let me be clear on that. I just don't have the time. I'll be too busy packaging up your goodies and carting them over to FedEx. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Yipes! Synth modules? Drum machines? Carvin basses? Alesis products?


Good thing I've already got a good lead in Craig's contest! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


But uh... seriously, that's a really cool thing to have a gear giveaway, Dan. And I'll second my vote for giving the bass to Khan! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif


Just be sure not to send anything to ME, OK? http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gif



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Originally posted by dansouth@yahoo.com:

... Metuchen, NJ... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif


Ah, so your a Joisy boy!


I'm in the NY Hudson Valley now, but I grew up in Joisy...Rahway - Jamesburg, and spent a lot of time in Central Joisy...Roselle, Edison, New Brunswick...etc.


Routes 1 & 9, Route 35 to the Shore, some good clubs and bands back then...ahhhh, "...memories...of the way it used be..."

Man, it brings a tear to my eye!


Some good times were had from the 70's to mid 80's before I moved Upstate NY.

miroslav - miroslavmusic.com


"Just because it happened to you, it doesn't mean it's important."

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I grew up in Cliffwood Beach, NJ. I live in Indiana now. Spent a lot of time in same places. Family in Edison, Lakewood, Seaside Heights, Sayreville. (family member owned the gangplank motel on Sumner). Lived in Spotswood, NJ for a year '92-'93. I worked in Hazlet at WVRM, now WCNJ, on my stepfathers radio show from '80 til '88.


If one more non-jersey person says, "So your from Joisey, I'll probably lose it. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif




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This is crazy enough to type away.



I would love to have that Carvin bass. I'm a solo musician that ends up playing drums, guitar, and whatever when doing my songs.

My songs always end up being just quite a few tracks of guitar. I do have an old epiphone bass, but it has a seriously bad neck and more than 15 minutes of playing this thing and I'm heading straight for major hand damage.

I am positive that my songs would benifit in a major way from real bass, rather than always jacking up the low end on the guitars to make up for the bass.

If one listens to the whole wad of stuff I have on mp3.com, they would see that I'm doing quite a few different types of music.

My stuff that is of the metalcore variety doeswn't suffer as much since that type of music usualyy barries the bass, anyway. I can usually get away without the bass.

The instrumental rock that I do, though, is in serious need of some bass.

I would like to think that I write some nice melodies and guitar stuff, but without a good bass to hold down the bottom and give me room to do more counterpoint, the guitar still has to be geared towards the rhythm.

I also tend to work with hip hopish, dancey type beats a lot, so it goes without saying that some bass would be mandatory.


On top of all this, I am working towards having everything I need so that I can have over people to make music and they don't have to bring anything.

Bass is where I'm lacking.


I'm not going to lie and say that I'm poverty stricken. I will say that I'm a security guard and I make 9.50 an hour. I'm by no means starving. I own a home. I have more than I could ever ask for now. My wife is wonderful, I have a decent set of drums, a whole mess of guitars, some workable recording gear, etc....

One does have to set priorities, though. I haven't bought any guitars in a long time. I'm focusing all my efforts and spare cash into getting my recording setup on a higher level. I'm still working with two 4-tracks. I like to think I get some good results, though.

My main goal is to get a Korg 16 track digital recorder. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

(I can't believe I'm actually doing this. I guess I'm not to proud to try.)


So here's my list of items that are on my waiting list for funds.


Sound Forge 5.0 (I have to buy this before March 16, because I got a special offer to get it at pre-order price, so it is the main priority)

Alesis 3630 (good entry level compressor since I need one bad)

A set of monitors (Monitoring on a cheap set of 5 year old consumer technics speakers is a bitch)

Some sort of parametric EQ (I need more control)

Mics (I'm currently working with nothing but radio shack mics)

Mic preamp (Of course, when I get some good mics, I need to get a good signal)

A better recorder (4 tracks is just not enough)

Effects processor (I use my guitar effects for these things, but this is always working in mono)


The dilemma: what do I get first??


