butcherNburn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Originally posted by thabottomend: ...I would rather see the Super Bowl played the way football was meant to be played - in an open-air stadium on grass (or whatever may be on the ground. Can you say Lambeau Field or Foxboro in February? Are you ready for some FOOTBALL?) I've always said similar. Let the team with the best record host the game or switch between leagues at least. Other sports do it. Football is a game meant to be in the elements. If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brown Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well, I'm not a huge Stones fan. In fact, I don't even own a single Stones album. I do recognize they are a band full of wankers, and if you want to wank out, they are the best choice. I merely said it was, IMHO, the best halftime show in years. My primary reasons were that they played live with a minimum of production, no medleys and no guests. It was, evidently, a close approximation of being at a real Stones concert, wankin' and tuning problems and all. I did hear the voices out of tune, the guitar sound uneven and out of time and all that stuff. It wasn't an especially inspiring music performance, and I won't be buying the CD. Of course, what I'd like at the Super Bowl wouldn't be a big draw, I imagine. I'd program Allison Krauss and Union Station. Given the quality of the game yesterday, I'd have played only 3 quarters and finished up with a full AKUS concert. AKUS wouldn't come; nobody can play good when people through beers at them. As far as a marching band goes, I have my own set of fully formed prejudices there. Marching bands are, to me, the most artificial of musical entities. Originally formed in the military, they have legitimized themselves as musical entities primarily because of their association with football halftime. Marching bands generally don't continue past college, as far as I know there is no marching band that sells subscription concerts (like symphonies do.) High school marching bands here in Texas have become so competitive that there are HS bands that own their own tractor-trailer rigs to haul stuff around. Some schools put shows on the field that cost in excess of $100K per season. Of course, this makes a "have-have not" division in the education of students. I will readily admit, however, that wind ensembles and some of the music being written for this entity are really neat to listen to, for the sheer power of their sound. I HATE when they play transcribed orchestra or rock music, which always seems inauthentic. Yep. I'm the other voice in the head of davebrownbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fonz Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 i said the same thing last night: play it in lambeau. i want to see a superbowl in the snow. a real football game. Eeeeeehhhhhhhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 sorry for the mis-post. Fumble If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Halftime show should have been Mother's Finest, if they're still alive. Two of the weaker teams that have made it to the Super Bowl was what I saw; the officials managed to be a factor again with every ticky-tack call going against Seattle, especially the phantom holding call which wasn't close. Jeremy- when were you in the 49ers band? A high-school buddy and teammate of mine was a 1st round pick of theirs in '79 and played with them for five years including the first two of their Super Bowls. LB Dan Bunz (#57) made the big tackles in their goal line stand against the favored Bengals, in Detroit in SB XVI. www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I think the year I was in the band was '93. We did not ever meet the players, the coaches, the cheerleaders, etc. We did meet Eddie DeBartolo once... However, the band was located on the field level at the 50 yard line. We played before the game and for two minutes at a time during TV timeouts. And we parked under the stadium. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I thought it was a good game, actually. Exciting, high-flying offensive efforts? Nope, but I was wondering who was going to win until the end of the game. Better than most... (XXV still the best). I don't watch half-time shows unless I'm at the game. Half-time is for food. Except I did watch Sir Paul last year. But then again, it was Sir Paul... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Sweet Willie_ Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I enjoyed the game. I was okay with the halftime show. I missed bits and pieces related to kitchen runs for sloppy joes, chips, beers, etc. Peace. --SW spreadluv Fanboy? Why, yes! Nordstrand Pickups and Guitars. Messiaen knew how to parlay the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 No Superbowl for me this year, I'm afraid. And I'm from Seattle! Double robbery! I did enjoy the hell out of McCartney last year. What a great show, and it sounded brilliant. What I really want to see is a Tennessee Superbowl, with Sam Brown. Or maybe Al Green. Now THAT's a show, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpelstiltskin. Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Originally posted by plastic_chancellor: Speaking of the stage, I personally thought it was pretty cool. It was a very clever idea to use the logo.i liked the stage, too, but U2 already came up with the idea during the elevation tour, using a heart-shaped cutout. bono worked it a lot better than jagger. robb. because i like people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxofunk Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Sports Illustrated Gallery 8 pics, no bass player close-ups. - Matt W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy from Motown Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I have to agree the stones were sloppy as heck. They had amps and plenty of monitors, so they should of been able to hear themselves. It's hard to go from zero to 100 mph in three songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbroni Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 All Superbowl halftime shows are pre-recorded. This is done so bands don't accidently play too long and eat up precious advertising time. Sorry to disappoint, it was taped. They mix the band live over the top, in varying degrees. Usually the only real part of these kind of performances is the vocals. In this case, I believe the live sound of the guitars was mixed with the bed tracks as well. The Bass and Drums were most likely not live. Keith was lost the whole time and I think it had to do with monitors and trying to be in sync with the taped tracks. From what I gather the band has been playing very well during their recent tours, so I don't think its like they suck or anything. Just major tech difficulties of doing a Live show in a non live situation. Together all sing their different songs in union - the Uni-verse. My Current Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Jim, I really, really doubt that they were playing to a tape. It would have sounded completely different. There was a countdown timer on the stage...I noticed it during Satisfaction....it said 2:30 when I noticed it....and Mick kept the song going exactly that long. I think they were chosen partly because of their many decades of performing experience. The performance problems mostly seemed to stem from not being able to hear the monitors in my estimation. I really don't think it was the band's fault, I would blame the sound company...who of course were working under the highest amount of pressure imaginable. