michaeljavierhotmail.com Posted January 31, 2001 Share Posted January 31, 2001 Torn between the listed mics for all-purpose use including vocals and drum overheads. Any suggestions? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyproaol.com Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 I had a 4033 (bought used, sorry to say) and found it noisy. I do a lot of Celtic Harp recording and found the hum unacceptable. Since it was a used piece, I couldn't bring it in for warrantee and I sold it to a rock guy who was and is thrilled with it. I'm using a CAD E-100 now and it's fine and sounds good, too. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Must've been a bad mic. The 4033 is a wonderful mic if you actually buy one new that works. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I have CAD E-100's and and 2-200 as well, and they are great for some applications - I'd say they "do" drums better than almost anything - but the 4033 works on everything I've thrown at it! If you need multipattern, go with the 4050. If not, the 4033 is fine. I don't have a Shure so unfortunately I can't offer a comparison there, but from what I can tell they are great too. Probably can't go wrong with either one. --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintbennettyahoo.com Posted February 4, 2001 Share Posted February 4, 2001 Michael, I've used both the 4033, 4050, and KSM32 (not the KSM44 yet) on many sessions for overheads and vocals. All good all-around mics. The 4050 and KSM32 I prefer a bit more. Overall, I've ended up reaching for the KSM32 most. I find the 4050 a bit too crispy on the highs (especially for some female vocals) where the Shure is certainly not. The 4050/33 also tend to have a low/mid scoop that sometimes is appealing, but I actually find somewhat hollow or distant sounding on drum overheads (compared to the Shure). It's all personal taste and completely dependent on what your source sounds like too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljavierhotmail.com Posted February 4, 2001 Author Share Posted February 4, 2001 Thanks for the feedback guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 Originally posted by johnnypro@aol.com: . I do a lot of Celtic Harp recording JP Johnny - You're the MAN! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Love Celtic music. Must be the green (Irish) blood. Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html email: pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 Originally posted by Lee Flier: Must've been a bad mic. The 4033 is a wonderful mic if you actually buy one new that works. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I have CAD E-100's and and 2-200 as well, and they are great for some applications - I'd say they "do" drums better than almost anything - but the 4033 works on everything I've thrown at it! If you need multipattern, go with the 4050. If not, the 4033 is fine. I don't have a Shure so unfortunately I can't offer a comparison there, but from what I can tell they are great too. Probably can't go wrong with either one. --Lee I've used the 4033 a lot, and I've found the high end is pretty crispy, although it is a pretty quiet mic. I agree with Lee here, you must have had a bad one. Lee, do you use your CAD E-200's as overheads? I use mine for that a lot and really like them in that application. As a matter of fact, that's pretty much ALL I ever use them for. Phil O'Keefe Sound Sanctuary Recording Riverside CA http://members.aol.com/ssanctuary/index.html email: pokeefe777@msn.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 Pokeweed http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif, I had a typo in that last message, I wrote "2-200" when I meant to say "E-200". In other words, I have only one of them. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif I do use my E-100's as overheads and love them for that purpose. The 200, I got because 1) I don't have any other multipattern mics and it's the cheapest one available, and 2) I figured since I liked the E-100's well enough, it would sound at least as good as those. Which it does. I mainly use it for acoustic guitar, and for the "gang background vocals around a microphone" thing, and anything else I need an omni or figure 8 mic for since I don't have any others right now. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif --Lee This message has been edited by Lee Flier on 02-05-2001 at 12:17 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 I don't see too many suggestions for AKG mics. How would a mic like the C3000B hold up against the ones listed? Bill Murphy www.murphonics.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchmo Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 I have used a pair of E 200's for drum overheads with very good results. Got a pair of 414's a couple of years ago and have used them ever since. Thought they sounded a little brighter and more "like you're there". Now that I think about it...gonna drag the E 200's back out for the next drum project and do a reality check. I've used the 200's for male and female vox as well as other usual large condensor applications with good results as well, however; since I picked up the 414's, the 200's sit in the closet most of the time. With the price of used E 200's around $250.00, I think a pair would be a good buy. BTW, I found it critical to keep 2 fresh 9 volts in each Cad for best tone and performance even with phantom power. They are suppose to charge when supplied with 9 volts but...and with a pair, that's 4 - 9 volt batteries. Finally ended up buying a rechargeable device for all my battery needs. I have 4033's that I've used on floor toms and percussion, especially deeper toned skinned instruments. Have used the 4033 for vox with varied results. Don't care for it as a drum o/h. With all the good words about the KSM 32's and 44's, guess I'll have to have a listen. Anybody a/b the BULS 414's to KSM 32 or 44's? I suppose you can never have too many mics but, there comes a point where...how many pairs of this level of mic to you need to have? IMHO, sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted February 5, 2001 Share Posted February 5, 2001 I did check out the lower priced AKG's and didn't really care for any of them. They don't sound as good as the ATs, they don't pick up the high end as well (seem a bit muddy), and if I recall correctly they can't handle the sound pressure levels that the CAD's can - they easily get absolutely flattened by guitar amps or drums. Some people like them who have Roland VS's and the like, who do mostly direct stuff and just need a mic for lead vocals. If you like the way it sounds on your voice, can't argue with that, but they don't seem to be very versatile. Just one person's opinion. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif --Lee This message has been edited by Lee Flier on 02-05-2001 at 12:15 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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