Now, I have to add what I do have or I'll feel like I full of dog poop..


Yamaha mt4x

Fostex xr-7

Peavey 12 channel mixer

12 radio shack dynamics

3 radio shack condensers

1 radio shack pzm

Philips cdr recorder

3 upper level consumer tape decks


Peavey 2x12 combo

Peavey 2x10 combo

Peavey Mark 4 plus a Carvin 4x10 (Wouldn't that Carvin rule) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

9 electric guitars of various makes, etc...

Boss gt-3 effects

ART sgx-lt effects

A whole mess of pedals

Probably $1200 invested in my drums

A lot of other odds and ends


I also have to add that I am a bit of a music junkie and I'm buying cd's and vinyl all the time, so I put a lot of money into that, so I really can't complain about needing dough for the music MAKING.


Here you can listen to what you want to. I would suggest Scorpio as being one of the best examples of a song that really needs bass.

Any of the other instrumental rock songs would be good examples, too.

All of it, really. Not a single song there has any bass.

P.S. All of it is set for just streaming, so if you don't have a good bandwidth connection, let me know and I can set the stuff to be downloadable for a brief period.




I'd also like to add that I love making music and will give that baby a good home and will probably play holes in it.

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The lovely, talented , and highly respected Lee Flier http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net5/engel.gif wrote :

>>>And I'll second my vote for giving the bass to Khan!


Thanks Lee. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net6/jump2.gif

WOW!!!! Two heavyweights puttin' their $0.02 for ol' KHAN. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net3/smileJap.gif I am humbled.(not easy to do)... http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net3/eek.gif

Thanks so much.




BTW. Two new songs here to seal my fate.(one way or the other) http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net8/lol2.gif


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Originally posted by miroslav:

Ah, so your a Joisy boy!


No, Joe Piscopo is a JOISY boy. No one else on the planet talks like that (thank God). I grew up outside of Pittsburgh - that's Pittsburgh with an 'H' at the end, in honor of Franco Harris - and moved to NJ after college to pursue professional opportunities in the NYC area. Currently work in the World Trade Center.

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Originally posted by Lee Flier:

Just be sure not to send anything to ME, OK? http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gif


What? My gear's not good enough? Of all the nerve! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif


Actually, I was hoping to send you a CD of my AW4416 mixes, when I get enough of them compiled. No one escapes the Spanish Inquisition! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gif

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Dr. Destructo - I'll add you to the bass list. Are you interested in a five string specifically, or are you a 4-string man? I have a 20 year old Carvin 4 that I'll probably never play again. I wasn't going to pitch it for sentimental reasons, but as Frank Zappa once said, "Broken hearts are for assholes." Maybe this would fit your needs. We should discuss it further.


The rest of your message should go into a separate thread so that you can get advice from the many talented folk who frequent this site. My two cents are as follows: Definitely check out the new Korg D1600, as well as the older D16. Electronic Musician gave the D16 and editor's choice award. The price has been dropped dramatically, and there's a rebate offer going on now. Then I think you need to look seriously at updating your mic cabinet. Those Radio Shacks aren't going to get you to the next level. After that, do the compressor thing. The 3630 is surprisingly good for the $$, and it works well on bass.


Mic pre's are a luxury item. Don't go there until you're really sure you need them. There are a couple of CD's out that compare various mic pre's. I saw them on Sweetwater's web site recently and ordered them (they haven't arrived yet). Better to spend $30 on a CD than $3000 on the wrong piece of gear.


This message has been edited by dansouth@yahoo.com on 03-01-2001 at 10:47 PM

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Hi folks!


Sorry I didn't mention this sooner, but if you could mention the style or styles of music you write/play/compose/mix along with your submissions, that would be helpful. If you write both salsa and country, and I only listen to one of the country songs, I might not get a clear picture of your interests.




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