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wade_g Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 IMHO, the best Super Bowl halftime show was in 2002. The band was U2, and it was the first SB since 9/11. They had these two huge black pieces of canvas that reached the dome's rafters behind the stage. They used the canvas' as projector screens to list all the names of those who died on 9/11. Then, towards the end of "Streets Have No Name", when the names were finished, they dropped the canvas' and it looked liked the towers falling. Very moving. ..... As I read over what I just wrote, the idea seems like they could've been capitalizing on tragedy. But it didn't seem like it at the time. I have always enjoyed U2's music, and it was an emotional year. But I still think it was the best halftime show. There is a difference between Belief and Truth. Constantly searching for Truth makes your Beliefs seem believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I can't figure out why I've never warmed up to U2 as a band. I have a lot of respect for Bono's work outside of music. www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 wade_g, I agree. It was very moving. way2fat, buy U2's War. It is hard not to like that album, in my opinion. It has some fantastic moments, and has that "raw, I'm going to put everything into this microphone/guitar/amplifier/drumstick" feeling to it that so few bands manage to maintain after they have some success (U2, Santana, Pearl Jam, etc.). Bono is one of the smarter celebrities around; agree or disagree with him, he's smart enough to stay apolitical enough and deals with everyone with respect instead of leaning super-left or super-right. Smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbroni Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Originally posted by jeremy c: Jim, I really, really doubt that they were playing to a tape. It would have sounded completely different. There was a countdown timer on the stage...I noticed it during Satisfaction....it said 2:30 when I noticed it....and Mick kept the song going exactly that long. I think they were chosen partly because of their many decades of performing experience. The performance problems mostly seemed to stem from not being able to hear the monitors in my estimation. I really don't think it was the band's fault, I would blame the sound company...who of course were working under the highest amount of pressure imaginable. You could be right. Its just the time = boatloads of money and typically the producers aren't willing to risk a unruly variable such as a Rock n Roll band. The performance seemed real, but so did Pauls. You do have a point about the sound, it seems like it would have been better if it were Pre-recorded. Who knows, there's so many possible snafus that could have occured behind the scenes, that one really never knows unless you were there. Together all sing their different songs in union - the Uni-verse. My Current Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I once saw Tony Bennett on TV, singing in a nationally covered parade. It was obvious that he couldn't hear himself or the other musicians. You could tell they were really struggling to keep with him. And he was off-key. (He still carried on like, well, a pro.) I don't have any of his albums because he's not my cuppa, but I'm very sure he knows how to do his job as well as anyone on the planet. It's tempting to think, "These are major networks, booking world-class acts, with state-of-the-art sound reinforcement, and enormous budgets. So if it sounds sloppy, it's the artist who is sloppy." It ain't always so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Am I the only person that hasn't liked a halftime show in years? I must be one of the few people on earth that will openly admit that I'm not a fan of the Rolling Stones by any stretch of the imagination. I have great respect for their achievements and legacy but I've never liked their music and the halftime show was no exception (blame poor production if you want). Somebody tried to tell me at the Super Bowl party I went to that the reason that the sound sucked and there wasn't a "current relevant group" (as Jeremy put it) was because MTV is no longer allowed to do the production. I told him that that was a steaming pile. There are plenty of production companies and perfectly capable engineers and whatnot that don't work for MTV in the world to pull something like that off successfully. I would like to know, though, why those capable people weren't hired or why the people running it couldn't get better sound. I understand that this was an extremely stressful situation but I also understand that these people run sound for huge touring groups and headline acts around the country (and possibly the world) as a profession. This is what they do for a living. Why wasn't it up to par with their other work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 This morning's paper had an article saying that Mick was upset that the tv network muted his mike for one word in Satisfaction and one word in the 2nd song. He may have been "upset" but I doubt that he was surprised. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Capasso Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I thought it was OK. I guess I don't expect much from the sound at these things. I have no illusions about the Stones as music virtuosos, but enjoy (and play) a fair amount of their music. While I have never seen them, I heard that they play well and sound good in concert. I agree that doing complete songs made it much better. I have never been happy with TV-bassist coverage. If the bassist is also the singer, the focus is on his face to the exclusion of the instrument. I can see the point of having an American band. Didn't we have Bon Jovi recently? Tom www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2fat Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 davio - I'm kinda with you, I think the best of the Stones is as good as rock gets, but there isn't that much of it. The first album I ever bought was Aftermath when I was about 11. I would never camp overnight to get tickets like I did with The Who. I never bought that "World's Greatest Rock Band" crap. To me they weren't even in the top five in England. IMO the only good halftime show happens at The Bayou Classic, the rest are for going to get a beer. www.ethertonswitch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxofunk Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Originally posted by Tom Capasso: I agree that doing complete songs made it much better... Tom Absolutely. There were several factors that made Stevie's pre-game performance almost unbearable, one of which was the disection of great songs to make a 5 minute medley. - Matt W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Speaking of Stevie...did anybody else see the segment on Leno two nights ago where Mo Rocca tried getting Stevie to pass a football to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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