tuchel Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I have found the cymbals good to my naked ear, are not necessarily good recording ones. Assume I have really good mics, what am I listen for? Rides especially? tuchel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix stein Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I have had the same problems. It seems like paiste signatures sound a little better recorded to me. I don't like heavy cymbals for recording. Subsequently, I have some heavier A custom zildjians that I like to play live with. I tend to go for dry, lighter cymbals and I always try to listen for the shimmer...that tail end "zing" that is in the decay of a cymbal. YMMV...I helps to have nice overheads. I have some Neumann TLM 103's that are great...they really helped my cymbal sounds. Rides...are hard to describe for me...crisp, controlled, a like a little spread on the bow and a high pitched glassy bell. Paistes are nice for this. felix's band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcamletearthlink.net Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I agree with Felix, but i prefer the Paiste Traditional Series - of which i use a 20" med ride and an 18" med crash (that can certainly be used as a ride as well with a light touch). I think i just have expensive taste nowadays. I *love* UFIP's. I have a 20" Natural ride that just sounds good all the time in everyroom for any style of music. Pretty scary. I like it so much, i'm scared to lose it now - The zildjian Constantinople (sp?) line is gorgeous, but so damn expensive. However, if its an instrument u plan to keep indefinitely, a few hundred bucks isn't that much money.... ajc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuchel Posted March 29, 2001 Author Share Posted March 29, 2001 What are UFIP's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 I like the Zildjian K thin crashes, and especially the "dark" thin crashes, for recording. Thin cymbals ironically sound bigger when recorded than heavier ones. --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajcamletearthlink.net Posted March 29, 2001 Share Posted March 29, 2001 Tuchel: UFIP is an italilian cymbal manufacturer that i *think* is distributed by DW drums here in the US - but i might be wrong about that. Here's a link: www.ufip.com Check them out. I got the best 12" splash i ever had in my life from them. Of course, some idiot cracked it while sitting in one night - but thats another story/rant. Istanbul also makes some really colorful cymbals. Have not tried thier rides, but i own a 16" thin crash that is a staple on most gigs no matter what the genre is. Anybody checked out Bosphourus or Grand Master? ajc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix stein Posted March 30, 2001 Share Posted March 30, 2001 I did hear a glassy UFIP ride at the drum shop last year that was so bright to my ears it was amazing...unfortunately I was broke LOL. I have a bunch of bosphorus cymbals. They are dry, trashy sounding with complex overtones-they are very hard to control (for me), hard to play. I like them for some things but to me, they are the hardest cymbals I have ever tried to play. I have a few master and traditional series with a beautiful ride...it's a...shit let me look a sec...a Ferit series ride. I really dig that cymbal...it is soooooooo complex. I did a recording with it a few months ago where I was using bundle sticks...WOW. felix's band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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