doc3 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I have an SWR 4004 head (400w) and an 8ohm carvin 4x10 cab. I want to purchase an additional 8ohm cabinet for this setup. My budget is less than $400, so I'm mostly looking at the used market. My current 2 choices are a used mesa-boogie 1x15($300) and a new ashdown mag 4x10($300). (both 8ohm cabs) Which of these 2 do you think would make the best addition to my current setup? any other suggestions welcome. thank you. ps. bass is 70's Fender Precision, w/badass bridge and emg active pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Which one sounds better? www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacked Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I have the same amp and personally I would sell the carvin and get a 4ohm cab instead, or keep the carvin for smaller gigs. but bottom line, try the cabs out and see what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc3 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 They both sound good, but since they are in seperate stores, I can't a/b them. Also, I've only played them by themselves, not along with my other cabinet. Does anyone have good/bad experince in combining a 15 and a 4x10, as opposed to 2 4x10's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky McDougall Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 My temptation would be to go to the 1x15 because I think it would give you a broader tone. I think another 4 x 10 would just give you twice as much as you already have. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb, voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldena Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I have used a 1x15 with a 4x10 and it sounded great. Since both cabs were 8 ohms, it was sort of required for me to get full power out of my amp. Which brings up the 4 ohm/8 ohm issue again. Now I have two 4 ohm cabs, and can't use them together, as my amp has a 4 ohm minimum. You can never have too many cabs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy from Motown Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Why do you need more than a 410? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackimo Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I have an approximate rig myself and everytime I start looking into adding another cab, I ask myself why? If I ever do add a cab, I would think a 15 would be more reasonable, as it would provide me with a different tone. "Some people are like "slinkies". They're not really good for anything; but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Whacked: I have the same amp and personally I would sell the carvin and get a 4ohm cab instead, or keep the carvin for smaller gigs. but bottom line, try the cabs out and see what you think. Yeah. Then you'd have $6-700 and could get higher quality used cab. It's unlikely you need more than a 4x10 or a 2x12. www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I've used a 4x10 Hartke with a 1x15 Boogie (powered by a GK amp) and thought it sounded great. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhomer Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I'm gonna throw a little something different at ya.... For the past couple years or so I've been running through my self designed/built 4/10-1/18 rig, and I thought I was satisfied with the sound this was generating. But there seemed to be drawbacks to riding this horse as well... the main issue being the sound was being "thrown" about 35 feet into the room! We have 4-18's for PA subs, and it became apparent the only thing being run through em was the kick drum... The guy running the sound tried his damndest to try to bring some bass definition into the dance floor area... Wellll... about a couple months back we played this particular club for the first time.. and it was a VERY small room. It became very apparent to me my big rig would be simply overkill. I have carried a couple of Eminence Delta12 LFA's around in the truck (another set of self designed/built cabs) for a while now, I never used them with my current amp, but I figured first time for everything.. The band and I were very pleasantly surprised with the results! So much so I just put the 18 cab in storage, and use the 4-10 cab to put the 12's at ear level. The PA handles a little more fundamental now, and everyone is much happier... Something to think about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc3 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Thanks for all the insightful opinions. I'm leaning toward the mesa 15. My carvin 4x10 is quite deep, though. As far as physical placement, the 15 might have to go on top of the 4x10. Is this something I shouldn't do or does it make much difference? thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc3 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 oh, to answer the question, "Why do you need more than a 410?" My 4x10 is 8ohm, and my amp is 4ohm. So I thought adding another 8ohm cab would enable the most effiency from the amp. It's not so much that I need more volume, but more clarity in the low end.....a little more power and headroom from the amp. (the amp is 400w at 4ohms) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Maybe it's the amp you should change. It really isn't that powerful. www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 If you're anywhere in the southeastern part of the US, I'll trade you a Fender Bassman 410 and 115 that are sitting in my closet for your Carvin. They sound perfectly good but I got my hands on an AccuGroove a while back and I have no use for them. My initial reaction would be to go with the 115 but if you're having trouble getting definition I'd say do another 410. If you already have 4 18s pumping, you probably have way too many low frequencies bouncing around and could use more mids (something 10s are good for). If you go with a 115 I'd suggest putting it under the 410 for a few reasons. The most important reason (to me anyway) is that the lows from the 115 will spread in every direction while the mids and highs from the 410 more or less shoot straight forward and putting it on top will give you a better angle for hearing yourself onstage. I found that stacking my Bassman cabs like this greatly improved the way I heard myself even if I didn't plug the 115 in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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