ani Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Darkon, If the access permissions are set correctly internally from the server, an access program should not be necessary. I have far too many mandatory programs installed on my hard drive to have to worry about downloading more bulky programs to access a server. I have my FTP set up to where people can access it with OR WITHOUT an FTP client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I'm just going to post it on my AL site, probably later tonight. Ani, what's happening with the Musicbizbuzz site, is it ever going to be up again? What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dan, post as soon as it's up! As far as the ftp goes Philip used his browser- http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=017677 I'm not sure what ibescotty used to connect. I did have someone else try with their IE browser and they were unable to connect, but with their ftp client(FlashFXP) they were able to connect, but Passive and NAT MUST be enabled or you will not get a listing. jlampson has offered to help out so I think the trouble will sort itself out Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dan, Check your PM's for a response about the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlampson Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 http://www.khuh.org/lot/upload/zc/darkon/ Darkon's Song ----------- John\'s Songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Ok, I just accessed the mp3 that jlampson put up. I take it that there is more in the works. What I'm hearing lyrically would be choral influenced, and not mainly a solo voice. Is there a prechorus and chorus that will break the repetition up some in the works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Thanks John! That's just a rough idea for the main hook, but yeah, think choral there and then maybe a solo voice refrain? Or mostly instrumental with just the choral section? Though I'm waiting to hear what Dan has come up with in order to see if we can't merge the two somehow Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20to20 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Good starts, Darkon & Dan... Dan, do you have any thoughts on any of the other sections...? Not necessarily musically, just conceptually... Bob Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by flyscots: What did you think of Kompakt & Absynth2?[/QB]Kompakt is nice, but a real hog on the cpu, Absynth is one of the best 'sounding' vsti's out here, if not he most practical for every style of music. If I need something that's a real attention grabber, that's the box I look in. The guitars on "The Siege" are from Kompakt. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Originally posted by 20to20: Good starts, Darkon & Dan... Dan, do you have any thoughts on any of the other sections...? Not necessarily musically, just conceptually... BobThanks Bob. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I also tried to connect with IE, but I got a blank screen and had to shut my browser down and restart it. I'll try the new link jlampson posted when I get back home. I'm at my folks house and they're on dial up. I'm building a lap steel guitar, maybe when I get it finished I can contribute something with it. I'll give the song a listen and post whatever I come up with. I'm still interested in working with ya'll even if I just post random guitar licks and let ya get creative with cut n' paste!! Hmmm.... That might be a good idea for another collaboration somewhere down the road... or maybe a solo project. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Cool idea Dan and great piece! bluestrat, I would love to hear some lap steel somewhere in the mix, think it would probably add another layer to the song! Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 I listened to that track, and it's great! You guys are out of my league. I'm not worthy! BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted January 25, 2004 Author Share Posted January 25, 2004 You just get that lap steel built soon, I'd really love to hear what it can do for this! Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 I've been doing a lot of tinkering with a program called Hammerhead ( link here ) lately, and haven't made any progress on the lap steel this week due to the snow (been stuck in Charlotte when the lap steel and workshop is in Gastonia ) I've been coming up with all kinds of drum beats, mostly fast, dance type stuff, but I've got a few with the tempo set at 120. This program is really getting me going. I've thought about making a few samples of distorted guitar chords and then using a "cut & paste" method to piece together a guitar rythym track. Maybe it'll fit with this project, maybe not, but that's the direction I'm headed in. I'll get to Gastonia this weekend for sure, so hopefully I'll make some headway on the steel gee-tar. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 8, 2004 Author Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hey Dan, mind if I mess a bit with the piece you put up...I hear some things in my head I'd like to add I'm sold on the outline you put up and would love to hear this get finished! Oh, and how's the other parts coming along? Want me to work on one of them? I'm assuming we can go ahead with your idea here....been quiet in this thread for a little bit so thought I'd knock down them cobwebs Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20to20 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 DtheI, Well, I'm following the progress and I'll be ready to jump in too, after you guys complete the general form a bit more... Can't wait to hear what you've got... Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 8, 2004 Author Share Posted February 8, 2004 Ok, sounds good to me! Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 Originally posted by Darkon the Incandescent: Oh, and how's the other parts coming along? Want me to work on one of them? I'm assuming we can go ahead with your idea here....been quiet in this thread for a little bit so thought I'd knock down them cobwebs Darkon the IncandescentHow's the other parts coming along? I assumed other people were working on the other parts. My part is written (roughly, anyway), add to it as you like, but that section is outlined for now. I assumed others would go with the titles as listed, and write musical sections based on those titles. If you guys are waiting for me to write the rest of the sections, then I may as well keep the whole concept for my next CD....n'est ce pas? What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 Gotcha! I'll start working on "The Road to Battle"...I hear some things in my head for that one. Least I think it's song ideas I'm hearing I'm still gonna experiment a bit with Draw the Sword...just a little extra instrumentation is all Don't you love it when a plan comes together! Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 I'm thinking it's just the three of us for right now till we get the skeleton of the piece done. How about splitting up the parts between us? I'd like to see some of the parts written by guitarists, bassists, drummers, etc. to get a different feel as the song progresses...but if not we can just let people add on later 20to20, you want to take on a couple of parts to start? Dan, you , and I will split them I'd like to work on The Road to Battle and Celebration...if it's just Dan and I, I wouldn't mind working on Breakdown in Negotiations as well Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I believe that I might can do something with the idea of Attack!. I'm thinking something with raw guitar tracks and hard & fast drums (probably using the Hammerhead drum machine program I've got now. ). I'll be working on it. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 9, 2004 Author Share Posted February 9, 2004 Cool! Crank it up Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted March 15, 2004 Author Share Posted March 15, 2004 Sorry I haven't been around lately...doing 60 hour weeks right now, Mon. through Saturday( busy as hell right now!) but within a few weeks I'll be back to normal to finish the section I started Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20to20 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I think it's cool to have a project or two simmerin' on the ol' back burner... I'm still interested in this one whenever it picks back up... Bob Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I've been bad and deserve to be beaten by women in black latex boots & corsets w/ riding crops while laying in lime green jello. Anyway, I haven't done much with this project, but the lap steel is nearing completion, so hopefully I'll get somethin' started soon. I've got a battery of drum beats ready to do battle, and I'm trying the chord snippet idea currently. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Well I'm glad you guys spoke up, because I was just about to pull my idea and use it for something else. What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20to20 Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Hey Fellers and Gals, When I read the following [by BOOKUMDANO], I thought of our little, simmerin' project here... Maybe we could apply some of the techniques, etc...? Bob ______________________________________________ Here\'s a link to the thread discussing the following YES article... There was a really good (long) article in R-E-P years ago about the making of the "Going For the One" album and the Yes recording process in general. It discussed how Yes songs ususally started with an idea like a two or three minute song by Jon on guitar (or sometimes Jon and Steve). They'd use that idea in a group meeting to discuss and chart out a basic section map for the arrangement. Then they'd record bass, drums, reference guitar, one song section at a time...not knowing for sure if each section would be used or how each section was going to seque in an out of the other sections ...which wouldn't be figured out until overdubbing was started. As a starting point, safeties were made of the tapes and then the sections would be roughly spliced together to create the overall basic track. Then overdubbing started with usually a first round of guitars for a week or so. Then a week or so of keyboard overdubbing. Final solos would be left until the arrangement structure was tested out and approved by everyone. As the arrangement and recording took shape, ideas would come up for arrangement changes or differing ideas on how to splice the sections. Some recorded parts would be dumped as sections were re-timed or spliced at different places...or newly thought up sections recorded and integrated into the overall piece. In the case of "Awaken" on "Going For the One", an entire 7 minute (or whatever it is) section of glockenspiel/bell tree hits were put in the middle of the song (similar concept to what the Beatles did on Day In the Life when they recorded Mal counting to thirty (?) during the section of the song they hadn't yet figured out). This section was for Rick to fill in with some sort of keyboard part. The only new keyboard around at that point was the new Moog Polymoog which was used for a bit, but then the decision was made to record a pipe organ for the part. The only pipe organ avaiable where the band was in Switzerland was at some cathedral so they rigged up an elablorate phone line system to record the part at the cathedral and pipe the signal to the studio. When that section was completed, the band moved on to the next section. If you listen closely to that section of "Awaken", you can hear the glockenspiel/bell tree just sort of fade out as the splice for the next section takes over. I'm sure that with that kind of recording process, the splices became more frequent and more precise as any particular song really started to take shape. I'm sure that Yes could have really made great use of Protools (or my vote Nuendo) back in the early days. All that physical splicing certainly must have been a nightmare. When I read that R-E-P article years ago, I thought it would be real interesting for Yes to put out a book someday, detailing their recording process on various albums. I would find that as interesting to read as the great "Beatles Sessions" book. Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20to20 Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 EDIT: APOLOGIES... I just went back in this thread a bit I found a big chunk of posts I had missed before... If this thing is still happening, I'm still interested in participating... However, I really can only respond to any initial ideas you guys concoct... I just heard a couple of great pieces by DanS: Overheard at the Bog and So Little Time at Dan\'s ArtistLaunch page... There's no way I can compose to that caliber, but if there were some "holes" left, I know I could add tasteful complements... And I'd love to edit/mix, do some soundesign and make useful suggestions, like... I think we should consider the addition of an overture that would introduce various elements from all of the different sections... __________________________________________ Oh, Darkon...? Please know that I do appreciate the humor in your initial posting for this thread... But what do you think about changing the Topic Title to better describe the project...? Bob Bob Phillips 20to20soundesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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